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I'd go with the corsair, it just works. Corsair do make 8500 stuff by the way, which is excellent.



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Originally posted by abuzar1:
So I bought the Optiarc. No going back now. I just bought 4GB of PC2-8500 corsair dominators, the optiarc, seagate 250GB hdd, and an asus 4850.
Which seagate you run with?

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A lot of burning software book types DVD+R discs to DVD-R.
and to set the record straight it's not +R to -R it's +R to Rom...lol

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I would go for this.
I did go for that, it's what I'm using now, but OCz is also a very solid memory brand so it shouldn't be overlooked. The price was certainly right.

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abzuar: I finally got clearance to return my q9450 for a replacement. I did what you told me to say, and it worked! I just want to know...did you just send your processor and nothing else? And what did you mail it in?

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I've already got the memory (both)
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then stick with the OcZ



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I've already got the memory (both)
Then you shouldn't be asking anyone which one to use, try them both and keep the one that serves you the best.:D

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Originally posted by mrk44:
abzuar: I finally got clearance to return my q9450 for a replacement. I did what you told me to say, and it worked! I just want to know...did you just send your processor and nothing else? And what did you mail it in?
you have to send it back just as you got it box and all with heatsink..just stick box in another small and UPS it back to intel..The rep should have gave you some info on how to send it back to intel..make sure you get a copy or copy of tracking number..so you can see the traveling times and the receiving time they got it you can keep up with all that on ups.com...:)

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Originally posted by bigwill68:
you have to send it back just as you got it box and all with heatsink..just stick box in another small and UPS it back to intel..The rep should have gave you some info on how to send it back to intel..make sure you get a copy or copy of tracking number..so you can see the traveling times and the receiving time they got it you can keep up with all that on ups.com...:)
Thanks for the info! Sucks that I'll have to pay shipping...
The rep told me that I'll get an email w/ info on how to ship it...but the email I got doesn't give any info AT ALL....
thanks again

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Creaky,

Opps! Guess this is where I show my age! LOL!! My first CD-Rom was in 1985! Atari ST-1040. It was external and came with a pretty decent Encyclopedia CD. 1x speed, $499!

My first for a PC was in 1989. Creative Labs Soundblaster w/CD-Rom, Internal 1x. would only work with Creatives IDE interface, until the Software caught up, $299!

I guess inflation hasn't hurt the computer industry so much as you can buy a High Quality DVD-Burner for right around $30 and it does everything with one drive! Pretty remarkable, when you think about it!


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Originally posted by shaffaaf: any DL burner can BURN THE GAMES. i was talking about RIPPING THEM, as they need kreon FW, AND THESE CAN BE FLASHED WITH IT. im not st0000000000000000000000000pid (although i can see why people think so HAHA)

Unh,,,,, That would be Stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuid! Sorry, but I just thought that was funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny!! ROFLMSOAO!!

Russ

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Originally posted by rick5446:
is best or better to install the CPU & FAN B4 U install the MOBO or after ASUS Rampage
Where is the best place to get a skematic of this Brd
I always install both the cpu and hsf in the mobo prior to intalling the mobo in the case. some hsf's have to be installed on the mobo prior to installing the mobo in the case, due to a backing plate for the hsf.

you can dl the manual from asus website. here it is http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

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All the CD/DVD burners I've bought, were in order:
£95
£45
£25
£15

See the trend? :)



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All the CD/DVD burners I've bought, were in order:See the trend?
Yes, being a student doesn't always pay well, although I have to confess I am unfamiliar with the brands and models.:P

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Opps! Guess this is where I show my age! LOL!! My first CD-Rom was in 1985! Atari ST-1040.
No Russ, it shows your age because you're actually admitting it, but it "depends".


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I always install both the cpu and hsf in the mobo prior to intalling the mobo in the case.
I always install my processor in the motherboard right away just to protect the pins, but I wait to install the heat sink and fan because I want everything else out of the way first. Also I take a lot of care with the heat sink installation. Sometimes you are required to install retention clips and support brackets that require it done before the motherboard is installed. In my last installation I used bolts and nuts from Home Depot in place of the supplied clips for better CPU to heat sink contact.







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Lol, no, because CD Writers have got cheaper over the year.

Acer/Benq 40x20x10 CDRW was £95
LG GSA-4163BA was £45
NEC ND4570 was £25
LG not sure what, but a 20x S-ATA drive was £15



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Originally posted by mrk44:

Thanks for the info! Sucks that I'll have to pay shipping...
The rep told me that I'll get an email w/ info on how to ship it...but the email I got doesn't give any info AT ALL....
thanks again

@mrk44

i just got off the phone with Intel..First they asked me how long have you had it ?..I don't know..I said 30 days..i guesss but they gave me a number to Tech support #916-377-7000..you said they sent you and e-mail with nothing in it you need to call them back and tell them you need the address and what you need to write on the package youur sending back..here's what you need to know when you call them:

Before you call Intel: If your retail boxed product qualifies for warranty support directly from Intel, have the following information available to give to the support agent when you call.

Proof of purchase
Email address of customer
Name of product
Product Code
Serial number-Spec +FPO for processors
Description of problem
Shipping address

here are other support #'s

IMPORTANT TECHNICAL SUPPORT PHONE NUMBERS
http://www.ezinstructions.com/phoneno.html




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bigwill: Thanks for the info. I got their email a little later with the stuff I need to know. I don't know what the one I got before was. The processor is boxed and ready to be shipped.

It's weird...they never asked for my proof of purchase at all.

And in the email, it says that the thing will go through a visual and functional screening process and if there is no defect found, the same one will just be returned to me.... This may be a problem, as mine works, it just doesn't work WELL (hot, messed up sensor?, came with marks on the top, etc.)....

EDIT: Wait never mind there is no screening process for the processors...I was reading the stuff on "verified by intel" returns...

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Hey MRK, you dont need proof of purchase, and you DONT need to send it with the heatsink. Save yourself some shipping cost. I only sent in the CPU and they gave me a retail box in return so I had two heatsinks in the end lol.

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? Enclose a copy of this email with your returned products
? Fill out, print, and enclose a copy of the Reason for Return Form documenting the problem statement. You can find this at: http://www.intel.com/support/notebook/sb/CS-023449.htm
? Return ONLY the products approved for return as noted above. (Keep all accessories with you.) Intel will not return unauthorized products.
For a removal guide by Manufacturer product list please follow the instructions located here:

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Originally posted by mrk44:
bigwill: Thanks for the info. I got their email a little later with the stuff I need to know. I don't know what the one I got before was. The processor is boxed and ready to be shipped.

It's weird...they never asked for my proof of purchase at all.

And in the email, it says that the thing will go through a visual and functional screening process and if there is no defect found, the same one will just be returned to me.... This may be a problem, as mine works, it just doesn't work WELL (hot, messed up sensor?, came with marks on the top, etc.)....

EDIT: Wait never mind there is no screening process for the processors...I was reading the stuff on "verified by intel" returns...

Here's what you do right down the batch number off the box somewhere..it should be marked on the cpu also..I believe and when they send it back to you,,,u can tell if it's a different 1 the batch number is a born on date..

Let me know how it goe's i'm here to help much as possible on what..i know..I'm ready up on the New E8600..i don't care what people say it's my money to spend..that's the year. i graduated
1986..lol

@mrk44

Don't do that do what the tech whats you to do..your a first time builder..i don't want you to get all confused just do what intel saids..

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abuzar1,
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Hey MRK, you dont need proof of purchase, and you DONT need to send it with the heatsink. Save yourself some shipping cost. I only sent in the CPU and they gave me a retail box in return so I had two heatsinks in the end lol.

Five months back I sent my D-940 in for replacement under warranty! When you copied the above you should have gone down to the next paragraph!
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Optical Disk Drive (DVD and/or CDR)
Hard Disk Drive and bracket
Keyboard
Memory
Battery
WLAN NIC
AC Power adaptor
CPU with Thermal module
AC Power Cable
OS and customized SW

See the highlighted CPU with Thermal module? I also had to provide an Invoice from Newegg for the CPU, packed with the CPU and cooler. I had to give the Invoice Number over the phone, just to get the RMA #, and that was conditional on their approval when it got to them.

I certainly hope that things have changed! They'll try and tell you the warranty is void if you don't use their Cooler! Only if you are foolish enough to believe it! I told the guy I spoke to that there is no way that they could make that stick as there's far too much negative press about their cooler and it's very easy to prove that their cooler is inferior to the majority of After Market Coolers! As soon as I said that, the matter was dropped! It's much better to send it all in the box it came in as if there is any shipping damage, they can't very well complain about their original packaging! LOL!! Costs me $5 either way unless you use USPS, who frankly stink! Ask GM about that! LOL!! He'll confirm what I said about USPS! Suffice to say that they invent new ways to screw things up!

Best Regards,
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USPS inventing ways to screw us over? You dont say.

They once lost a 560 dollar video card of mine(thats a CRAP load of money on ONE video card) in the mail. I didn't insure it(my fault) but it hurt pretty bad.

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I'll just send the heatsink as well to be safe. It's not like I need two of them anyway seeing as they are s***, the guy asked if I'm using that too cool the cpu and I just said yes lol....

theonejrs: that list you posted is only if you are returning things called "verified by intel" notebooks, not intel products. At least that's what the email I got says. It doesn't say you have to send the heatsink, just the cpu is okay.
But I'm still going to send it just to be safe.

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@mrk44

just send it all like you got it..with a copy of the invoice to prove it yours and you payed for it..

@russ

i got my hands on a copy of Vista Ultimate 32-bit...sshhh for the low low price.. what is the different between the 32 and the 64..is it the memory it see like Xp does or what..i gonna read up on it..i wanna to hear your side first on the matter..cause that what i'm gonna use on the new built..Vista

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A 32bit OS will unfortunately only recognize around 3 and a half gigs of Ram. That's just how the technology is. 64bit can use up to 128GB. I'm still gonne stick with 32bit XP PRO for now.
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
A 32bit OS will unfortunately only recognize around 3 and a half gigs of Ram. That's just how the technology is. 64bit can use up to 128GB. I'm still gonne stick with 32bit XP PRO for now.
vista 64 can only use 128gb of ram but 64 bit architecture is limited to 16 exabytes or 17.2 billion gb.

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