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30. November 2007 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Taking from personal experience, at the same rpm, a fan with 9 blades produces more air than a fan with 7 blades, but also produces a LOT more noise.

It all depends on the design. It's not just the amount of blades. there are always trade-offs to any blade design. It all has to do with the surface area and how it's shaped. It all depends on how much air you want to move. The turbines I design are just the reverse of a fan as they are driven by airflow, but the same principles apply, just the opposite direction. It's all about how efficiently you can get the air to flow through it. My designs have to move 23-25 cfm of air in a space that's less than 1/4" wide and 3/8" long. less than 1/10" of that is the actual turbine. At 450,000+ rpms, it's a real high speed balancing act. LOL!! That's also why they are about 60-70 Dba! LOL!!

You are willing to accept higher temps to have less noise, while I'm willing to accept a little more noise to get cooler temps. We're both right, as we both get what we want. It's just what each of us prefer! Yours doesn't get excessively hot and mine doesn't get excessively noisy! We both win!

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30. November 2007 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello gentleman, Well im doing my shopping for my parts and looking for a good bargain. I noticed that the Cpu Q6600 and the E6850 are both the same price. Is there a big difference between the two. Im researching the data on both of these chips at the moment from Anandtech and and Toms hardware to see how they stack up. But i want some field input from those that have used it or are well versed in it. Thank you in advance for your input...

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It depends what you'll use them for. The E6850 is faster stock, and of course can be overclocked far further, but if any of the programs you use can make use of 4 cores, then the Q6600 will almost certainly be a better bet.



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30. November 2007 @ 12:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well i use alot of video editing programs Nero and TMPGEnc and the likes. 3D programs as well Lightwave 3D. Also do alot of website work and flash as well. Im sure lightwave will make use of this not sure on the other programs though...

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Couldn't say for certain but it sounds like you'll make good use of a Quad core CPU.



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Do you think it would be worth it get a quad core cpu if I'm going to be primarily doing heavy gaming with upcoming titles?

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For gamers, I'd say stick with dual cores for now. The few games that do make use of extra cores don't make very good use, and you can get current dual core CPUs to go faster than Quad cores.



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30. November 2007 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well as for Anadtech they pushed the Q6600 with the GO stepping to about 3.4 and reviews on this have said that some have pushed it to 3.5 to 3.6 thats a decent overclock. Depending if you get the chip with the lower voltage settings. Going to see what tom has to say about these chips...

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Of course from what I've read the E6750 can make 4Ghz quite easily...



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30. November 2007 @ 17:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chop2113:
Well as for Anadtech they pushed the Q6600 with the GO stepping to about 3.4 and reviews on this have said that some have pushed it to 3.5 to 3.6 thats a decent overclock. Depending if you get the chip with the lower voltage settings. Going to see what tom has to say about these chips...
Just about all the popular CPU's out today are gonna hit 3.4 ~ 3.6 ojn air. The bigger challange and performance when it comes to RAM, is what ones can hit 500FSB+.

I use both the Q6600 (GO) and E6750 on P35 and X38 mobos right now and the Q6600 is still hard to get close to 500FSB without some major volt tweaks and very unstable with RAM up devides cause of this hi PLL and FSBT needed to keep them there (lots of stress on chipset and MCH)

500FSB for the E6750 is a snap at very minimal mobo volts compared to the mobo volts needed to stable a Q6600 at even 475FSB. Even the E6550 does 500x and of corse the E6850 does this with room to spare. most are doing 4.1GHz on air and 4GHz easy with less vcore then neededfor E6750 (I use 1.57v on mine).

For the other guy into media, an OC'd dual with high RAM bandwidth and ggod timeings will do just as good for the apps you mention in the same multi tread use of 2.

For the overclocker, the E6x50's are just plain fun to play with, clock high FSB and clock and with less heat output.

I do like my Q6600. It may bench slightly higher in some synthetics, but only really shines in multi core app like WinRar, WinZip and several other number crunching aps for media transcoding/encoding. For just ripping DVD, they're the same more less.

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NuckNFuts,
I'm just going to wait until the price comes down on the QX9850. At $989 at Newegg, it's just too damn expensive right now. I don't know how well it overclocks, but at 55,900+ MIPS at 3.0GHz, who cares! LOL!! I wouldn't at all be surprised as DDR3 memory improves it's timings and Latencies, and the prices drop to see a lot of us with a QX9850 in our not too distant future's!

I would like to see a dual socket motherboard that you could use two E6850s (or any of the new Dual-Cores, for that matter) in a Quad configuration for gamers. That would smoke the QX9850 for sure at a lot lower price! I know, keep dreaming! LOL!!

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I'm just going to wait until the price comes down on the QX9850. At $989 at Newegg,

I believe these two first release are "E" extreme versions, so prices will hardly drop to what we'd feel worth it by the time mainstream duals & quads release for 45nm.

Even Nehamen 32nm would likely release befor you see "QX" extremes drop to even $800.00. It's like I said above a while back, just cause it is outdated in terms of us enthusiast, it's still cost too much to get out and the price is gonna hold or they just take a loss and dont sell till we dont need or want them anymore. Remembar how long it took the P3 Tualatin 1.4GHz to drop to "worth it" status before just moving on to new P4?

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Remembar how long it took the P3 Tualatin 1.4GHz to drop to "worth it" status before just moving on to new P4?

About 3 years ago I had a new Dell 3000 2.8/800. I sold it and kept the old 420 workstation. It was faster on one 1.2GHz P-III than the newer P4. Using both CPUs it was a runaway for the 420! ROFLMAO Even as a 733MHz it was faster! LOL!! I sold the 3000 console to my neighbor and kept the Workstation. Used to tick him off that I could do the same movie with Shrink almost twice as fast as he could with the 3000. Best $65 I ever spent, and the 420 was only a pup at 2, when I bought it. Came with keyboard and mouse! Found the original 19" monitor 6 months later, a D1226H which was one of Dells best 19" CRTs, for $50! Ran even faster when I upgraded the Rambus memory to 2 GB! Worked out to just a little over $1 a pound! LOL!! Still have it and use it! Expensive SOB when new too!

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Hey guys, i wanted to see if anyone could do me a favour or point me in the right direction of Super PI usage and how overlocking decreases the calculation time. Like for example making a stock e6750 @ 2.66ghz run pi to 4 million places. Taking that result and then overlocking to maybe 3.?ghz and doing a reading of how much time is saved.
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theonejrs, I too still have 3 of the old PIII OC'd workstations I ran. on ASUS P2B-DL w/ SDRAM and P3 DL w/ RDRAM 1200 and dual Coppermiine 933MHz to 1.14GHz and a dual s370 Tualatin 1.13GHz (while waiting for new 1.26 release) to 1.4GHz

Anywayz, as for new Penryn based offerings v/s AMD's new parts, most of us here will not be dabbling with "QX" Extreme chips. "They're not the ones to really look at when it comes to sizing up what's going to happen in the overall Intel/AMD picture,". "It's the Core 2 Quad Q9550, Q9450 and Q9300, and Core 2 Duo Q8500, Q8400, Q8300 and Q8200." that will be in the hands of us real world overclockers.

Just some of the lastest findings on upcoming releases for Intel by next month we hope.

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NucknFuts,
The Dell 420 Workstation was something special. It's only real flaw was a 1x - 4x 4x AGP slot instead of the 4x - 8x one. You couldn't use an 8x AGP card in it! It had a full server board, Optional 10,000 rpm Scsi drive, external Scsi port, and it was fast with 2 733s in it and a lot faster with 2 1.2s. You couldn't overclock it but it would blow the doors off of the older P4s. It had a hard drive cage that would house 4 3.5" hard drives and handled both Scsi and IDE. With four 512MB sticks of Rambus in it it really flew. I wasn't joking about the dollar a pound it cost me as the console weighs 58 lbs!

BTW, I had my new GA-P35-DS3R Rev. 2.0 MB all hooked up and with a pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1066 memory sticks I borrowed from a friend and it easily hits 4.0GHz. I just don't like how high you have to push the VCore, so I won't be running it that fast. It's nice and stable at 3.8GHz running on a 1900MHz fsb, and that's where I'll probably run it once I get the memory. I wish I could have kept the Tracers a bit longer (say a year or two!) LOL!! Oh well, he was nice enough to let me use it for a few hours, so I shouldn't complain! LOL!! The G.Skill 800MHz memory I have now is only good to about 890MHz so I'll have to wait until I can get the 1066 Tracers first. Very nice motherboard, BTW! Gigabyte really came through for me on this one and it runs like a dream. FedEx really screwed up and delivered the new board to the wrong address and it was lost for about a week. I had a new board the day after we found out it was missing. They even "gave" me the optional Printer port that hooks up to a header on the motherboard so I can run my ancient Mustek 600 III EP scanner on it. I offered to buy it and they sent one along for free! the extra 6 USB ports on the back is a big plus too. At last I have enough USB ports! It has a few other little goodies that the Rev. 1.0 didn't have and is a completely different motherboard. Even the bios is different and not interchangeable with the ones for Rev. 1.0. Gigabyte Rocks! Best service I've ever had in my life! Very nice people too!

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As I mentioned in an email Russ, the printer port came as standard on the backplate for my board... it's the purple parallel connector at the top of this picture right? That's what I used to use for printers before USB.
http://img.clubic.com/photo/00502960.jpg



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Sam,



As you can see by the pic the printer port is no where to be seen. On mine it goes into an emty slot on the back of the computer and plugs into a header on the MB. You can see the black header on the extreme left! It has 2 USB ports below the LAN port and you can see the additional ones to the right of that. Like I said in my e-mail, it's a completely different motherboard.

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How interesting, the one I got is like the the link I showed you...



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Sam,

Here's the rev.2.0 of your motherboard. Looks like my new one, but has the DDR3 slots!




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So they removed the Parallel port? This is all very confusing!



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Look again! I forgot to put the pic in first time. It has the same printer port header on the left as mine does. It just gave them room for the extra 4 USB ports. The optical sound port is under the coax one as well!

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So they removed the Parallel port? This is all very confusing!

Maybe you better lay off that water cooled heat pipe...sam...or...are you a Purist...like theonejrs...LOL..:)


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Lp531,
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Maybe you better lay off that water cooled heat pipe...sam...or...are you a Purist...like theonejrs...LOL..:)

Nah! He's just too overclocked! ROFLMAO!!!

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