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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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15. January 2009 @ 14:24 |
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I wouldn't even worry about having anti virus when using the beta anyway. Just use the built in windows defender and firewall and you will be fine. I really like windows 7 so far. I have it installed in a vm and it runs great.
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15. January 2009 @ 14:29 |
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I must admit, in all my years of pc use, and years of downloading half the internet, i've only ever been bitten by one virus, and that was a very minor one.
Of course in Linux we don't need virus checkers (As Windows is the biggest virus LOL), but in Linux i do use clamd, just because it's there to install though.
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15. January 2009 @ 14:34 |
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lol. I don't have anti virus installed on windows 7 and I probably won't install any. As long as you aren't clicking random links you wont catch anything.
GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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15. January 2009 @ 16:19 |
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krj15489
which vm are you using to run windows7?
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15. January 2009 @ 16:28 |
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vmware workstation 6
GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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15. January 2009 @ 16:37 |
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I use Sun's Virtualbox under Linux, though i think it can be used under Windows too
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15. January 2009 @ 16:42 |
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Yes, there is a windows version of virtual box.
GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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15. January 2009 @ 16:49 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
I use Sun's Virtualbox under Linux, though i think it can be used under Windows too
would you happen to know how to make screen full in Virtualbox? i am using it in windows but i guess that its done the same in all of them.
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15. January 2009 @ 19:44 |
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I know Microsoft is a curse word to some, but their FREE virtual PC works quite well also in my experience (havent used virtualbox or VMware so cant really compare, but I'm happy).
Fullscreen is no problem and can also D/L a plugin to share folders with regular Windows.
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16. January 2009 @ 00:30 |
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Deadrum,
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I know Microsoft is a curse word to some, but their FREE virtual PC works quite well also in my experience (havent used virtualbox or VMware so cant really compare, but I'm happy).
Fullscreen is no problem and can also D/L a plugin to share folders with regular Windows.
I quite agree. I used it to install Win 98, and it worked fine. Drivers were the problem for the hardware with 98 though!
Russ
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16. January 2009 @ 03:28 |
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OH YAH!!! I'll be getting my new ram today. Though I wont see it til probably 11am. about 11 hours from now. It may not seem like much, to some of you, but its a big step up from where im at now. Im running 2gb of Gskill 6400 Latency 6 right now. Tomorrow, i'll be running 4gb of Kingston 6400 Latency 5. Im sure my High Dpi authoring, as well as Windows 7 will appreciate it! See... when I reauthor photo's at 600Dpi, and make drastic alterations (I DO), it begins to use ALOT of ram. ive seen my Windows 7 Ram gadget hit 98% useage while authoring one time. Thankfully, that was during the save process. Had it been before, Id of gotten that wonderful, "Virtual memory is low" error. Its come close in Windows xp as well. Though that was with a 1200 Dpi document. Im installing Windows 7 64bit this weekend. 32bit seems to be error free, for the most part. NOW, I can REALLY play! :D
Here is my ram, for those who are curious LINKY
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16. January 2009 @ 05:56 |
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Hey Omegaman7,
I managed to get Win 7 all installed, and everything installed except there was no driver for the SM Bus. I played around with it for half the day and It certainly has "Entertainment" value! The I rebooted, and blew it half up. I assumed that I would have to use the boot manager because it said you couldn't dual boot with XP, only Vista!
I selected the drive and that's the last time it worked! ROFL!! Turns out that it has it's own boot manager, and I screwed something up in the Win 7 install that it couldn't fix! I can boot into XP by selecting "Other Operating System", but no Win 7! Did I mention that there is no Un-install Program for Win 7? It won't let you Format the partition or manually remove Win 7. I had to run Killdisk II on the partition, and then had to remount the drive and format it! I can't remember when the last time was that I had to mount a drive! Thank God for Windows help as it actually works! ROFLMSOAO!!
Russ
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16. January 2009 @ 06:14 |
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:) sounds like a heck of a day! I hope my day doesnt turn sour today. I have a bit to accomplish. I cant wait to see how 64bit runs with my new ram. Or 32 for that matter. It almost seems adaptive! Is that possible? See Most the time, I average 50% Ram useage. Even in idle. But then I'll go to reauthor High Dpi photos, and when I exit, It'll drop to 20-25% useage. Isnt that funny? Ive seen it do that EVERY time since I noticed it the first time. Unfortunately, I didnt note its overall useage at FIRST bootup. Im kicken myself for it too.
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16. January 2009 @ 08:41 |
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CAS6 PC6400? I didn't know such a thing existed...
Russ, that's basically the same as Vista, in fact exactly the same I believe. Windows Vista and 7 both have to be the last thing you install, and you can't remove them afterwards without blanking the entire drive.
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16. January 2009 @ 09:30 |
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well win 7 IS vista :D
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16. January 2009 @ 09:47 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
well win 7 IS vista :D
Correction - Windows 7 is what Vista should have been, and from everything i've read, Windows 7 is here because Vista isn't what it should have been.
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16. January 2009 @ 09:50 |
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Agreed.
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16. January 2009 @ 11:14 |
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kernel wise, its NT 6.1, vista is 6.0. its vitsa, optomised with a new taskbar :D
just liek XP was windows 2000 spruced up :)
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16. January 2009 @ 11:15 |
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and just like Me was 98 spruced up... :O
A lot can change in a revision, sometimes for the worse, sometimes for the better. Hopefully in this case the latter!
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16. January 2009 @ 12:22 |
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if you really think that windows 7 is a big change from vista, like xp was from 98, then you'll be disapointed
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16. January 2009 @ 13:11 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
CAS6 PC6400? I didn't know such a thing existed...
LOL, is that sarcasm I smell + a grin? Thats ok, I can take it. Believe me, I would VERY much love to run lat 3 or even 2.5(2.5 doesnt exist as far as I know), but they're alot more expensive, and this computer has become a lost cause. NO quad support, NO High wattage support! So yes, its a lost cause. I dont wanna MAXX MAXX my board either. With the low latency, its that much harder it has to work. Besides 5 is a step up, IF IT WORKS! And I must admit, 6 seemed to work quite nicely. Most people who sit down to my computer, are BLOWN AWAY at how smooth/streamlined it is. :D
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16. January 2009 @ 13:58 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
if you really think that windows 7 is a big change from vista, like xp was from 98, then you'll be disapointed
I for one don't expect it to be much different to Vista other than it being much more responsive, especially on less-than-latest machines. 7's being built on Vista code, and (as per my previous post), all i expect from 7 is to be what Vista should have been in the first place. If the retail version lives up to the hype and proves to be a much more responsive OS than Vista, then i'm interested. If it ends up being as top-heavy as Vista, then i'm not. Simple really :)
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16. January 2009 @ 13:59 |
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sammorris,
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CAS6 PC6400? I didn't know such a thing existed...
Russ, that's basically the same as Vista, in fact exactly the same I believe. Windows Vista and 7 both have to be the last thing you install, and you can't remove them afterwards without blanking the entire drive.
Believe it or not Newegg has PC6400 Cas 6! 19 of them.
Cas 6 Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...52526967&name=6
I have no idea what the point of saving old windows is except to run it, if you can't uninstall 7. Another strange thing is it see's the other drive but you can't access it and it doesn't show the partitions. The Taskbar is a little different like when using Everest Ultimate 450 it groups the temperatures in a little pop up window. I'm sure I'll get to know all the in's and outs. I do like it though. Much friendlier than Vista. It installed every device except the SM Bus driver, which there's no driver for at present. Even Sandra installed, despite saying that it couldn't recognize the OS. Programs that wouldn't work at all with Vista or even install, worked fine with 7. I'm not sure I like the lack of options we are used to with XP. You no longer get to do things like not hiding your taskbar icons. I couldn't find any settings for that. Still like I said, it does have entertainment value and doesn't have all the Security BS and annoying pop-up windows of vista!
I just answered the door, and my E6750 is here! Now I've got my project for the weekend! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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16. January 2009 @ 15:13 |
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Spamual: I don't, I just see it as Vista without the general badness. So far, everything I've read shows that to be accurate.
Omegaman: No seriously, I had never seen CAS6 PC6400 for sale, I've only seen CAS4 and CAS5, and still do except for that link from newegg. Perhaps it's limited to sale in the US?
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16. January 2009 @ 15:17 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Spamual: I don't, I just see it as Vista without the general badness. So far, everything I've read shows that to be accurate.
Omegaman: No seriously, I had never seen CAS6 PC6400 for sale, I've only seen CAS4 and CAS5, and still do except for that link from newegg. Perhaps it's limited to sale in the US?
I meant no offense :) Yah, they make them that slow. But given the 6400 speed, cas 6 is actually ok. Infact, ive seen 7 once upon a time. Dont remember where, probably newegg though. Its where I do most of my shopping :D
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