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17. August 2009 @ 14:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
I don't know whether you were serious or not about the image
I'm very rarely serious so believe it or not I won't be taking legal action (they should really make it easier to gauge emphasis and so on over text I don't want to re-write the English language just tweak it to include this feature).

Originally posted by sammorris:
a more powerful CPU would be advisable.

I'll buy one when I pop out to the shops for some milk (what is it with milk today?) (I'm not serious!!!!!!!!!!).

EDIT: That's how your post read by the way. Its not meant as vindictive or anything like it looked when I just read this



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17. August 2009 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah it can be difficult to convey emotion over text. I usually resort to smilies for that purpose :P



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17. August 2009 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Would there be any advantage in installing Crysis to a Seagate Barracuda ST380011A 7200RPM IDE drive rather then my SATA that also contains Windows?

I was just pondering because you said about the lag from your drive.



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Nah, unless the S-ATA one is really fragmented, the IDE will work out slower.



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All of my photos and pictures that mean anything to me have an attribution non-commercial creative commons license ;)

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17. August 2009 @ 20:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did anybody spot any of the Thermalright stuff at Computex? WANT.
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationaleve...SCF9083-big.jpg
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationaleve...SCF9074-big.jpg
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationaleve...SCF9069-big.jpg

The cases are quite nice, but I'd be happier if you could get the coolers separately. The purple case's CPU cooler looks like it could be seriously powerful.



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18. August 2009 @ 00:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice pics :) VERY serious potential LOL!



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18. August 2009 @ 01:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@keith1993

Your system should run Crysis just fine. The pauses Sam has are due to his vast resolution and system-intensive need for the best graphics available. Your system should run it smoothly at high settings maybe some of the hacked very high settings too. Sam is right though that a faster CPU will help. But it wont make a large difference to your average framerates.

Crysis is much more GPU bound with lower-end hardware setups and will only show a prohibitive CPU ceiling with very fast single cards or multi card setups. Your HD4850 is a mid range card and wont be held back too badly by your 6000+.



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18. August 2009 @ 06:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What is it with case manufactures putting PSU's in increasingly weird places?

Omega stop stealing my new sig thunder...



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Once again, the pauses have nothing to do with the resolution, they are to do with the level of detail set (all enthusiast) - drop back to high and that is much reduced. Crysis isn't too CPU bound, but Warhead is absolutely critical on CPU performance.



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18. August 2009 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by keith1993:

Omega stop stealing my new sig thunder...

LOL! Im sorry! The gold look was beginning to look Dull. I still haven't quite found that sig that will...STICK. :)



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18. August 2009 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just completed Portal again that makes it the first game I've ever completed twice!!!



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Not too hard to do, it's quite short (but awesome)



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19. August 2009 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah well normally I lose focus about 3/4 of the way through a game and move onto something else but Portal kept my attention (that and the way you can complete it in one sitting).

I will now disappear for several days while I play Crysis.

EDIT: well I would if I wasn't plagued by stability issue's GAHHHH.

Black screen audio makes that REALLY annoying noise then cuts out and I have to reboot. possible cause? I've got a few ideas myself but wanted to see what you guys thought.



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PSU or motherboard fault. That was the reason my Maximus II Formula went back.



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I was thinking PSU but am now poor. I lose. It makes sense because I'm seeing some out of place voltages in Everest:
CPU Core 1.45 V
+3.3 V 3.39 V
+5 V 4.63 V
+12 V 12.32 V
+3.3 V Standby 3.39 V
VBAT Battery 3.33 V

The AMD site reckons the CPU voltage should be 1.10-1.40V and It's set to auto in BIOS. So that isn't great.



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Quote:
+5 V 4.63 V
Alarm bells are ringing.



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20. August 2009 @ 14:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1.45v isn't dangerous on CPU. I'm currently using 1.45v on my CPU problem free.

Everything else looks okay-ish but the 5v worries me. A new PSU would be in order right quick. Cheap PSUs can completely destroy your PC right down to the case. I've seen them catch fire.



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Depends what CPU, I wouldn't recommend it for one of the low voltage 1.05V chips. A volt-hungry Phenom won't be so bad though.



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20. August 2009 @ 16:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One day, electrical efficiency will appeal to me. Until then, my PhenomII can gobble it up with me grinning. Im very content with my wicked fast cpu :)



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i could care less about CPU power draw aswell. As an overclocker, who gives a crap? :P



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I can see where efficiency is important. But for the homestead...

As a company, buying 100's or more towers/setups, I can see where sparing every watt could be necessary. Im unsure of the math involved, comparing a phenomII to an i7. What I mean is, would it cost me 50cents less a month, to run an i7 opposed to my phenom. LOL!!! In a business, that computes obviously to A LOT more.

Heck, even 2-4 dollars less a month is negligible in my mind.



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Really my PCs don't contribute a whole lot to our monthly power bill. We're just billed based on our family size and a projected power usage. We don't end up paying the difference so I can run pretty much any CPU I want right now. My Phenom II runs pretty cool and is respectably fast so as far as I'm concerned it's a good CPU.



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To be honest, since power usage scales exponentially with voltage increase, power usage is more of a big deal for enthusiasts than you might think. Start off with a low heat output and you can crank the volts up a lot further without having to resort to risky water cooling, or very risky (and expensive) phase change or dry ice. On top of that, the same exponential power effect does have a dramatic effect on the electricity bill. If I turn the overclock off on my Q9550, I save a penny for every hour my PC's at idle, almost 2p per hour it's at load. Might not seem much, but at 1 hour of each a day that's £11, and it gets used far more than that. Then consider this is a 90W chip, with only a 150mV overvolt. Imagine a 140W chip like the 965BE, or 150W like the i7 (technically it's 125W, the X58 chipset I believe uses 25W more than the P45)
Omega: Once again, i7 vs Phenom II is a rather weak debate, especially for business companies, as they won't be after gaming performance. i7 vs core 2 would be a dramatic increase in cost though.
Jeff: Unmetered power usage? Never seen that in this country. It's done like that for water, but I'm sure you can appreciate you don't really need to pay per unit for water anyway since it isn't 'produced' exactly.



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i7 from what i cant remember powers down cores on idle, so its idle should be lower.

as for servers, although the i7 cost more they get the work done in a much quicker time, thats its more efficient to go for i7 :)



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