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18. January 2009 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Do any of you guys know about socket 603 and 604? I got two old servers from my cousin with dual socket 603 with a single 2.4ghz xeon in each. I want to upgrade both of them with a second cpu but i am a little confused. Are 603 and 604 cpu's compatible with each other? This auction on ebay says they it can be put in both but i want to make sure of that first.

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Hey guys. I'm trying to choose between CPU coolers on a build, and the only two sensible choices I've come across are the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 (which i used to have), or the Sunbeamtech Core Contact Freezer. They are the cheapest for the performance they offer. Now I need to make a decision based PURELY on noise level. When I had the xigmatek, it was quiet enough for me, but for all I know the core contact is quieter. They perform almost exactly the same, so that doesn't really matter. So I wanna know, do you guys have any input on this?
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Originally posted by krj15489:
Do any of you guys know about socket 603 and 604? I got two old servers from my cousin with dual socket 603 with a single 2.4ghz xeon in each. I want to upgrade both of them with a second cpu but i am a little confused. Are 603 and 604 cpu's compatible with each other? This auction on ebay says they it can be put in both but i want to make sure of that first.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Working-Pull-XEON-2-...%3A1318

krj15489,
Socket 603 and 604 are compatible. It should work fine!

Russ


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Is it not possible to replace either cooler's fan with a quieter one?



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19. January 2009 @ 08:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys how do you think this rig would run games just something i have bulit out of what i had lay around my room for little bro.

Asrock P4VM900 (mb)
Intel P4 HT @ 2.60ghz
nvidia 8600GTS (my old card PCI-E)
500Watt No Name Psu from an acer lol
thermal take big typhoon (cpu cooler)
Antec 300

EDIT: i feel sorry for with a 17" CRT lol.

Here the idea i got in my head anyways is that it coming up to my little bros birthday. i was thing of these upgrades.

3.06ghz p4 HT (upgrade cpu)
120MM fans and a 140mm
160GB Sata HDD
Cosair PSU
dvd burner
2 Gigs of ddr 400mhz


any other thought are welcome.

thanks

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Unless you find that upgraded CPU for free, ditch the P4 and stick a cheap dual core in there.



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The Procesorr would be coming from ebay and the other stuff from Aria. The big thing for me has to the money side of things as i am getting my ALG at the moment as i am at college. So i thought this would be a good idea. Could you recermend a product from aria as cheape as possible. That will run a duel core and ddr memory and PCI-E graphics card.

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Originally posted by omegaman7:
am I to understand, Gigabyte has let you down? Uh oh...
I was considering giving them a shot. But why should I, when both my Asus (2001 HP still running), and my MSI havnt let me down yet.

I can be such a fool some time russ. I hope you were not insulted.
I feel as though I contributed to the argument in the NERO POST.
Sometimes words come from a place where the sun doesnt shine ;) I have virtually NO RIGHT to criticise Gigabyte. I have not boughten and seen one for myself. And I woud be a fool at this point to not acknowledge the 790's abilities. I totally know what you mean when you explained your Sony troubles. Though sony has always been good for ME, Philips, memorex, have not. When I read reviews at newegg, its NOT the deciding factor per se. I will indeed STILL be giving Gigabyte a shot. Because, one bad experience is not enough to justify the reputation of a company :) Alot of my hardware is proof of that! Sincerest apologies, Good day sir :)



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http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Component...productId=33611
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Component...productId=33611

Omegaman: It's not the be all end all, but I am on my third faultless Gigabyte board, after ditching my third faulty Asus board. I can't speak for the high end ones, but sub £80, Asus boards are terrible.
As for media, I see no reason to ever use anything other tha Verbatim - they are the trusted media for all sorts of things, from video DVDs to Xbox 360 backups.



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Navskin, LOL. Laying around the room huh. Well...I feel behind the times. My 8600GT continues to astound me. Ehhh...i'll upgrade with the next build. Though I must admit, it runs Windows 7 64bit without trouble! Im loving windows 7. Or what some people are calling Vista 2. Perhaps a sli setup next time. That way it will stay with the times easier.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/Gigabyte+GA-G31M-S2L+iG31+Express+Socket+775+Motherboard+?productId=33611
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Component...productId=33611

Omegaman: It's not the be all end all, but I am on my third faultless Gigabyte board, after ditching my third faulty Asus board. I can't speak for the high end ones, but sub £80, Asus boards are terrible.
As for media, I see no reason to ever use anything other tha Verbatim - they are the trusted media for all sorts of things, from video DVDs to Xbox 360 backups.

Isnt that remarkable! How one/more people get the best experience with a manufacturer, where as another person gets nothing but garbage! Must be something wrong with the galaxy, or the space time contiuum! LOL, totally joking.



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It's all relative. An 8600GT is ample for some people, completely unacceptable for others like me. Really depends what games you play and how much you care about graphics...



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Unless you find that upgraded CPU for free, ditch the P4 and stick a cheap dual core in there.
Sam,
I don't think there is any dual Cores in Socket 478! LOL!!

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I don't think there is any dual Cores in Socket 478! LOL!!

Actually I think there are dual cores for socket 478. They were used for Laptops but they are usable in desktop systems as well. The only problem is that they are too expensive. Perhaps some of you can do a little surfing to find them and then list them here.

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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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Sam,
I don't think there is any dual Cores in Socket 478! LOL!!

Actually I think there are dual cores for socket 478. They were used for Laptops but they are usable in desktop systems as well. The only problem is that they are too expensive. Perhaps some of you can do a little surfing to find them and then list them here.

Hmmm...it appears there are. Unless once again im believing a site to be accurate when its not. Your right, they are expensive!
Here it is to those interested LINKY



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.it appears there are. Unless once again im believing a site to be accurate when its not.

Perhaps this will help. I have an HP dv9230us Laptop with a T5500 core to duo processor and wouldn't you know it. LOL It just happens to be socket 478!!! I have jury duty tomorrow but when I get the chance I'll take a CPU-Z screenshot if needed. So debate ended!!


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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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Sam,
I don't think there is any dual Cores in Socket 478! LOL!!

Actually I think there are dual cores for socket 478. They were used for Laptops but they are usable in desktop systems as well. The only problem is that they are too expensive. Perhaps some of you can do a little surfing to find them and then list them here.

Sam,
I thought so too, until I discovered that they were all socket 479, called socket M at the time. For a short while you could buy a socket adapter, but there were too many compatibility issues, and not enough worked to make the adapters a viable product! The laptops all had Dothans or Yonahs. Server's also used socket 479 for Xeons, but they had a faster fsb than the 533 or 667MHz of the laptops. Asus used to sell an adapter (CT-479) for them as well! AOpen even had a barebones desktop based on socket 479, which was basically a laptop MB in a low desktop case! http://www.excaliberpc.com/568621/aopen-...vxr-socket.html Here's what they looked like! It came with no keyboard, mouse or monitor! LOL!! AOpen even made it worse with their later use of socket P, which while still socket 479, was not compatible with socket M 479 CPUs. The whole socket 478/479 turned out to be a fiasco because of lack of compatibility for the all the different architecture P4 CPUs! Very few socket 478 motherboards supported them all!

Russ


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Russ, so simply put, nothing but headaches LOL. What it sounds like to me. So much like BTX form factor, SHORT LIVED



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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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.it appears there are. Unless once again im believing a site to be accurate when its not.

Perhaps this will help. I have an HP dv9230us Laptop with a T5500 core to duo processor and wouldn't you know it. LOL It just happens to be socket 478!!! I have jury duty tomorrow but when I get the chance I'll take a CPU-Z screenshot if needed. So debate ended!!


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Sophocles,
You are right but they only work in socket M 478 motherboards, which adds even more confusion. It would not work in a P4P800SE motherboard. I know because I've tried it for a customer that bought one for his P4, thinking he could upgrade to a faster dual core.

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19. January 2009 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Russ, I'm pretty sure P5 indicates Socket 775.



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Sophocles,
You are right but they only work in socket M 478 motherboards, which adds even more confusion. It would not work in a P4P800SE motherboard. I know because I've tried it for a customer that bought one for his P4, thinking he could upgrade to a faster dual core.

I'm not so certain that is completely true either. Socket M478 processors used to be the overclockers delight for socket 478 boards because they were so much better than P$'s. In fact many think that they are responsible for Intel's core2 development (core2 was based on them) because of their performance even at low clock speeds. But you're discussing a socket platform that came out before Core2 processors were even thought of, or at least mentioned to the public.


Russ, you had one of these boards didn't you?

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The P4C800-E Deluxe can use an Asus CT-479 adapter, to run
Pentium-M processors. There is no CPUsupport entry for the
CT-479, so there is no way to know whether any processors
after Dothan or Banias can be used. It is unlikely newer
processors would just pop into the P4C800-E's own socket,
without some kind of adapter.
http://www.rackmountnet.com/Industrial-C...AN-1394-MB899F/

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Originally posted by sammorris:
Russ, I'm pretty sure P5 indicates Socket 775.

Sam,
I have no idea what you are referring to. What P5? I mentioned a P4P800SE MB, which is socket 478, so I'm confused!

Russ


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i have decided to wait for a while longer, he said its ok but what the hell i think i am going to all out wait for my back pay, then bulid a core 2 duo and give my little bro my AMD gamimg box. That is intresting about those socket 479 processor.

so out with the p4, i am going to bulid a box that is a bang for the buck (i think the saying gose) do you think that i could bulid c2d for around £300 well that base parts (ie mb cpu mem gfx) all my computer start in ma old antec 300.

thanks for all the info

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19. January 2009 @ 19:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry I got confused, too many posts today.
You tell me there's no dual core for socket 478, you're quite right. I intended to suggest a replacement motherboard as well, but seemingly I didn't write what I intended to.



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