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10. January 2009 @ 08:49 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Other sites - I've not managed to even find a review of the 4850e anywhere else so far... :S Where else have you been looking? (I don't want previews, I want retail reviews)
This is what I read though, the motherboard manufacturers could have made their oldest AM2 boards compatible with the Phenom IIs provide they had strong 95 Amp Vregs, but they chose not to in order to force people to buy new motherboards - more money for them. The C-DS3R series from Gigabyte is a nice means of having both DDR2 and DDR3 functionality, but until there are 4GB DDR3 modules available, they're limited to 4GB of memory. Not a huge issue, but some people like more.
The AM2+/AM3 dual memory support option illustrates another of AMD's pros, which is engineering cool stuff, without any real reason for doing it, other than showing superior R&D.
Omegaman: Very tempted to do it when I collect my SSD. Going to leave vista on my 7200rpm HDD, but probably going to partition the SSD into two halves for XP and 7. I think 30GB should just about cover both right?
Sam, You're absolutely right! Reviews for both the 4850e and the 5050e are scarce. I posted one of them a while back that was very well done by an individual in another forum. He went at it in a determined fashion to leave no stone unturned! I think he used every test program in the world, but it was an excellent test article and he made no attempt to sway anything. I liked his genuine, "What you sees, is what you Gets" attitude. Long, but very informative!
As far as the engineering cool stuff for no good reason, I think they had a very good reason judging by looking at all the options all this cool stuff now provides the consumer with, based on what they can afford, while still giving them a good sized slice of the pie! Intel, with i7 can't do that! You have to buy "The Unholy Trio", or nothing! Since you can only put an i7 in a MB with a new socket, you have to have all three of the Trio, or you have nothing. It leaves AMD in a very good marketing and Sales position, at just the right time! Well Done AMD!
The only thing they've done wrong lately, is commit Blasphemy! They actually had Phenon IIs for sale on time, in spite of a snafu with the US Customs! Since both Intel and AMD share the Patent for vaporware, that is blasphemy! :-)
Russ
EDIT: Just type "AMD 4850e reviews" into Google Search, and you will find lots of reviews!
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It's not really fair to keep dragging the i7 into this, at least Intel offer a product with that level of performance, as far as AMD's concerned, you don't even get the option. All of Intel's CPUs that compare with The Phenoms and Phenom IIs use the same socket too, and again, only the older boards require BIOS flashes. On top of this, the Core 2 Quads are more power efficient, and also cheaper. The Phenom II 940 is nearly £240 in the UK, the most expensive AMD CPU since the first AM2 Athlon X2s more than two years ago. £20 more earns you a Q9550 which will handily beat it. What's more, I am unsure if this will stick around, but OEM, a Q9450, the Phenom II 940's main rival can be had for £205, more than £30 less. Combine the fact that good motherboards for the Core 2 Quads can still be had for £65-£80, AMD 790 chipset boards start at a slightly higher price than that. Since both share DDR2 memory, that actually renders the Core 2 platform cheaper. Interesting, AMD have finally produced a good CPU, but they have priced it so high that they have still fallen behind on the value for money front. The complete opposite of before, AMD CPUs may have been crap back then, but at least they were good value!
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10. January 2009 @ 10:48 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It's not really fair to keep dragging the i7 into this, at least Intel offer a product with that level of performance, as far as AMD's concerned, you don't even get the option. All of Intel's CPUs that compare with The Phenoms and Phenom IIs use the same socket too, and again, only the older boards require BIOS flashes. On top of this, the Core 2 Quads are more power efficient, and also cheaper. The Phenom II 940 is nearly £240 in the UK, the most expensive AMD CPU since the first AM2 Athlon X2s more than two years ago. £20 more earns you a Q9550 which will handily beat it. What's more, I am unsure if this will stick around, but OEM, a Q9450, the Phenom II 940's main rival can be had for £205, more than £30 less. Combine the fact that good motherboards for the Core 2 Quads can still be had for £65-£80, AMD 790 chipset boards start at a slightly higher price than that. Since both share DDR2 memory, that actually renders the Core 2 platform cheaper. Interesting, AMD have finally produced a good CPU, but they have priced it so high that they have still fallen behind on the value for money front. The complete opposite of before, AMD CPUs may have been crap back then, but at least they were good value!
Sam,
I agree with you again, but almost all testing I've seen has included i7 in their tests. It's the only reason I feel compelled as everybody brings it up. The Yorkfields may be the cheaper platform, but there are lots of very happy AMD fans here who are starting to smile more and more.! The new Phenom II looks good, and AM3 is right around the corner. one of the reviews I posted took a Phenom II 940 to 3.8gHz on air on a Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H! Water should get you past 4.0GHz Wonder what tricks the Phenom II AM3 has up it's sleeve. Mid to mid-high looks like it going to get much more competitive in the not too distant future! I've heard some rumors! That's all I can say for now!
I can also buy a less expensive 790G motherboard and come out for around the same price, and not lose the important features of AM2+, but the MB to have for AM2+ is the Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H. Not because I'm a fan but because every site that has tested the 940 and 920 on it, says it's the best. Even PC Magazine who rarely boosts anything says so! They said "this is the board to have for 790X"! No one else is getting to 3.8GHz on air! Much more competitive with the Yorkfields than say 3.5-3.6GHz! So far I've seen reviews of 790Gs using Asus, MSI and BioStar, and the DS4H beats them all! Eventually I'll be smiling a lot too. I'm waiting for AM3, and HKMG low watt technology. I want to learn with the x2 7750, because I'll have all the features of the 790G, so I can learn pretty much everything I'll need to know So I'll be ready for that AM3!
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10. January 2009 @ 11:00 |
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Just passing thru to ask a final question re the GA-EP45-DS3. All is installed and working, the only thing amiss is that CPU-Z is showing the CPU to be 1600MHz with a Multiplier of 6.0, Bus Speed of 266MHz and a Rated FSB of 1066MHz.
Yet the BIOS (version F6 - p.s. i didn't see anything i need from newer BIOSes, the latest being F9) shows all to be correct as does XP's control panel.
Rebooting to double-check the BIOS but was after any insight - Russ you may well know what's going on if you wouldn't mind having a ponder.
Before i installed the relevant drivers from the supplied CD, CPU-Z was alternating between the above 1600MHz settings and the correct 2400MHz settings. I'm guessing there's some kind of speedstep rubbish that i need to turn off..
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Indeed, though the DS4H costs a significant £124. The EP45-UD3R, a board proven to get Core 2 Quads to 3.7 and beyond is only £108. Also consider that at 3.8Ghz the Phenom II 940 is only as fast as a 3.35-3.40Ghz Core 2 Quad at best, and that sort of speed can be achieved on most Yorkfields at stock voltage, they don't even need a proper overclocking board, a cheap £60 EP43-S3L would suffice.
Not trying to consistently rain on your or AMD's parade, but when there's nothing but hype and excitement in your posts, someone has to be the voice of reason :)
It's good, AMD have finally produced a decent Quad core processor, but nonetheless, just because they have doesn't mean it's all we should buy.
Creaky, Speedstep seems have two names, that, and C1E. Any references to either should be disabled.
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Originally posted by creaky:
Just passing thru to ask a final question re the GA-EP45-DS3. All is installed and working, the only thing amiss is that CPU-Z is showing the CPU to be 1600MHz with a Multiplier of 6.0, Bus Speed of 266MHz and a Rated FSB of 1066MHz.
Yet the BIOS (version F6 - p.s. i didn't see anything i need from newer BIOSes, the latest being F9) shows all to be correct as does XP's control panel.
Rebooting to double-check the BIOS but was after any insight - Russ you may well know what's going on if you wouldn't mind having a ponder.
Before i installed the relevant drivers from the supplied CD, CPU-Z was alternating between the above 1600MHz settings and the correct 2400MHz settings. I'm guessing there's some kind of speedstep rubbish that i need to turn off..
Sam, yep, there were two C1E settings needed turning off (speedstep type features).
Tried 'Easytune 6' for a laugh, it also showed the CPU to be at 1600MHz. Used this app to alter CPU to 2400MHz - bad move (system crashed). Turned off the 2 BIOS 'features' i mentioned and all was sorted (though i won't be using Easytune again); now going to go do some test encodes with DVD Rebuilder to give this new board a workout :)
edit- you gotta love XP sometime (sorry varnull!), but i didn't bother doing a fresh install after the mobo changeover. Simply hooked everything up and Windows booted up fine. A few BIOS settings to tweak, a few drivers off the Gigabyte cd ie chipset, sound drivers etc. job was a good 'un.
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yeah moving from my p35 asus p5k-e to my p45 asus maximus ii formula i didnt need to reinstall vista, but as a rule mobo change = reinstall for me, so i did :D
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10. January 2009 @ 16:42 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Just passing thru to ask a final question re the GA-EP45-DS3. All is installed and working, the only thing amiss is that CPU-Z is showing the CPU to be 1600MHz with a Multiplier of 6.0, Bus Speed of 266MHz and a Rated FSB of 1066MHz.
Yet the BIOS (version F6 - p.s. i didn't see anything i need from newer BIOSes, the latest being F9) shows all to be correct as does XP's control panel.
Rebooting to double-check the BIOS but was after any insight - Russ you may well know what's going on if you wouldn't mind having a ponder.
Before i installed the relevant drivers from the supplied CD, CPU-Z was alternating between the above 1600MHz settings and the correct 2400MHz settings. I'm guessing there's some kind of speedstep rubbish that i need to turn off..
In the setup, I turn off EIST and C1E and leave on TM2 in the Advanced BIOS Features to protect the CPU from meltdown! C1E being turned on changes the multiplier lower when it idles, and comes back up to speed the minute you put a load on it! If you make those changes I suggest in the setup, it should read correctly!
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I turn off EIST and C1E and leave on TM2 to protect the CPU from meltdown! C1E being turned changes the multiplier lower when it idles. If you make those changes I suggest in the setup, it should read correctly!
Russ
Cheers Russ those are the 3 settings i'd figured out earlier on, the pc is running tickety-boo again :)
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10. January 2009 @ 17:22 |
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creaky you might want to try that F9 bios. thats what i had to do with my board when i got it. had to flash to the F9. once that was done all my problems went away. i have the GA-EP45-DS3R. it had the F6 bios also. i went right to the F0 bios and problem solved.
edit for spelling/grammar as GM would say
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No problems now Rob, it was just those 3 speedstep type settings.
I'm not going near a BIOS update, it aleady pained me (jobless as i am) paying £9.99 next day shipping on top of the cost of a new mobo just to get this blessed PC up and running again (the RMA is in progress and if they don't end up honouring it i'll be hugely out of pocket). Anyways, i'm not normally phased by firmware/BIOS updates but when i first bought the MSI board a BIOS update killed it dead and i'm not risking a mobo flash again unless there's something specific in there that i need. (I didn't flash that MSI's replacement btw, it didn't even need an update in the first place!).
But thanks for the info anyway.
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The latest BIOS for my board decided 1.7V was a good voltage for the CPU to be at... I too am no longer in favour of BIOS updates...
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The latest BIOS for my board decided 1.7V was a good voltage for the CPU to be at... I too am no longer in favour of BIOS updates...
WOW! Theres a good tip if I ever heard one. Bumped your voltage without permission! Well... Im NEVER flashing my mobo bios! I'll have the shop in town do it. Atleast if something goes sour, its all on them :)
:D <------ windows 7's pretty sharp (on another note) Installed in 20min too. oh yah, its play time.
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I'm no overclocker so virtually all is left on Auto in the BIOS, my God there's bags more options in the Gigabyte BIOS as opposed to the (nice and sparse) MSI BIOS.
No movies need encoding so i'm catching up on some Seti@home work units, the pc's new max temperature is 49C and i think it sits at about 35C at idle (i'm certainly no perfectionist with thermal paste but am happy with the end result).
So far i'm more than happy that the PC's stable again, the only thing bothering me is that the Corsair RAM fan thingy is quite loose where it hooks onto the RAM clips. I've cable-tied the power cable for the fan thingy to stop it vibrating it's merry way into oblivion ie into the monster Zalman cooler :)
edit- I see that Windows 7 Beta 7000 is officially out for download, i'll grab that when the internet's free.
edit- i forgot to mention, my MP3 hard drive corrupted on me, the e-SATA to SATA converter cable broke and i stupidly left it loosely connected so it obviously buggered the drive.
No problem, managed to remove and re-add the disk and format. Being as the new mobo has 6 SATA ports i don't need yet another crappy converter cable.
Am now copying all my music off the backup USB2.0 drive. Thank God for backups eh!
The only job left on the PC is finding out why my cheapy SATA PCI-e card isn't working, so my 2 LG burners are awohl for now. luckily i have other burners as i've had enough messing with technology for one day. It's movie time.
edit- Figured out why the 2 SATA burners had disappeared - the clue was that they wouldn't physically respond ie no power to them. Checked all cabling, nothing amiss, then noticed one of the modular plugs that goes into the side of the (Corsair) PSU was more pronounced than all the others. It turns out when i'd unplugged all the plugs that one of them has dislodged an internal plug. Managed to push the inner plug back inside the actual PSU and all is working again. Phew!, didn't fancy dismantling everything again. If it was a cheapy PSU i wouldn't have trusted it but as yet again i'm impressed with the quality of this Corsair PSU.
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Wow, 20 minutes, that's less than half the time Vista takes, and even less than XP I believe. Did you need to have Vista to install it?
creaky: Welcome to the modern BIOS. Asus users even criticise Gigabyte's BIOSes for not being featured enough, and as for DFI well, you're in for a shock! Trust me creaky, you won't need the Dominator fan module. My 2x2GB Dominators run a full 25ºC lower than the 4x1GB XMS2s I had before, and I don't use the airflow powerhouse case you do :)
On the plus side though, I was pleasantly surprised with how quiet that fan module turned out to be.
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Yeah, i wasn't convinced the Corsair Airmax was a necessary purchase, but i thought what the hell. I'm happily coping using just 2GB of the Ballistix for now, if ever i find a job i'll splurge and go for some Dominator's, plus a few extra 1000VA Plexus UPS's for around the place. Then i'm all technology'd out for a fair old while!.
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your temps are about identical to mine. but i do have mine OC'd. .
now guys. i know most of all of you have more experience in the PC building world than i do. i have done 2 bios flashes. 1 on the GA-P35-DS3R & 1 on my now GA-EP45-DS3R. and not one problem with the flash.just take your time and follow the instruction/directions on how to do it and all should be fine...
Creaky your right easy tune 6 isn't the way way to go.. Russ and Mort made that clear to me not to use the tuning programs that go with the boards..
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When I bought my RAM, it was cheaper to come with the fans than without, and that situation persisted for a while in the US too.
Rob: I have never had any issues with the flashing process per se, but the BIOSes themselves are often bad. Three quarters of the ones Asus released for the boards I had of theirs all bricked the board permanently, like Creaky had with his MSI. Nothing that severe with Gigabyte, but as I Say, auto-ing a CPU to a dangerous voltage, and randomly reverting to the original F1 BIOS periodically makes a mockery of the whole process. I'm on F3 for a while, but if I encounter a BIOS reset due to a failed overclock if I go at it again, it will put F1 back.
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No, I was running XP before. I did a CLEAN install of 7. It doesnt bother me to reinstall every other day if needs be. I just thought I would take a peak at this "INCREDIBLE MICROSOFT RELEASE"
So far, No words will give this OS justice. Smooth running, quick install (no bloatware yet though), Graphics running IMMEDIATELY!!!
I havnt even installed my GPU drivers and its running at max resolution for my monitor! Must have some kinda unified driver. Infact all of my hardware is running minus capture card, and printers. Though it didnt fix my Ide card trouble :( My guess is I have a lemon, or it simply wasnt designed for optical drives. But the manufacturer is as confused as I am soo...
Hmmm... I see i got bumped to senior member, :D
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Someone told me the Win7 beta demanded they had Vista before they installed it. Oh well, obviously isn't the case.
I believe Vista has a software native resolution system, though just like much of Vista, it is also troublesome.
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Build 6801 of Windows 7 certainly doesn't need Vista, don't know about build 7000 as haven't got that yet, but i doubt it'll need it either.
edit- Rob - yeah i only installed Easytune for a laugh. Needless to say i wasn't laughing when it crashed the machine. Can't uninstall the damn thing either. Can't be arsed with editing the registry manually to get shot of it, so have just renamed the shortcuts out of the way for now. As Gordon Ramsey says - 'Done'.
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modded BIOS FTW??? lol
i use them sometimes, then upgrade to a propper new bios, and then wait for the modded version :)
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Easytune never caused me any problems, it was just a completely useless and functionless program.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Someone told me the Win7 beta demanded they had Vista before they installed it. Oh well, obviously isn't the case.
I believe Vista has a software native resolution system, though just like much of Vista, it is also troublesome.
Troublesome? So would you recommend installing the PROPER drivers? I suppose thats a good rule of thumb. And I am seeing little stutters in video. I guess they simply made it a better experience, UNTIL the proper drivers are installed. Cause on XP without proper graphics drivers, web pages were pretty rough, until proper drivers were installed. I suppose they would have to upgrade their basic graphic drivers with a login as sharp as this!
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hey guys I have a friend that was building a pc for me. Just wondering here is what he quoted me on. I just wanted to get some input on whats a great deal. I initially wanted to spend 500 don't mind going alittle bit more.
CASE:
Antec P182SE Mirrored Stainless Steel ATX Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS $170
DVD DRIVE;
LG GH22LS30 Black 22X SATA Lightscribe DVDRW $35
MOBO:
Asus M3A78-EM Socket AM2+ AMD 780G Chipset + ATI SB700 ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics (HDMI) Dual Channel DDR2 1066/800/667 1x PCI-Express x16 2.0 4x SATA 3Gb/s 8-Ch HD Audio GigaLAN 12x USB2.0 Support (Phenom 140W CPU) $120
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AMD Phenom X3 8450 (95W) Triple Core Socket AM2+ , 2.1GHz, 3.5Mb Cache, 1800MHz HT, 65nm (HD8450WCGHBOX )$150
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OCZ 550W Fatal1ty Series Power Supply (OCZ550FTY) $100
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Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2GB 2X1GB PC8500 DDR2-1066 CL 5-5-5-15-2T 240PIN Dual Channel Memory $120
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Western Digital Caviar (WD6400AAKS) 640GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Buffer (OEM) $90
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Windows Vista Home 64-bit (OEM) $150 OR FREE YOUR CHOICE
I wanted quad core initially as well help me out and give me some better parts if you see them for the best bang for the buck.
I went to another forums and they all jumped on and said that I was getting ripped so good thing I didn't purchase that rig. I really do not know much on what parts are good but if you guys have some ideas that would be great on a whole system. I'm in Canada by the way so CDN prices only. looking to spend at most 800 CDN
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