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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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25. July 2008 @ 11:38 |
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With the highest DVD speed of 22x only reaching 30.5MB/s, the limitations of ATA probably won't be apparent. S-ATA is really just useful for the smaller cable...
The cable is the one irritation that I have with IDE drives, because I do prefer the smaller footprint of SATA cables, but in the performance department fir burning the difference isn't worth discussing. Now with a Blu-Ray drive playing back with a bitrate that often exceeds 30 Mbps I think and IDE might have a problem. I will eventually move all drives to SATA as they begin to fail but I see no reason to purchase a new drive just to have SATA when my IDE drives work just fine.
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25. July 2008 @ 11:50 |
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Do what I did, get round IDE Cables. A lot easier to tuck away, & work with. A definet PLUS
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25. July 2008 @ 11:51 |
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Nice as round cables are, the plugs at the end are still a pain, and the cable itself is still much bigger than that of S-ATA cables. If you're a neat and tidy person then S-ATA cables are also easier to route.
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25. July 2008 @ 11:58 |
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sammorris,
How did you get the report of the S.M.A.R.T. information for your HDD? I just enabled my S.M.A.R.T. in the setup, but have no idea how to generate a report like you did.
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25. July 2008 @ 11:59 |
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25. July 2008 @ 12:00 |
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Originally posted by 21122112:
Mr.Abuzar1
I dont mean any disrespect, but why do you think that drive is the only one that can burn Xbox games? My close friend has an array of different drives and he backs up all his kids Xbox games with everyone of them??
Indeed. i backup xbox games (old xboxes not the 'Red Ring of Death' xbox 360's) on any of my burners, as long as the games are copied correctly you can use pretty much any burner
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25. July 2008 @ 12:17 |
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@Sophocles
Is that Plextor 716 you got for sale..lol been looking for 1 of
them Old schools...
@abuzar1
if want sammy burner that bad..i got old sh-w162 ide sitting over here i don't even use No more it's just sitting and old case $20 buck lol..
Done out of Here!
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25. July 2008 @ 12:25 |
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21122112 and Creaky, I am talking about COPYING XBOX 360 GAMES. lol It's not for burning and it's not for the regular Xbox. The Samsung is one of the few drives that can be flashed with Kreon firmware so it can READ 360 games.
Originally posted by rick:
abuzar1..I can strongly recommend Lite-On DVD RW, SATA or IDE. I've personally bought 12 from NewEgg, this year, have yet to have one fail. Also 4 Friends who also own them, think they are great. I've got no use for
LightScribe,but definetly want Bitsetting. As far as Speed goes, I never burn over 8x,so 22x vs.20x not that important.Now from what I've read and understand Sonys do not bitset (not a quote) I could be wrong. But mine does not bitset(fact) I only buy DVD-R, but on occasion end up with DVD+R. As an addict you probably know more then
me in regards to all this. Best regards, Good luck.
Lol Being an addict means I just post a lot. I have basically NO IDEA when it comes to DVD drives. That Samsung seems to work well for people and it's one of the four drives that are capable of reading Xbox 360 games so that's why I'm getting it.
Bigwill, unfortunately your drive wont work for my purposes. And it's IDE... I can't stand IDE anymore lol.
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25. July 2008 @ 12:25 |
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and some of you lot complain when we talk about gfx :P
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25. July 2008 @ 12:49 |
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Alright SCREW THAT. I STILL need a DVD BURNER!!! The stupid drive is DVD-ROM.
Damn I'm so pissed off now I'll probably just get a damn Lite-On DVD Burner and be done with it.
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25. July 2008 @ 12:54 |
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abuzar1 wrote: I'm so pissed off now I'll probably just get a damn Lite-On DVD Burner and be done with it.
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Good Deal There alittle loud to some people But they get the job done well..i hope you got a Mod chip in that game console that swope magic JUNK don't work..
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25. July 2008 @ 13:04 |
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Yes, from personal experience Lite-Ons ARE loud, but I'm fine with that.
Also I DO have a Modchip in my PS2. You don't do swap magic with the 360. On the 360 I have flashed the firmware on the DVD drive so it thinks backups are retail copies.
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25. July 2008 @ 13:09 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Yes, from personal experience Lite-Ons ARE loud, but I'm fine with that.
Also I DO have a Modchip in my PS2. You don't do swap magic with the 360. On the 360 I have flashed the firmware on the DVD drive so it thinks backups are retail copies.
Which modchip did you go with on your ps2?
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25. July 2008 @ 13:18 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
21122112 and Creaky, I am talking about COPYING XBOX 360 GAMES. lol It's not for burning and it's not for the regular Xbox. The Samsung is one of the few drives that can be flashed with Kreon firmware so it can READ 360 games.
I have basically NO IDEA when it comes to DVD drives. That Samsung seems to work well for people and it's one of the four drives that are capable of reading Xbox 360 games so that's why I'm getting it.
When you burn to a disc that is what your doing.Copying it to the disc. You have to copy the Xbox game and Burn it to a disc, Then have it booktype to DVD-ROM. DVD-ROM is what all games are. That is there format.
Maybe im missing something here in what your trying to say about the games. I havent done it, but I know alot of people who have. It doesnt have to be a specific drive just one that can bitset.
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25. July 2008 @ 13:23 |
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Abuzar, get the samsung with the kreon. that will be great for copying games.
@everyone else, the samsung is special because when flashed with the kreon firmware it is able to read the game. with other drives you have to use a dual layer dvd movie then open the drive with the emergency escape hole then switch it with the game. the kreon drive simplifies everything.
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25. July 2008 @ 13:26 |
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bigwill68,
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Yes, from personal experience Lite-Ons ARE loud, but I'm fine with that.
Here's another loud drive you can add to that list! Philips SPD2413! Makes the Pioneer's and Lite-On's seem quiet. I just acquired one the other day! The model is less than a year old, seems to work well, but talk about buzz! Like a nest of Hornets! LOL!!
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25. July 2008 @ 13:51 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
bigwill68,
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Yes, from personal experience Lite-Ons ARE loud, but I'm fine with that.
Here's another loud drive you can add to that list! Philips SPD2413! Makes the Pioneer's and Lite-On's seem quiet. I just acquired one the other day! The model is less than a year old, seems to work well, but talk about buzz! Like a nest of Hornets! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
i say the lease Russ you better get you a set of ear plugs sometime soon you if you don't plan to be deaf in the long run..LOL..come to think of it brother my very first burner was a Verbatim - 2.4x2.4x8 DVD+RW, 12x10x32 CD-RW Drive Internal IDE boy is that and old boy back then..i payed $138.79 included shipping from tigerdirect that was in 2003..i still got the Box to this Day don't laugh... that's when burners first came out at that price..can anybody remember when the First Dvd burner came out? butt i'm happy with the 3 burners i have now in my Rig BenQ Ls 1655,Lite-on LH-18A1P,Sony Nec Optiarc AD-7200S..and the BenQ is the less Quiet of them all..
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25. July 2008 @ 13:54 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
bigwill68,
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Yes, from personal experience Lite-Ons ARE loud, but I'm fine with that.
Here's another loud drive you can add to that list! Philips SPD2413! Makes the Pioneer's and Lite-On's seem quiet. I just acquired one the other day! The model is less than a year old, seems to work well, but talk about buzz! Like a nest of Hornets! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
It's a Lite-On... :D linky
Boozer,
I know NOTHING about the Kreon f/w you're talking about. I don't backup 360 games as I don't have the console. ;) I'll look into it for you just to learn but at this point krj knows more than I. ;) I would look at contacting Tokijin like someone said. He's the man at backing up console games. ;) good luck until you are certain. ;)
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25. July 2008 @ 13:57 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
my very first burner was a Verbatim - 2.4x2.4x8 DVD+RW, 12x10x32 CD-RW Drive Internal IDE boy is that and old boy back then..i payed $138.79 included shipping from tigerdirect that was in 2003..i still got the Box to this Day don't laugh... that's when burners first came out at that price..can anybody remember when the First Dvd burner came out?
i bought my first cd-rom drive when they first came out, early 90's, it was something like £150 for a (wait for it) 1x speed drive, i think my first dvd burner was a Sony DRU-700
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25. July 2008 @ 14:10 |
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Originally posted by Creaky
i bought my first cd-rom drive when they first came out, early 90's, it was something like £150 for a (wait for it) 1x speed drive, i think my first dvd burner was a Sony DRU-700
i had to do a site check on that 1 here's where..i went
http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/firmware.htm
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25. July 2008 @ 14:21 |
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i think my first dvd burner was a Sony DRU-700
My second DVD drive was a DRU-500 which was well over $200 because it was the first Dual format drive.
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Is that Plextor 716 you got for sale..lol been looking for 1 of
them Old schools...
Sorry but I intend to keep it until it stops spinning.
My lite-On drives aren't noisy but I know that of the early ones were when ripping. As far as burning is concerend one should never use their system for anything else while doing it anyway.
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25. July 2008 @ 14:30 |
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boozer with the little that I've read you will need to get 2 drives for your backup needs!! The "Kreon" drive is a DVD-ROM only drive and all it does is READ the XBOX/XBOX360 game (disc) to your HDD (assuming that part) and you have to burn the "image" with another drive to a DVD5/DVD9 disc. Of course you can use any drive that will bit-set DVD+R or DVD+R DL discs.
That list includes: some drives to consider. ;)
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Personally I'd get the Pioneer 216D. I've had very good luck with Pioneer for burning and reading. ;) The caveat is you have to "flash" some "modded" f/w to the drive to make it bit-set if memory serves. Of course you'll have to do it with the Sony/NEC/Optiarc AD-7200S as well. It's well worth it tho. ;)
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25. July 2008 @ 15:07 |
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booxer these ODDs are VERY VERY recomended AND can use the Kreon FW
Pioneer drives:
111, 112, 115, 212, 215
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25. July 2008 @ 15:11 |
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GM, well my Laptop burns DVDs just fine. Still I DO need a DVD Burner. Don't worry about it, I will sort it out.
I'm ordering the Videocard, Ram, HDD, and DVD Burner from newegg.com today. I will get the mobo, CPU, and the Tuniq Tower in a few days and I already have the Case and PSU.
Originally posted by 21122112:
Originally posted by abuzar1:
21122112 and Creaky, I am talking about COPYING XBOX 360 GAMES. lol It's not for burning and it's not for the regular Xbox. The Samsung is one of the few drives that can be flashed with Kreon firmware so it can READ 360 games.
I have basically NO IDEA when it comes to DVD drives. That Samsung seems to work well for people and it's one of the four drives that are capable of reading Xbox 360 games so that's why I'm getting it.
When you burn to a disc that is what your doing.Copying it to the disc. You have to copy the Xbox game and Burn it to a disc, Then have it booktype to DVD-ROM. DVD-ROM is what all games are. That is there format.
Maybe im missing something here in what your trying to say about the games. I havent done it, but I know alot of people who have. It doesnt have to be a specific drive just one that can bitset.
I already burn Xbox 360 DVDs. I know any Dual Layer DVD burner that can bitset will work. I'm talking about putting a RETAIL XBOX 360 game in my COMPUTER and reading the image so I can burn it. Do you kind of understand now?
SHAF, I think the Pioneers are just the recommended BURNERS for XBox 360 games. I don't think they can RIP the game.
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25. July 2008 @ 15:22 |
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any DL burner can BURN THE GAMES. i was talking about RIPPING THEM, as they need kreon FW, AND THESE CAN BE FLASHED WITH IT. im not st0000000000000000000000000pid (although i can see why people think so HAHA)
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