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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread
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harvrdguy
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27. May 2009 @ 16:31 |
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LOL
You better not endanger those flavorful honey-sweetened cups of coffee!!!
Hey if you're playin - harvardguy - join in. I'm jumpin on right now!
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27. May 2009 @ 16:49 |
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But bees are the nice ones :) Guarantee you'll never be stung by one unless you scare it or piss it off :p
And hmm, I got L4D at release but got kinda bored of it, should I try get back into it? :)
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27. May 2009 @ 17:28 |
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Agreed, and bees aren't vicious. Wasps are.
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27. May 2009 @ 17:37 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Agreed, and bees aren't vicious. Wasps are.
Well...they are to me! I think they can sense hostility LOL! Yellow jackets especially.
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28. May 2009 @ 12:05 |
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Where did this suddenly appear from? I want one. 4GB of memory to near-completely resolve nvidia's memory management issues, and GTX285 SLI performance, the only Dual pair able to take on 4870X2 Quad Crossfire and beat it in more than just one or two games.
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28. May 2009 @ 12:18 |
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Holy crap... I'm almost scared thinking about the price-point :P
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28. May 2009 @ 12:19 |
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Finally an Nvidia card to beat the 4870X2, too bad it's limited production and going to cost a small fortune.
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28. May 2009 @ 12:30 |
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Not even a small fortune I don't expect.
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28. May 2009 @ 12:57 |
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the 295 beats the x2.....
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28. May 2009 @ 13:05 |
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I want one :-)
Although buying one would make a MASSIVE dent in my savings for a car.
Finally got portal. Such an awesome game although I (think) I've nearly finished it in one sitting.
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28. May 2009 @ 13:53 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
the 295 beats the x2.....
We've discussed that before...
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28. May 2009 @ 17:14 |
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Originally posted by keith1993:
I want one :-)
Although buying one would make a MASSIVE dent in my savings for a car.
Finally got portal. Such an awesome game although I (think) I've nearly finished it in one sitting.
Portal is awesome except of it's lack of difficulty and length. If/when portal 2 comes out I hope it's longer and harder then the first.
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29. May 2009 @ 01:29 |
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Here's Sam:
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Agreed, and bees aren't vicious. Wasps are.
And here's Kevin: Quote:
Well...they are to me! I think they can sense hostility LOL! Yellow jackets especially.
Kevin - don't mean to interrupt your tirade, lol, but Yellow Jackets are Wasps!!! (as in, they aren't bees!!!) Hahaha.
And back to Left 4 Dead:
Originally posted by shokz:
And hmm, I got L4D at release but got kinda bored of it, should I try get back into it? :)
Well, it's addictive, and you're a certified After Dawn Addict! So I don't know. How much extra time do you have in your week, lol.
Shokz, do you have a microphone? If not, maybe that is why you didn't get into it more.
I couldn't sleep yesterday, woke right up at 4:00 am. I was having L4D dreams like Kevin. (Or is that LSD dreams like Kevin? Hey Omega, is there something we should know about your choice of poison?) Seriously, I was dreaming about Uzis, getting ready for Gaming Day Wednesday! So I finally gave up sleeping any more, got up, and after coffee and breakfast, was on for fifteen hours straight, with a couple of food breaks, from 5:00 am to 8:00 pm. Jeff joined me the last two hours.
Shokz, I would say to you, "Yeah get back into it and see why it didn't work out the first time." Perhaps it's not your cup of tea, like Hidden is not mine, or maybe you didn't give it a fair try. You might also want to check out the Developer's commentary under Extras. Maybe knowing more about how the game was developed - more about the intricacies of the experience you are having - might add to your enjoyment. It did to mine.
There is a lot to the game. Earlier in the day, when we jumped off the roof onto the train tracks, I said "I think there's a tank gonna show up soon" because that tank had wiped out last week's team 3 times in a row. The other guy with a mic says "You're right, he's coming." (All these guys can tell there's a tank coming - way before the big vibrations. They hear some kind of noise, or a change in the music, that I am not picking up yet. We were in a building and a guy says, I'll go get the tank started and see if I can molotov him. I said, "What tank?" He said, "I hear the growling." Well f**k me! I don't hear any damn growling! In fact, I'm the last to know - usually not until the big ugly sonovabitch is beating the crap out of me, haha. One time, a little low on health, per Jeff's instructions, I charged up the ladder, sprayed just a bit, heard Jeff say to keep going, ran into the hospital grabbing a quick health pack from the ambulance on the way, and did a split-second check for a health pack in the little side room, to turn around and find myself face to face with a tank - there wasn't even time to get one round off - and he got Jeff too! Where the f*** did the overgrown sneaky bastard come from? How often does the Director pull THAT sh*t!)
Originally posted by Rich bi*ching about not being told about the weapons:
So anyway, I see the tank way over there, on a car, and I'm on top of one of the first rail cars spraying with minimal effect from about 100 yards away with the little Uzi (definitely not a long-distance weapon although I discovered it IS better than pistols at a distance - when Jeff and I were defending above the gas station, I was trying to take out a smoker across on the roof, and the pistol shots weren't doing it - but switching to uzi he quickly exploded.) So the other guy with a mic says, "harvardguy, why don't you have a level two weapon" - something Sam would have said. I said, "they're up ahead - we have to get past this tank." He said "No they were on a table behind us, I have one, and move_your_butt has one." (Somehow we ended up killing that tank anyway, but I could have done a lot more long-distance damage with the M16 before he ended up getting scary close and pinning a team member. That's why mics are great, and it would have been a smart team tactic for him to have mic'd out "level two weapons" I don't know if that table is stocked each round, but I'm gonna be looking for it next time!)
So, as I said, Estuansis and I played on Advanced yesterday from about 6:00 pm until just after 8:00 pm when we both hung it up. Just the two of us and bots.
We tried three defenses that were new to Estuansis. We defended the second story office above the blown-up gas station in No Mercy - it was very effective. In fact, the first time through it was stocked with weapons, molotovs, and pipe bombs. And we tried two other new defenses that Jeff also had not known about.
One guy way earlier in the morning had asked the team, "Do you guys want to defend field?" We were at the airport. Field?
So I showed Jeff. He was skeptical. He said, "This rope area works?" I said "Yeah, they don't come from behind the rope." He said, "Well, there's a bunch of them behind the rope right now." I laughed. "Yeah, but they don't spawn back there. Working dual pistols, we can take down most of the horde and save our M16 bullets for the tank, in case we don't have enough time to get back for ammo and/or to grab the auto shotgun."
That rope defense was awesome - we both boarded the escape plane and flew out feeling pretty good about that. The bots didn't make it. LOL Then we played the airport closet defense. It would have worked okay with two real teammates. We got as far as the second tank, but the bots were dead and I think we got smokered.
The guy last week who showed me airport closet, was enthusiastic also about the airplane defense - the broken plane near the closet. I actually had jumped up on it before and I had wondered about using it for defense. Like everybody, I like being up high as long as there's no tank beaning me with a luggage cart. He said it's a good defense. He likes to get way up on the wing, but not to the top - he said the smokers get you if you're all the way up.
Originally posted by Rich on women players:
By the way, I had two women team-mates yesterday at various times. Both had mics. It was fun and different. One yelled at me, "Hey college dude get over here" as they started to flood one area and were going to molotov where I was standing. Having played that spot only once before I was ready for the horde to come pouring through the big pipe above me. Another gal later on, a pretty good player named Juice, who was appropriately playing Zoey, started calling me "harvard shmuck." I laughed. She was having fun giving me sh*t fairly regularly - "oh HE goes to harvard." Then it turned ugly. She yelled "ahead to the left" so I sprayed and disturbed the witch. She got all on my case "What did you do that for?" I said, "I thought you saw a hunter or something." She said, "I said WITCH." For the rest of the session: "Oh, a witch looks like a hunter?" If it was real life I woulda shot her! Just kidding! I think it's so cool when Zoey really is a girl - even if she's a b*tch!! Fighting zombies and tanks would get anybody on the rag! (Is that a sexist thing to say - probably, lol.) Love 'em or hate 'em, it's fun to have them around, and Zoey REALLY should be a girl! Hahaha. I'm so glad that Valve is so clever - where's the women in COD4?
Those finales are tense - they don't allow for mistakes at critical moments. One good team player made the mistake of trying to heal me as the ramp was dropping - I had virtually no life left after surviving a tank. That 5 seconds of frozen time cost both of us our lives - it is possible I could have hobbled on board and made it - I wasn't all the way to black and white.
Originally posted by Rich observing that pain pills can be better than health packs:
Good reason, also, to always keep some pain pills around. I'm beginning to see now that I had it backwards: health packs should be used up, but pain pills should be saved for times of great urgency! I moved health to f, and pain pills to my easy-to-locate c key, since "Witch!" is now on 5 and "Tank!" on 4. I had moved health to H, and pain to P, but when it gets dark I don't yet have a backlit keyboard. But the warning binds don't really make sense, except for kidding around in a safe room, and sam has the greatest "owwww" that he hasn't yet given me, for that. I use the mic, so really I should take all those sam morris binds off and go back to health on 4 and pain pills on 5 now that I think about it, lol - especially since I had gone to all the trouble, with about 30 tiny pieces of scotch tape, of roughing up the 4 key so I could find health in the dark! Sam, I have a great bind for you that's almost as funny as your "owww" - I think I mentioned it in an earlier post. I believe it's the sound of screaming when you're disabled and you get molotoved - Zoey does it the best! Remind me to do it in a safe house and you can copy and paste from the command console - it's on my L key 'cause that's where Zoey had it!
The attempt to heal me was quite a generous gesture on his/her part, Windiver I think was the player name, and he had proved what a good team player he was throughout the campaign. He was trying to help out, of course, but it was a dangerous tactical mistake at that particular moment. Another good player who also didn't quite make the ramp on an earlier campaign made a possible tactical mistake through a bad molotov toss at the end. In this scenario, he had thrown the molotov to help with the final horde, as he typed out during the credits, with the game dedicated TO HIS MEMORY, but I proposed that next time maybe better to light up the area closer to the ammo and more distant from the ramp. As he explained, he said the flames being so close had concealed a hunter, who grabbed him right at the last instant as the rest of us were charging into the middle of the plane.
When we took off and saw IN MEMORY OF, and realized that we had lost a buddy, it was a letdown. When you go through hell together, it's disappointing when all players don't escape, whereas it's exhilarating when everybody DOES make it out.
So, Shokz. Get in the game! Hahaha!
Sam Morris - you're gonna swap out your 4870x2s and pick up one or two of those GREEN dual 285's, with 4 gigs per card??!! Down below the link you posted, I noticed that guys were commenting "But will it run crysis ultra high? One guy posted, "Yes of course. No don't be silly" - all in the same post, lol. I bet we're looking at $700 a card! Still, crysis at ultra high???!!
And Sam, did you really say that dual 285s at $750 already beat quad crossfire - at $650-900 - on a bunch of games? (I've seen 4870x2s go for as little as $325 each on ebay.) Shaff said the 295 beats the 4870x2, but you said "Shaff, we have already discussed that."
What did you mean - I forgot the discussion you guys had - and I never know when shaff is just blowing a fluffy shisha smoke ring, lol. And finally, does quad sli work - two of the new monster cards?
Good luck saving for your car, Keith. From what you and Red_Maw said about the game, maybe I'll have to play the full Portal. I've heard a lot about it, and I played a little demo a year or two ago that I think Steam let me download. The song is - well it's hard to explain. The song is, in some way, unnerving. It's kind of nice, in a way, and kind of sad, in a way, and kind of twisted, in a way. It gets under your skin - I absolutely can't explain it. The game is so original - unlike anything ever done - well not exactly since it was taken from the portals in the first Half Life. But very unique. I wouldn't recommend it for Kevin - then he'd be having portal dreams on top of the lsd, and who knows where that would lead. :P
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29. May 2009 @ 03:19 |
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Originally posted by harvrdguy:
I was having L4D dreams like Kevin. (Or is that LSD dreams like Kevin? Hey Omega, is there something we should know about your choice of poison?)
LOL! No no. Just alcohol here :D Although every once in a while, Mary Jane is good. I dont like it as much as I once did though. Probably my own fault.
On another note, im almost ready guys. Ive had a mic for quite some time, it comes in handy with both windows 7, and Dragon naturally speaking, (for voice recognition programs). And my skills have advanced greatly. Im not sure if I already posted it, but I discovered a way to defeat a horde single-handedly(on expert no less)! It doesnt seem to be full proof yet, but it does work quite nicely. Next Wednesday...i'll be ready rich. Im playing on the 50" plasma this weekend :D <-----VERY big smile! Though it will be of a lesser GPU. I dont expect any problems. The 8600GT is a solid runner. It even ran GTA IV. A little on the rough side, but it tried pretty hard :)
EDIT - I stand corrected! Yellow-Jackets are wasps :) touche!
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Haha Rich it was fun. If I'd realized it was Wednesday I'd have been on earlier in the day. By the time I saw your post I thought crap I might as well show up for a few matches :P
Man my ping was really suffering that night. It was either Rich with like a 55 and me with a 150 or me with a 50-60 and Rich with a 120. Apparently his internet connection is a lot more tolerant of lag. I was getting long pauses for of like 10 seconds very frequently until we found a better server. It was never that bad before even playing with Sam in the UK!
A 64 player match of Battlefield 2 sees me with a 40-75 ping and perfect accuracy at long range even.
Haha my favorite Battlefield 2 map is Dragon Valley. Ocean on the north end with high mountains at the coast opening into a huge river valley. The Americans always start controlling an aircraft carrier and a base on the shore at the foot of the mountains. The Chinese start controlling everything else, including the mountains!
It looks like this:
See how there are mountains dividing the coast and the valley? They are forested and there are roads snaking through the woods that the Americans use to move their armor into the valley. Steep cliffs over the base on the coast. Almost immediately they have tanks moving into the mountains.
Haha I start in the mountains with a silenced rifle and a ghillie suit. You have some time to get in place before the American players can make it to vehicles and up the mountain road to attack your control points. There's forest and grassy fields all over the top of the mountains and surrounding the roads with cliffs overlooking the American base. And here I am sneaking through the woods in prone and dashing across the roads when it's clear. Jeeps and tanks come rumbling along the road and I barely escape discovery by diving into the trees and going prone. Helicopters and jets from the carrier buzz overhead as they cross the peaks into the valley below. Diving into the grass and remaining perfectly still as they pass overhead, hoping they don't turn around and make a pass at you. Picking your way down the cliffs a bit into a forested position with a perfect view of the base. Crawling in and out of cover to keep unexposed on the steep mountain face. Lining up that shot and popping a guy as he gets into a jeep. TENSE AS HELL!
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Interesting note on the memory inefficiency of Nvidia cards. Running the techpowerup Call of Duty 2 timedemo 1680 x 1050 maxed w/ 8xMSAA sees me with an average of 75FPS on the 9800GTX. But just turning it to 16xMSAA drops the average to 45FPS. Like it's starting to run out of memory! I've noticed this with quite a few games so far. Handles everything fine maxed, but turn the AA too far and the FPS dives. My 4870s, even in single mode, barely take a 5FPS hit by turning it from 8x to 16x.
Nvidia has always had cheap/weird AA though. 16x in the control panel is more akin to real 8x on an ATi. And 16xQ is more akin to real 16x on an ATi. To get full 16xAA you actually need to set it to 16xQ or you might as well use 8xQ because it still looks better than regular 16x!
All the more reason I went ATi. Quality antialiasing is paramount especially in highly detailed games. CoD4 and Source games with AA look markedly cleaner and crisper on the ATi cards.
It's kinda like this:
Nvidia - ATi
2x = 2x
4x = 4x
8x = ~6x
8xQ = 8x
16x = ~8x
16xQ = 16x
These are from my own personal experience. But from what I've seen and done you need to turn Nvidia's AA to Quality MultiSampling just to match the stock AA for ATi. And this isn't even taking into account all the custom AA modes over 16x ATi cards can use.
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man rich when ever i ask you to play u dont respond :(
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You can hear the tank breathing before you encounter it and the music starts playing - listen out for it, especially if you're expecting one.
On one occasion in the Dead Air crane level when you go through the office building, the tank was in one of the little cupboards to the right. We walked past it, all of a sudden, tank music starts, door is blown off its hinges, and we run to evade the tank.
The location of the level 2 weapons changes each time, but there are only so many particular locations where they can be. Know where they all are, and it's hard to miss them.
The upper floor building on the No Mercy - Gas Station is familiar to us, we stopped using it for versus due to the smoker threat and the number of attack angles. We now use the corner by the lift, underneath the roof of the building you later clamber across. There are only two attack angles, and no matter how many boomers come your way you can keep fighting the zombies off almost indefinitely.
The rope is another tactic we tried for Dead Air. Ultimately we don't have a foolproof solution for that section as they don't often spawn behind the rope but unless you keep an eye out they can sneak round there from the left hand side of the map where the baggage carts are. The other areas we have tried are the corner right over the other side, and on the white plane (two on one wing, one on the top of the fuselage, one on the tail)
NEVER heal once the finale vehicle has arrived - Just GET THERE. Helicopter in No Mercy, Boat in Death Toll, Plane ramp dropping in Dead Air, APC arriving in Blood Harvest. Odds are good, even if one dies, the others will escape.
The C key by default is your voice chat link Rich, might want to rebind that.
Vocalize Playerdeath is the funniest with Zoey, the scream is painful to listen to. I have that bound to 6 on my keyboard. As I always use a backlit keyboard it's no issue finding buttons, but in any case, the light from the screen is sufficient to see the keys regardless.
In general I will avoid using any form of health until my move speed is sufficiently impaired, at which point I will usually try and find a suitable spot to stop and heal, if I don't find one, I will probably go down, or eat pills. If I do go down, same philosophy, heal if time, if not, pills. By going into black and white then healing, then going down and then eating pills you can extend your life twofold.
Ultimately, I doubt I'll switch the 4870X2s for the MARS295. As awesome as the card is, it will cost more than I will get for selling the X2s, especially since they've been price dropped 30% recently, and come July/August there will be a new generation of cards which will do the same job as the MARS without the absurd price tag, rare status, and with mainstream hardware support.
Crysis at Very High is playable at 2560 with two GTX285s, at least for the island section. I have my doubts about the second half of the game, and I don't think they'll manage Warhead, but it'd be getting there. Realistically, we want AA as well though, so we haven't truly cracked Crysis yet. I think a Triple or Quad SLi combination of the 2009 generation nvidia cards will be very close to achieving even that lofty goal, perhaps not Warhead with AA, we'll see. I don't see ATI hardware achieving it until the 2010 generation with Quad CF, as the scaling for Crysis is much worse.
The GTX285 SLI pair will beat two 4870X2s in some titles. More than not, the 4870s will win the day, but you must surely be aware that there are several games out there that only really run properly at all on nvidia graphics. Ironically, two GTX285s in SLI is now actually the same price as 4870X2 Quad crossfire, £495.
My comment about the GTX295 was that in raw performance, the 295 beats the 4870X2 in most games, but due to nvidia's lacking memory optimisation, and the lower amount of memory on the GTX295, when you use max detail at 2560x1600, the 295 falls to pieces in several titles. We're not talking falls behind, we're talking completely unplayable, or crashing. Quad SLi works with 295s and provides substantial benefits in some games. It does not, however, work properly in Left 4 Dead. One 4870X2 will match Quad SLi in Left 4 Dead - Given that's the only demanding game I play more than 6 hours a week, I have no interest in Quad SLI. Not to mention, it also requires an i7, or a terrible nforce chipset.
I didn't find Portal too easy at all. Short, yes, but I do wonder how long a game like that can be before it starts to lose its five star appeal.
Dragon Naturally Speaking doesn't work that well for me, as I don't have a US accent, the nail in the coffin for every voice rec program ever made.
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Ultra-high AA performance was a selling point of the 4800 series. It is a new feature of the R700 series architecture.
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Dragon naturally speaking is highly adaptive. It even learns southern/texan/new york accents. Or so it claims. I dont doubt it, because you can teach the program to respond how ever you like. I understand what you mean though. English is darn near up and ready after install. After a couple of tests, within 10 minutes(with a good mic), your speaking a text document, surfing the web, etc. Haven't fooled with windows 7 that much yet. But its source responds almost identically. It wouldn't surprise if they ripped it off LOL!
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29. May 2009 @ 22:57 |
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Jeff - yeah really glad you jumped in on Left 4 Dead. It was great!
I cheated and played several Advanced hours yesterday - it's supposed to be just Wednesdays - after writing that long post, and after wanting to change my finger positions back to 4 and 5 for health and pills - which worked really well.
I got with a team that uses the top of the wing defense on the tipped over plane, for runway finale - and we all got out several times. I saw what you said about the plane, Sam, but these guys all get high up on the wing. One guy looks right, the other left, the other two lower right and left. They said that's the best defense by far, and you can do most of it with dual pistols! Smokers try to pull you down all the time but the team explodes the smoker before anybody gets pulled. Then on tank time, one guy whom I followed a couple times with my molotov, just in case, charges toward the tank spawn area - going up the stairs of the passenger ramp adjacent to that plane - and he runs out with molotov and lights the tank - his specialty. Very smooth and we did it with nobody disabled - so I picked up the Standing Tall achievement.
Originally posted by Jeff - the Tom Clancey certified sniper expert!:
Picking your way down the cliffs a bit into a forested position with a perfect view of the base. Crawling in and out of cover to keep unexposed on the steep mountain face. Lining up that shot and popping a guy as he gets into a jeep. TENSE AS HELL!
Wow, estuansis, your description of Dragon Valley makes me want to pull out my Battlefield 2. That map had impressed me a couple years ago as one of the most beautiful areas I had ever seen - how dare those Americans try to invade such a special place, haha. It sounds like you are one helluva sniper and a complete thorn in their sides - go grasshopper!
(I didn't know the snipers had ghillie suits and all - wow! BF2 for me is waiting for the new build - my 1 gig of system ram is holding me back - I get 5 second pauses on those maps.)
Kevin, now you defeat the horde single-handedly even on Expert? Oh, you found the nuclear bomb glitch. Yeah, works good. What the hell? Playing on a 50" plasma - great!! I presume 1920x1200 (or 1080) which is about what I'm playing it at on the Dell 30". Very nice! We did a little Expert also - barn finale - very tough! I discovered the laundry room defense inside the house - I think I like it better than top of barn for Expert! We had no problem with the horde, but our roof-top tricks for tank didn't pan out - needed more working on.
But laundry room - very effective! Remember that Sam for your next Expert achievement!!
Originally posted by shaff:
man rich when ever i ask you to play u dont respond :(
Bummer! I wanted to get on a team with you yesterday. Hopefully next Wednesday, man.
Shaff, sorry, I never got your messages. Shouldn't they pop up in-game? Yeah, late yesterday I tried to jump in with you and I opened the dialog box and found several invites that you had sent me, but I never got them. Nothing popped up in the game - how is it supposed to work?
The game had told me that you were on-line, earlier. Clue me in Shaff, Sam, Jeff. How do I keep that dialog box active to get those invites when I'm in a game? How were you able to get my attention on Wednesday, Jeff?
Originally posted by sam:
By going into black and white then healing, then going down and then eating pills you can extend your life twofold.
Sam I didn't quite follow that - yeah go into black and white then heal - okay. But going down, then pills. What do you mean?
Regarding the 295 - yeah now I remember - the memory limitation. The most exciting thing you said was something about new ati hardware coming in July/Aug timeframe! Great!
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English is darn near up and ready after install.
Yeah, but not the Queen's English - so doesn't work for Sam, lol!
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Originally posted by harvrdguy:
Kevin, now you defeat the horde single-handedly even on Expert? Oh, you found the nuclear bomb glitch. Yeah, works good. What the hell? Playing on a 50" plasma - great!! I presume 1920x1200 (or 1080) which is about what I'm playing it at on the Dell 30". Very nice!
Rich
Actually, What I mean by that, is beating them off with the gun handle. Hmmm, LOL, perhaps I should reword that. Beating them with the butt of the gun, will push them away enough, for your teammates to defeat them. I just hold the button down(even on expert), and they usually only get a shot or two in. Ive survived at least 20-30 zombies with this tactic, while only suffering a 13 health points loss! While it doesn't seem 100% full proof, it is close.
Unfortunately, I haven't got to play with the 50" plasma yet :( The darn family screwed with my plans LOL! Nah, my brother came up from town(200miles away), I dont see him very often. And I wont get a chance during the week. So now i'll have to wait on that one til next weekend. Im betting its resolution is that of a 16:9 or 1920 x 1080. Typical blu-ray resolution. Which im sure will make my monitor look like a kids toy LOL!!!
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Originally posted by Shokz:
http://kotaku.com/5274389/left-4-dead-2-features-melee-deeper-coop
Just thought i'd interject with this, in case you haven't seen already :)
Microsoft gave an amazing E3 Keynote, by the way (curse them).
Well...thats friggin awesome!!! I haven't even beat the first one, and now im gonna be itching for the second one :D
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They also put this article up a little after my last post.
Is it just me that only likes the guy on the right? :P Maybe cos he resembles the scout from Team Fortress 2 :)
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Originally posted by Shokz:
Is it just me that only likes the guy on the right? :P Maybe cos he resembles the scout from Team Fortress 2 :)
Maybe because he looks like one of your buddies. I said the same thing to Miles (Left 4 Dead animator) when he showed me the new group of survivors about a month ago. (Remember when I had to keep the Big Secret - I sent an email to Sam and told him not to tell Shaff, hahaha.)
Hey, speaking of Shaff - (just kidding by the way, bud) - Jeff, how do I get Shaff's invites when I'm in a game? Like how did I get your invite last week? Wednesday is coming up fast! (By the way - did some more cheating and got on again Saturday night, showing up at Miles' little party with only 3 hours sleep, duhh - I'll show you guys what real addiction is, lol.) Guess what - #1. airplane wing absolutely doesn't work with two bots, and #2 hill is better if the team is not used to holding a position like airplane wing.
And finally, screw Rock - back deck or inside upstairs rules!
But if everybody wants to do Rock anyway (Sam's in charge for example) but you find that you alone are going to have to hold out down below 'cause you forgot how to get up on the goddamn thing, another half hour of practice taught me exactly what to do to climb the Rock: Listen up! (I died of course.)
A. not only do you have to jump about 3 feet ahead of time (just like melee works at a distance) but B. starting all the way to the right, run and keep your cursor on the highest point of the rock that you can see - which is in the back - which will move you slightly to the left and keep you out of the corner - the little incline you jump on is not in the corner.
I was at Miles' house yesterday - his daughter's 3 year old birthday "Princess Party" hahahaha. They had a professional Snow White there who looked like she stepped out of the streets of Disneyland - pretty talented artist too drawing little butterflies and other little animals on Josette and all her little buddies.
In the midst of all this exciting action, lol (not exactly, but Snow was HOT) Miles grabbed me and we went into his room and he cranked up the big Dell. He showed me Nick - the guy to the left on Shokz' link - the model looks really good. I said "Is that the photo still, or the model?" It was the model. He showed me a new Nick tweak - slightly different from what is being presented at E3 - a little reduction of cheek bones, etc., to more closely match the actual live person they used.
THEN he sat me back, put the headphones on me, and hit me up with the new trailer WOW!!!!! Here it is in High Def at 52mb if you can get it to stream, unlike me - Miles has it on his hard drive. One of the featured zombies looks like Angelina Jolie - except for the blood smeared all over her mouth - and then she gets her head blown off - lol. I said to Miles - "wow, she's really pretty!" He laughed - "Well, that's our movie department!"
For Kevin, who just learned to RULE WITH MELEE ATTACK (you're right, dude, you can almost defend better sometimes with melee than with bullets - and by the way - take note that melee works from about 4 feet away which I think actually is a game flaw - but that's how it works - get them before they can claw you - which also they can do from about 4 feet out) notice that just for you there is a chainsaw you can fire up, an axe, a baseball bat, and a frying pan, which Nick handles pretty nicely at the end of the video.
You're looking at Nick (gambler in the white suit) the Coach, the girl, Rochelle I think, and the Mechanic - the guy Shokz likes. Rochelle looks interesting in the trailer and you can see her fun baseball-bat-to-ya-mofo-head personality. Miles is modeling her too, and as she rotates, the physics engine swings her front locks from side to side in an attractive way. He said it wasn't quite right, but I told him it looked perfect to me! That reminded me of Louis. I asked him if Louis' red tie moves from side to side which I have always wondered about but haven't had time to notice with horde attacks from front and back at the same time! He said "yes it does." (By the way, speaking about hordes, other than the finales, chapter 4 in Toll Road, where you start out on top in the sniping loft, has to be the hardest level in the entire game. Next time I'm up on top lookin out, team and me are gonna have are-you-sure-you're-ready-for-this-shit chat, lol.)
I asked Miles why New Orleans - he said they wanted to do South. They've done Europe with Half Life 2, and Philadelphia with L4D. I said, "Well, it sounds like Zoey has a New York accent to me - like that part about 'Hey molotovs ova heeuh." He said, "Well, maybe she was just trying to say that kind of funny - like as you were sayin 'Get your hotdogs ova heeuh' because she really doesn't sound like that in the rest of her dialog." I guess he's right.
So, more exciting stuff to come. We've got a six month wait. Plenty of time for you, Shokz to get back into the game, and for you Kevin, to start getting online with all that amazing melee talent, lol.
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Im sure there are a few people who will appreciate this :D No offense rich, NONE WHAT SO EVER LOL! I have a lot of respect for you :D This video is STRAIGHT to the point
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