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29. November 2007 @ 17:19 |
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good luck Russ. looks like you da man and you're on your own. I would never recommend OC'ing (to any degree) with an oem cpu hsf.
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29. November 2007 @ 17:33 |
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29. November 2007 @ 18:14 |
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yeah, I've got to admit I have performed some minimal OC'ing with stock cooler, but for moderate to high OC's I never even wasted my time. just slapped on an aftermarket performance hsf and proceeded to OC. looks like I've been vetoed. forget everything I said. carry on and OC that puppy and good luck.
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29. November 2007 @ 19:44 |
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@Mort
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looks like I've been vetoed.
No way...to be honest...I have not used a stock cooler in 5 years or more...as you see I tried to lead him to an after market cooler...
No matter what...He is better off with an after market cooler...even if he does not OC...
Just like Sam is a noise freak...I am a cooling freak...for me...I always try to keep my temps as low as possible to extend the life of the components...an after market cooler goes on everything I build...even if its not OC'ed...
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29. November 2007 @ 20:03 |
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My case is of no-name origin (its called "VAV") but I've equipped it with as many fans as I could. It has worse ventilation than my last case but the airflow is consistent and I don't think it'll be too much of an issue (venting heat, that is). The major ventilation fan rests right over the heatsink (and it even channels the fan from the heatsink).
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29. November 2007 @ 20:03 |
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Mort81,
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good luck Russ. looks like you da man and you're on your own. I would never recommend OC'ing (to any degree) with an oem cpu hsf.
Sent with all due respect!
Actually, it's a rather nice 4 heat pipe cooler. I know a number of folks who got one when they started shipping them with the Opteron 185 and the feedback has been very good. I'm not sure but I think DocTY has one with his 185 and he said it was pretty good. I could be mistaken but I do know a few other folks who bought the 185 back when I posted it in the Bargain Bin at the Hounds, and all said the same thing! I know it performs way better than the original AMD CPU coolers for the 64 x 2s.
I personally think there should be a distinction between an everyday 24/7 performing overclock and the maximum you can get out of it. I mean you can hammer the voltage to within inches of the downwind side of hell heat wise, but it ain't gonna last at those voltages and you couldn't run it as an everyday computer. There are certain rules that apply to any overclock, and raising the voltage to well beyond the manufacturer's limits is, or should be one of them! I mean what's next, a thread on using Liquid Nitrogen.
Newbies come here and see Nuck (not picking on you, my friend!) running over 1.5 volts using premium everything, but how may folks here have or can afford that price tag? Problem is, is that these Newbies see that and think they can do it with their low to mid-priced motherboards, and mid range memory, and they can't! You and I both know that, but the Newbies don't!
Best Regards,
Russ :>)
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29. November 2007 @ 20:30 |
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hi Russ,
I wasn't pointing any fingers or calling anyone out. sorry my friend if you got that impression.
I admit I am not familiar with rescent AMD cpu's and related components. I'm sure the oem hsf that comes on the later upper end AMD cpu's is better than average/most.
like LP531 I'd rather be safe and go with a performance cpu hsf even if I don't intend on OC'ing (which as you know doesn't apply to me) :) and like you it's better to be safe than sorry to recommend a performance cpu hsf where OC'ing is considered especially where newbies are involved.
LP531 and theone,
sorry if I ruffled any feathers. performance and precaution is just my way of doing things.
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29. November 2007 @ 20:35 |
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Dude...No ruffled feathers here...now theonejrs...he has a bad temper...watch out...LOL...He might not have used his water cooled heatpipe yet today..:)
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29. November 2007 @ 20:42 |
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hehe,
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now theonejrs...He might not have used his water cooled heatpipe yet today..:)
doesn't he just call that his bong :) :)
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29. November 2007 @ 22:57 |
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Mort81,
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I wasn't pointing any fingers or calling anyone out. sorry my friend if you got that impression.
I didn't get that impression at all, I only said "With all due respect" because in this particular instance I don't quite agree with you. I've never be an advocate of OEM coolers but in this instance AMD should be given their due as all reports indicate it's a fine cooler, that does a very good job of cooling. Certainly head and shoulders above the crappy junk that Intel provides with it's box processors! And it comes free with the higher end box processors!
PS No Bong! I don't like water in my smoke! I'm a purist! LOL!!
Lp531,
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Dude...No ruffled feathers here...now theonejrs...he has a bad temper...watch out...LOL...He might not have used his water cooled heatpipe yet today..:)
No temper at all, Just controled insanity Dude! ROFLMAO!!
Beat Regards,
Russ
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29. November 2007 @ 23:01 |
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cool. so are you gonna share your water cooled heat pipe?
:( nevermind you edited :(
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30. November 2007 @ 00:25 |
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Mort81,
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cool. so are you gonna share your water cooled heat pipe?
Coitenly! :>) (<:
I once saw a guy put Coca Cola in his bong. All of a sudden the bubbles started coming out of his nose! LOL!! Though he was going to die! ROFLMAO!!
Just fired up the new Rev. 2.0 MB! It wasn't gigabytes fault. It would have been here on the promised day, but FedEx delivered it to the wrong address. Not only was it the wrong number, they delivered it to the wrong street! LOL!! GigaByte Rocks! They didn't take any chances and shipped me one out Tuesday and I got it 9 AM the next day! That's service!
Regards,
Russ
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30. November 2007 @ 04:39 |
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The Stock cooler for that CPU is far above average, but I'm in the camp that "you can do better for cheap, so why not do it?"
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30. November 2007 @ 04:55 |
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sammorris,
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The Stock cooler for that CPU is far above average, but I'm in the camp that "you can do better for cheap, so why not do it?"
I'm from the school that says why buy something if you don't need to. You need to purchase the "Box" CPU if you want the 3 year warranty anyway! OEM's are usually only a few dollars less, and you give up a lot of the warranty! All the reviews I read back when they first started including it with the Opty 185 found that it was as good as the Freezer 64 and the Zalman 9500. You don't get much cheaper than just about for free! LOL!!
Anybody having one that they don't use, just send it to me! I'll gladly pay for the shipping in advance! I would love to test one on the 4000+ and compare it to the current Freezer 64 that's in there now!
Clockin On at the Speed of Light,
Russ :>)
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30. November 2007 @ 05:06 |
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I seem to recall reading that the Freezer 64 offered inferior cooling performance to the Freezer 7 somewhere, why would that be?
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30. November 2007 @ 05:28 |
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sammorris,
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I seem to recall reading that the Freezer 64 offered inferior cooling performance to the Freezer 7 somewhere, why would that be?
I think that was true only with the older 64s before they went to the 92mm fan! The coolers are identical. Just the mount is different! I know as I own both and have closely compared them side by side! Even the fans are interchangeable! It may also have to do with the socket's position on the motherboard. It does a good job on the 4000+ which is overclocked to 2.8GHz. It should even do better in a case like mine! It ran all last summer and never came close to overheating without air conditioning, just a swamp cooler in an ambient temperature range of between 30 and 32C! Not bad considering it was in the low 100F degree range with outside temps as high as 115F.
Best regards,
Russ :>)
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30. November 2007 @ 05:44 |
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I know, that's why I was confused. That's an impressive stock cooler then, if it can keep up with the 9500 and the 64 Pro!
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30. November 2007 @ 07:26 |
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sammorris,
It's funny, the heat pipe is a very old idea. Back in the late 40s they had Christmas tree lights that had a sealed glass tube about 2 inches long that had some sort of liquid in them that would bubble from the heat of a 7 watt bulb. Same idea! I always thought the Freezer 7 was a 6 pipe cooler until I saw a 3D drawing of one and realized they are 3 pipe design that goes through the copper base and up each side. That's why you see 3 rounded ends and 3 that have been crimper and soldered.
The AMD is made for them by Foxconn, I think. It even looks nice! I'm trying to find a pic of one to post. I even called AMD and they sent me a URL, but I can't get it to work. It's more than likely from e-bay and I'm banned for life. I got rooked one time and when they wouldn't do anything about it I desputed the charge on my credit card and they didn't get the money! Hey, you buy a Compaq K-6 with a 15" screen, you shouldn't get a laptop motherboard instead! LOL!! Their "Guarantee" isn't worth a flip as they don't want to know you is something's wrong. I stopped the payment before I even called them. The told me that I had to pay or they would see me in Court! I'm still waiting! ROFLMAO!! E-Bay is a den of thieves! I think they are members of the "Villains, Thieves and Pirates union"! LOL!! I tell people all the time not to use Paypal but use their credit card. Let Visa do your fighting for you! What's E-Bay gonna do stop doing business with them? Trick is if it doesn't come within the 3 day shipping, call Visa and dispute the bill! You can always call them the next day and say the package came. This way all they have is the promise of payment that has about the same guarantee as E-Bay! Pay with Paypal and don't get it, Too bad!
Remember that guy and his friend that were bragging about blagging things on e-bay and ripping people off? He didn't stay long after I got done with him and everybody here knew he was a piece of crap (not the word I used)! I thought I was going to get at least suspended for it but nothing was said! Guess the powers that be, agreed with me! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ :>)
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30. November 2007 @ 07:32 |
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I think you were right, I held the same view. That seems such a long time ago now...
As for paypal, that's a worthy insight. I tend to use Credit card payments where possible, but most of the time it's paypal.
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30. November 2007 @ 07:36 |
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30. November 2007 @ 07:40 |
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Hmm, a 5-bladed fan, how interesting. You don't see many of those on CPU heatsinks...
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30. November 2007 @ 07:44 |
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yeh looking like theyre set at about 45º so quite agressive. long fan blades too so it should force a fair bit air through, but is it at the cost of noise
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30. November 2007 @ 08:02 |
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ck5134,
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yeh looking like theyre set at about 45º so quite agressive. long fan blades too so it should force a fair bit air through, but is it at the cost of noise
Thanks for the pic dude! I've been looking for hours!
I don't think it will be too noisy as if you look carefully you will see that the curve of the blade is very flat. combine that with the wideness of the blade itself and you can move a lot of air fairly quietly, and at lower RPMs! That's one of the advantages of the 5 blade design! The down side is that it will never be quite as smooth as a 7 blade design, which isn't quite as smooth as a 9 blade If I could get a better picture I could run it through my air turbine program and make a fairly close guess as to the noise level, + or - a couple of Dbs!
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30. November 2007 @ 08:12 |
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@theonejrs
Paypal is a den of thieves...I had the same thing happen with E-bay and Paypal...My problem was with "Paypal Certified"...Bought a P/S off a dealer that required certification...so I did it...
They sent a P/S with wires cut...and case lid to P/S open...Paypal would not Do anything...I contacted E-bay...I asked them about how I had just been certified and that I was told it would provide added security and help with disputes...they told me as long as the seller sends you something...even if its a rock in a box...
They told me...that as the buyer...I lost all rights to dispute...That is what Certification is for...they then told me it only guarantees that the seller is guaranteed payment...
Why would the seller ever need protection...they are protected by not sending the item till the money is sent...Called my Bank they fought and got my money back...E-bay and Paypal are in cahoots...
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30. November 2007 @ 08:17 |
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Taking from personal experience, at the same rpm, a fan with 9 blades produces more air than a fan with 7 blades, but also produces a LOT more noise. I tested this with a Silverstone FM121 and a Scythe S-Flex, both at 1600rpm. The Silverstone pushed a lot more air, but the Scythe was pretty much inaudible over the din the FM121 caused. Due to the fact that 9 blades cause a higher pitched noise, which the ear is more sensitive to, technically a lower blade count should win out.
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