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20. November 2007 @ 16:31 |
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Yeah and they DO support DX 10.1, so maybe. Right now I'm happy with my Core 2 Duo, maybe a couple of years later, or if I can sell this, I will see what happens. I am still tempted to go Intel because of their performance lead and the new processors coming out, but if I build an Intel machine it will definitely be using the chipset that comes out AFTER X38.
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20. November 2007 @ 16:36 |
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sammorris,
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It's an image from Tom's Hardware.
All I get when I run the URL is a "500 Internal Server Error"!
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Russ
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20. November 2007 @ 16:37 |
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20. November 2007 @ 16:44 |
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sammorris,
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Can you get here?
That works fine! I still have no idea of what you were referring to! Is there a compatibility issue with the P-35 and the 45nm chips?
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Russ
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20. November 2007 @ 16:44 |
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I need some help again please peeps, some of you may remember I have a comando mobo, would it be a good idea for me to resell this and get a P5K deluxe P35?
Q6600 G0 cpu
Dominator 8500
Any advise would be great
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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20. November 2007 @ 17:17 |
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Yes! I would if you can sell it soon.
The P5K (Deluxe) is become one of the best P35 on DDR2 overclockers since I had it early this spring. Yo can read the review to confirm. The Premium version only came to offer better support for 4 sticks of DDR2 to 1066, but then what serious overclockers try to cram that much load into a OC'd chipset?
X38 is looking to be followed very shortly by X48, so this may make established X38's like P5E, affordable. Now this is good for DDR2 users since X38 will continue to be the better of modern DDR2 overclockers and especially for quad core user. On the ASUS to speak of, higher DDR is easier with new 2 phase DDR volts. DDR1200 on deviders is getting more stable as BIOS's come along. That long hated FSB hole is no more with excelent FSB to NB strapping and the advantage to manually strap it yourself to get the closest best CPU:RAM devider to suite your needs. I now get if needed, 2:3, 3:4, 4:5 5:6, 1:2.
So as mentioned, it's a great stepping stone for now if wanting to stay DDR2 for he rest of the majorit of '08.
Hope this helps!
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20. November 2007 @ 17:24 |
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No, it's the benchmark. Note how the Phenom scores lower in Sandra than any of the Core 2 Quads, and by quite a big margin. Not really the most promising of starts...
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20. November 2007 @ 18:38 |
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sammorris,
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Note how the Phenom scores lower in Sandra than any of the Core 2 Quads, and by quite a big margin. Not really the most promising of starts...
Notice also that it does a pretty good job compared to the top C2Ds! I look at it this way. At least AMD has something that can compete with some of the better C2Ds even up! Even if it takes 4 cores to do it! At the prices indicated, who cares?? Remember, no one wants to hear about the labor pains, they just want to see the baby! LOL!! AMD will also improve on them as time goes by and the prices will come down. How many people are going to shuck out $1300 or so for the baddest Intel Quad? I just don't see everyone running out and buying one! What AMD has done is give people something in between the Quads and the C2D, that's very affordable! A big plus is that it's backward compatible with older AM-2 motherboards and chipsets!
Clockin On at the Speed of Light,
theone :>)
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20. November 2007 @ 18:48 |
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Hmm, agreed, but imo a Quad core should be ruddy better than the Core 2 Duos!
There's still no getting away from the cost of them though.
The 9600 is on pre-order at OcUK for a round £200.
The Q6600 is on sale for only £160 (retail).
A £40 cheaper CPU earns an extra 30% in Sandra, it's still not looking good for AMD in my mind.
Don't get me wrong I used to be an AMD supported, but there's no getting away from the fact that Intel have the upper hand by far. I'm not convinced Phenom is going to change anything in that regard.
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20. November 2007 @ 19:15 |
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Again, it depends on what you want out of your system, and if you will OC or not. If you will game, just surf the net on Afterdwan, or get into some A/V transcoding or file compression and data crunching.
A good dual is gonna offer a lil more then some average quads (today speaking) on overclocking for media encoding and data compression, or just good gaming. Those synthetic scores only mean something if you game in a way that can actually use the chip like that. For day to day use, most will never see the difference. Although, better X38 BIOS are giving current quads an edge to catch up to core 2's in FSB so they can now start shine with mobo in high FSB + more clock.
Who will buy 'em, them Penryn Extremes? Lot I can imagime. It's something new and long awaited. The guys who are buying $1400.00 set of SLI and Crossfire dont mind I guess. My 1st SLI set on 6800 Ultra cost only $1249.00 and I thought that was too much. If one has the money, why not. I wont, cause I'd rather wait for the mainstream version. I dont buy extremes anymore. Give me a $500.00 or less Penryn and that'll tide me over till Nehalem and later 32nm with integrated DDR3 controller.
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ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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20. November 2007 @ 19:23 |
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Hehe, I like to think my PC performs pretty well in the games arena, but consider that the CPU is only worth about £70 and the GPU only about £100, it just ridicules the high end gear, considering I can play most games that come out at high resolutions on max. To date I can only name three games that don't run fine at 1920x1200 max, which are Crysis, Rainbow Six Vegas and Stalker. Even call of duty 4 runs fine at those settings.
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20. November 2007 @ 19:28 |
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sammorris,
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Hmm, agreed, but imo a Quad core should be ruddy better than the Core 2 Duos!
Why? Is it cast in stone somewhere? If you could buy a car with a V6 capable of blowing the doors off of any V8, you would buy it without caring whether it's a V8 or not! so why should core count have to mean anything? AMD has a pretty good thing going in the performance per dollar category as it's so much cheaper than the Intel Quads.
So it doesn't beat the Intel Quads! Like I said, so what! It seems to be the equal or better than everything but the 4 Quads. That's more than AMD could do before! We'll have to wait and see how well they overclock!
Clockin On at the Speed of Light,
theone :>)
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20. November 2007 @ 20:37 |
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Yeah but it's Competing against the QUADS. The thing is that the AMD dual cores don't beat the Intel dual cores and the AMD quad cores don't beat the Intel Quad cores. So Intel seems to still have the lead. Now if they would stop releasing a new chipset every six months.
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20. November 2007 @ 21:11 |
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Russ: I disagree with your last statement. if it were at the same price point as the Duos, then it wouldn't matter that it's not as fast as the Core 2 Quads. However, it's not, it's more expensive than the Q6600 by a whole 25% over here, and it underperforms by that much too. Pound per flop, the Q6600 is a better deal by some 60%, and that hurts. As for how well they overclock, I'd say the Q6600 still beats previous AMD offerings in that regard, so the Phenom will have to surprise everybody in that department for it to be a worthwhile investment.
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20. November 2007 @ 22:20 |
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sammorris,
Granted the price is a little higher but the difference is not that much here for the two chips. About $15 USD! Then again what will the Phenom do when both are overclocked. The Q6600 is not a great overclocker. Also remember that AMD didn't allow a voltage increase when Tom's overclocked them and hit 3.0GHz. Who knows, a small adjustment to the core voltage and it might even pass the Q6600 in performance. I would certainly consider one to play around with. It's only about 6000 or so MIPS slower than the Q6600 and at 34,000+ MIPS at stock speeds, which is also a range that the Core2Duo's can only hit when overclocked, I would say that AMD has found a market! Can't wait to see how well the production ones overclock! Could be very interesting! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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20. November 2007 @ 22:29 |
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Not a great overclocker? Hmm, not compared to the duos maybe, but that's what we've become used to. The Athlons by comparison aren't exactly any better.
Feel free to play around with them, but I think I'll pass.
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20. November 2007 @ 22:58 |
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sammorris,
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The Athlons by comparison aren't exactly any better.
Try Overclocking an Athlon 64x2 that's 2.3GHz up to 3.0GHz sometime at stock voltages and you'll get the idea. You won't be doing that with an Athlon 64x2! Even if that OC was achieved on the 9700, it's still a 600MHz speed increase without upping the voltage from 1.225V. To me, that bodes well for getting beyond 3.0GHz with all three CPUs!!
Best Regards,
Russ :>)
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20. November 2007 @ 23:02 |
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Which they'll need to, given how slow they are to start with! Lol you can see where I'm going with this. Nonetheless, it's in keeping with the overclocking enthusiasts, and reminds me of when the D805 came out and you could pull high overclocks with it. Despite how slow they were, everybody wanted one!
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21. November 2007 @ 01:01 |
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Good point on them D-805, and let's not forget the P4 506 to the same 4.1GHz on air. I ran both.
Too much focus on braggin' points for my taste. I go with what suites my needs, and for the past 20yrs, it's been Intel w an AMD here and there for fun. Not to say AMD wasn't good or fast in gaming, but for all round stability as daily OC'd user, back to my Intel.
My X2 4400+ on both 939 and recent AM2 did fine to 3GHz on decent vcore, the 939 (89w) was cooler believe it or not. on the ASUS A8N-SLI. Now maybe it was the CROSSHAIR mobo, but keeping these cores and nVidia chipsets to high overclocks as daily users w/ the family and friends wanting to all play their games required periodic maintainance.
My OC'd D-950 (C1) on air w/ ASUS P5W-DH is still going at 4.25GHz with good reliable daily user performance for the whole household as a file server, and multiple user log ins w/ S2K3 R2 Ent. I couldn't really depend on many of my AMD overclocks like that except for a still in use dual Opteon server (s940) on Tyan server mobo. Furthermore, that same Intel D-950 (2 years ago) as a workstation on P5WDG2-WS along side X2 4400+ felt every bit as smooth (real world use) in the apps I needed them for, especially media & high end workstation work. It just had that overall user smoothness and was hard to crash. Every AMD high OC had occassional slug downs and lock ups requiring hard resets during extreme gaming or stress or just took much longer to come out of a snag.
Just my personal experience with the two. Not to be mistaken as an Intel fan boi, I just work w/ what is reliable for me, my workplace and home. And I will continue to use an AMD along side to compare cause their fun to play with. The family loves then too. If you crash, just restart and go at it again. It was just a game, no like the security media server went down too. Lol!
My Two Cents!
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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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21. November 2007 @ 01:17 |
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My 4200+ was great, but then I never overclocked it much. It ran fine at 2.4Ghz (from original 2.2) but that's as far as it would go with value memory...
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21. November 2007 @ 01:27 |
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I still gotta' get to playin' w/ my recent X2 6400+ Black Edition on the CROSSHAIR. It's the only AM2 mobo I have left in the hoese.
I welcome you AMD bois to come forward with input on this soon to come OC test run. I think maybe if I get more familiar w/ AMD and the inner workings of the nVidia platform, I should get better satisfying results. I'm open if you guys wann' share nVidia Tweaking know how.
Let's se what this baby can do!
Clock It To Me!
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ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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21. November 2007 @ 01:46 |
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sammorris,
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Despite how slow they were, everybody wanted one!
True, but it had a very high multiplier. The big difference is the D-805 didn't come out of the box doing 35,000+ MIPS at a stock 2.4GHz at stock voltage! The 9700 is slower than the Q6600, but still a fast CPU. Nothing but the Intel Quads do better at stock speeds. Next down the ladder for Intel is the E6850 and it's 5,500+ MIPS slower. We'll have to wait until someone actually buys a production one and does a build to find out how well they overclock. Still it puts AMD in a position they never occupied before, right in the gap between the E6850 and the Q6600, and that's a pretty wide gap! Once Intel runs out of Q6600s, the gap will be even bigger.
Time will tell!
Best Regards,
theone :>)
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21. November 2007 @ 01:48 |
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Why would they run out of 6600s? Have they stopped being produced?
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21. November 2007 @ 01:52 |
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Can anyone point me in the direction of a site or something that tells you the basics on overclocking? I can't seem to find any, and the lingo here is way beyond me at this point.
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21. November 2007 @ 02:10 |
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Erm, I'd point you to a URL but chances are, you're already on it
[/pedantism] Seriously, have a read through the earlier pages of this thread.
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