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tsrps3
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9. November 2007 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So hmmm.. wassup 2.00? ^^
Still working ok, anyone tried?
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David891
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9. November 2007 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tsrps3:
So hmmm.. wassup 2.00? ^^
Still working ok, anyone tried?

I'll test soon.
I'm allready at 2.0 so I dont have choise anymore to go back.

EDIT: Yes, works fine on 2.0, so you can safely upgrade, its a good firmware (many new things).
I havent tested the time before laser stops but if it's changed i'll post it here.

EDIT 2: time for the laser and motor is still 8 minutes and 30 seconds, same as before.

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tsrps3
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9. November 2007 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
awesome, thanks for the detailed report!
See you,

TSR

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tsrps3
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20. November 2007 @ 13:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
2.0.1 tested and still working OK ;)
Later,

TSR
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24. November 2007 @ 01:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
People have been scared of this being patched by sony but in all honesty I don't think they can for the simple fact that if they could it would have already happened like with all the other potential exploits that we have been finding.
Shinraboy
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24. November 2007 @ 16:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Will this let me play PAL DVDs (films)?

And does this work with all models? (20, 40 60, 80)

THANKS :)

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ooZEROoo
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24. November 2007 @ 23:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not sure about films.

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Shinraboy
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25. November 2007 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks :)

Last thing, Can this mod play PAL movies on a NTSC ps3?
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2. December 2007 @ 19:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks soo much.!!!!
just one kwick question though...
any firmware it's known not to work with???
vegetassj
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2. December 2007 @ 19:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey I have a question,

I asked this earlier but don't think I got a response. I already have done this method and it seems to work. But while getting this to work, I accidentally pulled the sensor wires off from the source of the connector. I have pretty much ruined it :(. I am guessing the little sensor wires are just to power the sensor right? does anyone know how much power the sensor needs and if I can use a battery or some other source to get the sensor back on? just so that if I want to put my ps3 back the way it was, I can without any issues. I don't even use this mod much anymore...so I want to know if I can fix this sensor thing so that I can put my ps3 back the way it was before the mod.
David891
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3. December 2007 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by secKEn:

any firmware it's known not to work with???

Every firmware works, even the latest (2.01)
Originally posted by vegetassj:
Hey I have a question,

I asked this earlier but don't think I got a response. I already have done this method and it seems to work. But while getting this to work, I accidentally pulled the sensor wires off from the source of the connector. I have pretty much ruined it :(. I am guessing the little sensor wires are just to power the sensor right? does anyone know how much power the sensor needs and if I can use a battery or some other source to get the sensor back on? just so that if I want to put my ps3 back the way it was, I can without any issues. I don't even use this mod much anymore...so I want to know if I can fix this sensor thing so that I can put my ps3 back the way it was before the mod.

I think when you put a switch between the two little wires will word, no battery needed.
I think when the sensor can see a disc it connects the two wires, so if you turn on the switch the ps3 thinks you put a disc in and tries to suck it in, if there really is a disc it will probably suck in and work (I think).
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4. December 2007 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
could somone put a video of this tutorial please... I can hardly see the pics and i dont want to open my ps3 up unless its neccsessary...

Fat PSP: 3.03 oe-c (will update when i have time :P)
tsrps3
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4. December 2007 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
read the whole thread, it's FULL of big pics.
Reading 19 pages is long but your ps3 is worth that much, don't you think?
vegetassj
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4. December 2007 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tsrps3:
read the whole thread, it's FULL of big pics.
Reading 19 pages is long but your ps3 is worth that much, don't you think?
What about my question?

First off, @ David

You can't wire the sensor to the switch like that. The switch is used for original functionality, but in order to do that, the wires still end up in the original connector.

I have RUINED the connector that the sensor wire plugs into, so I want to know, can I use an alternate power source for the sensor? does anyone know? maybe I can connect it to 1 AA battery? or 2AA Batteries? I want the PS3 back in normal condition, but I can't unless I get the sensor up and running.

Can someone please tell? I was one of the few in the earlier times who did this method, and I asked this question and got no answer.
tsrps3
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4. December 2007 @ 15:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry vegetassj, dunno the answer cause i unplugged the sensor connector properly (it was tough because it's so small) and never used it since installing the mod.
(so don't really know if it's power lines or data lines we have at the end of the connector).
Later,

TSR

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StrikerGT
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6. December 2007 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi everyone, I just read this thread yesterday and decided to do this trick. I successfully installed the 3-way switch and decided not to use the other 2 since I don't mind doing it for every game. I took out the sd card reader out of the front (i have the 60 GB version) and put my switch in there along with the 2xAAA battery pack that powers it. I have a question though, what are some tricks I can mount the switch so it stays in place while i switch it. Because I tested the mod and it works, I just need to mount it in a permenant way. I don't want to do any drilling to my ps3, but wouldnt mind using something like tape or putting something in that enclosed space to put the switch in.
StrikerGT
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6. December 2007 @ 08:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also I was wondering what is this wait time everyone is talking about. Something about the laser having a 8min and 30 sec wait time until it idles. But can't I just swap even though it's spinning, doesn't seem like too much of a risk, someone please elaborate on this wait thing more please.
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6. December 2007 @ 10:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I am begginning to understand, but doesn't the laser only try to read the disc until it is authenticated, then goes into a standby mode until you actually play the game. So in this standby mode since its not actually reading anything, you would think as far as the laser goes it would be safe to swap the discs since the laser isnt doing any actual work at that point, correct? I know the disc is still spinning, but thats a risk that is minor to take in my opinion, im just more focused on the laser issue here.
David891
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6. December 2007 @ 10:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by StrikerGT:
Ok I am begginning to understand, but doesn't the laser only try to read the disc until it is authenticated, then goes into a standby mode until you actually play the game. So in this standby mode since its not actually reading anything, you would think as far as the laser goes it would be safe to swap the discs since the laser isnt doing any actual work at that point, correct? I know the disc is still spinning, but thats a risk that is minor to take in my opinion, im just more focused on the laser issue here.

Were not sure if there is a standby mode or something like that, but we do know that some ps3 lasers got killed when they switched without waiting. What you do is up to you but if you want to be sure you dont kill your laser you better wait 8:30 minutes (tip: put screensaver on 10 minutes and then you know you can switch safely).

The way I built it in requires 2 wholes drilleng inside the cardreader, so when you turn down the black thing you almost cant see I modded ps3
StrikerGT
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6. December 2007 @ 13:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by David891:
Originally posted by StrikerGT:
Ok I am begginning to understand, but doesn't the laser only try to read the disc until it is authenticated, then goes into a standby mode until you actually play the game. So in this standby mode since its not actually reading anything, you would think as far as the laser goes it would be safe to swap the discs since the laser isnt doing any actual work at that point, correct? I know the disc is still spinning, but thats a risk that is minor to take in my opinion, im just more focused on the laser issue here.

Were not sure if there is a standby mode or something like that, but we do know that some ps3 lasers got killed when they switched without waiting. What you do is up to you but if you want to be sure you dont kill your laser you better wait 8:30 minutes (tip: put screensaver on 10 minutes and then you know you can switch safely).

The way I built it in requires 2 wholes drilleng inside the cardreader, so when you turn down the black thing you almost cant see I modded ps3
Do you have a picture of what yours looks like? Also, do you think that they might make a version of Swap Magic that can stop the ps3's laser and disc spinning?
David891
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6. December 2007 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by StrikerGT:

Do you have a picture of what yours looks like? Also, do you think that they might make a version of Swap Magic that can stop the ps3's laser and disc spinning?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7489/gesloten1nw9.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4127/open1ln0.jpg
If you look good to ps3 you see on bottom a switch, that is a 2 way switch (tought it was 3 way but ordered wrong one :s) So thats why I made the little dip switch in inside of cardreader (on photo you can see it through cover, you cant in real, just by photo) With the dipswitch I can let the motor spin (in the way the 2 way switch stands) and I also can turn on and of the sensor with the dip switch.

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StrikerGT
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6. December 2007 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks, well I have done like like 4 swaps without waiting last night, am I already screwed? When it burns out, does that mean it just won't work no more? Is that the risk> Cause mine still works...
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6. December 2007 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by StrikerGT:
Thanks, well I have done like like 4 swaps without waiting last night, am I already screwed? When it burns out, does that mean it just won't work no more? Is that the risk> Cause mine still works...

Some on this forum it hapened after like 2 days, so thats maybe 20 swaps. But I think it doest have to do with the ammount of swaps but I think that every swap without waiting has a percentage of about xx% to kill dvd laser.
Yours isnt broken yet, there are other people saying they alwast swap without waiting and say they never have problems, but you better wait to be sure you are safe.
StrikerGT
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6. December 2007 @ 16:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by David891:
Originally posted by StrikerGT:
Thanks, well I have done like like 4 swaps without waiting last night, am I already screwed? When it burns out, does that mean it just won't work no more? Is that the risk> Cause mine still works...

Some on this forum it hapened after like 2 days, so thats maybe 20 swaps. But I think it doest have to do with the ammount of swaps but I think that every swap without waiting has a percentage of about xx% to kill dvd laser.
Yours isnt broken yet, there are other people saying they alwast swap without waiting and say they never have problems, but you better wait to be sure you are safe.
So I will be safe as long as I wait 10 minutes before each swap from now on then? Also I was curious if the backups could be modified, for an example, maybe booting a ps2 disc with emulators?
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David891
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8. December 2007 @ 04:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by StrikerGT:

So I will be safe as long as I wait 10 minutes before each swap from now on then? Also I was curious if the backups could be modified, for an example, maybe booting a ps2 disc with emulators?

Yes, then you will be safe, but in the 10 minutes you better not touch the controller/system cause if you open the wrong program the 8:30 minutes will be longer.
The ps3 has a ps2 emulator that not even support all ps2 games, they probably didnt made that program that a emulator would work.
If you want to run an emulator you have to try linux on ps3, it will run a few emulators from old consoles.
 
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