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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 19:16 |
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3DMark isnt that effective for stress testing stuff though -- I ran a system through 4 or 5 rounds of complete tests and everything was superb ... only after using it regularly for another week or so did heat problems start to manifest.
You're prolly better off doing actual Stability Testing (i.e., Stability Tester 6.0 [Gilgamesh Build]) for 24 hours or so continuous. I dunno where you can download it anymore but if you'd like i could email it to you, leave me ur addy in a PM.
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1. June 2004 @ 19:32 |
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If you set 3dmark to really strenuous settings such as high color, high detail, 1600 X 1200 resolution, if it's got a problem it will groan. My systems is pretty fast and I was able to make it shudder usin 3dmark2003 in the nature scene.
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 20:32 |
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Yeah thats what I meant (i dont bother running it at 640x480 or 800x600 i mean 1280x1024 or higher) .. even then 3DMark only really stresses out the cpu and video subsystem and not so much the memory. There are some dedicated memory tests for that kinda stuff :)
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matty8887
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10. June 2004 @ 12:19 |
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My multiplier is set at 11x, i have a barton 3200+ i put it up to 12x but it wudnt start up except the 1st screen then it froze on the next. it works on 11.5x which is 2350mhz so wot shud i do. and how long does overclocking take off your cpu life.t ahnx alot.
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erichm
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10. June 2004 @ 12:28 |
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Hey Matty,
I have a suggestion. I have a processor very similar to yours. I have the barton 3000 with the 400mhz fsb. These chips do not overclock well at all. They get very hot and I think amd is pushing their rating a little too high. I have watercooled it and I could only squeez a couple hundred mhz out of it.
However, these chips can get you about 150 bucks on ebay. I would suggest getting a mobile 2400 or 2600 off of www.excaliberpc.com. I just hooked one up to my watercooling rig this morning and got 2.6 ghz rock solid stable. They are only 105 bucks for the good stepping IQYHA. You should ditch that 3200 and get the mobile.
I just got my vapochill so we will see if I can hit 3ghz.
Happy overclocking
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10. June 2004 @ 13:37 |
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The lower clocked bartons and the higher bartons have the same core and as a result they have the same top limitation and either can only be clocked to about a XP3200 . As a result the XP2500 will overclock to an XP3200 and the XP3000 will overclock to an XP3200. If you want to get more numbers out of a chip don't buy one that's close to the chips maximum limit.
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erichm
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10. June 2004 @ 13:40 |
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I agree totally
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Praetor
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10. June 2004 @ 13:47 |
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The lower clocked bartons and the higher bartons have the same core and as a result they have the same top limitation and either can only be clocked to about a XP3200 . As a result the XP2500 will overclock to an XP3200 and the XP3000 will overclock to an XP3200. If you want to get more numbers out of a chip don't buy one that's close to the chips maximum limit.
Then what might I ask the Barton3200s overclock to? Hehe ... the Barton core has an effective upper ceiling of approximately 2.5Ghz or so with forced air cooling.
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erichm
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10. June 2004 @ 13:53 |
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The mobiles on the other hand are a totally different story. These little guys are hand picked as the best. They nativley low operating voltage and low heat output give them a ton of headroom in the overclocking department.
I just saw that excalibure pc has updated their cpu's
You can now get the xp2400 mobile at 35w. These guys go really fast, you WILL get a really nice overclock with those.
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10. June 2004 @ 13:54 |
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You might be able to push the XP3200 a little more with good cooling but it's right at the top of its game. But the cores are the same in the XP2500 and the XP3200 that's why I put the XP2500 in my wifes PC and clocked it to an XP3200 and you did the same. All I was saying is that the XP2500 and XP3000 depending on individual chips have the same ceiling. That's one reason why Erichm could only get his to clock to an XP3200.
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10. June 2004 @ 18:06 |
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Missed the part about you getting a VapoChill I've been wanting one of those since I first saw them on Tomshardware.com. Oddly enough,is that now I can afford one and I'm just waiting for a few technological advances in CPUs, memory fsb speeds, and PCI Express to arrive.
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erichm
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11. June 2004 @ 06:17 |
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The vapochill will support a pci express motherboard. The evaporator block that attaches to the cpu is extremely flexible. You can bend it in 90 degree angles no problem.
The only problem I think it would have would be with a BTX motherboard. But I am not worried about that. I don't want to change my form factor because intel's cpu's run to hot. Besides the only advantage it gives is for the cool air on the bottom.
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cgram7
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12. June 2004 @ 06:22 |
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I realize that I'm a little late on this thread,but i was hoping someone would be willing to give advice I have a P4 (northwood)2.8 chip clocked @ 3.2. I had to reduce the ratio on my generic memory(no name 1024MB PC2700) from 4:5-1:1 to get it stable is there any other way of controlling Ram speed other than this? if i up the DDR voltage can i possibly get back to 4:5 or will i just fry it. thanks for any info.
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12. June 2004 @ 07:18 |
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I also have the P4 2.8 but at 3.149 with a high speed zalman heat sink/fan. I'm using Corsair Xtreme CAS2 PC 3200. I find that pushing the P4 any higher would require me to underclock my memory which isn't worth it for any small gains I might get if I have to set slower memory timings. My current memory settings are 2-3-2-6.
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Praetor
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12. June 2004 @ 08:46 |
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is there any other way of controlling Ram speed other than this? if I up the DDR voltage can I possibly get back to 4:5 or will I just fry it. thanks for any info.
Get back to 4:5 -- what do you have now? (i was going to suggest you set your ratio to 4:5 hehe -- if thats what it is you probably dont have much headroom left then)
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cgram7
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12. June 2004 @ 10:21 |
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I was at 4:5 by default but after overclocking the processor my pc was unstable a friend suggested changing the memory setting from 4:5 to 1:1 which is where im at now it seemed to have improved stability thus far but i hate to make that sacrifice. any thoughts on the voltage increase?
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Praetor
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12. June 2004 @ 13:52 |
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Nothing much anyone can tell you since OCing is specific to individual compoentns -- try it out, go slowly .... its a trial and error game! :)
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Rubiks
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18. June 2004 @ 22:07 |
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Hi, I'm new to the whole OCing thing. I just discovered it when i was searchin for a new cooling fan for my geforce 5200 which i have read that it can be overclocked to 300mhz. Is it worth overclocking my video card???
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Praetor
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19. June 2004 @ 07:11 |
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The GFX5200 is a budget card and typically doesnt ship at clock speeds which generate dangerous levels of heat which is why they dont have fans. If you do however get a GPU fan, sure, go for the OC -- you might as well squeeze as much performance from that card as you possibly can :) Furthermore, unless this has changed since their inception, the memory on the GFX5200 is identical to that used on its bigger brothers and so you can defintily OC that -- and do so stabily. You may want to get ramsinks for the video if the new HSF doesnt come with it.
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Rubiks
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19. June 2004 @ 15:24 |
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ok thanks, but my card did come with a fan bit it was not even worth nividia placing on the card because it barely blew any air. But i am going to get a new fan. And from reading previous articles on this website i have learned i sould probably just stay away from OCing my AMD athlon 2000+ Palomin.
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Praetor
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19. June 2004 @ 17:12 |
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But I am going to get a new fan.
If you want to go for it but unless you are intending to push the GFX5200 harder than it was intended to go, there isnt really a need for a fan :)
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And from reading previous articles on this website I have learned I sould probably just stay away from OCing my AMD athlon 2000+ Palomin.
You can if you want, just make sure you get some damn fine cooling on it. You should be able to get 1.70Ghz -1.8Ghz (up from the stock 1.67Ghz) but just make sure you get some cooling on that sucker. Them 0.18 micron chips will heatup pretty damn fast and you'll find that your motherboard will be shutting your computer down everytime you do something with the proc. I would reccomend at least a Volcano9+ or K7 Silentboost, equivalent or better. Visit the Offical Cooling for more ideas if you want to pursue this
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19. June 2004 @ 17:20 |
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Hmm! OC and cooling.
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Praetor
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19. June 2004 @ 17:35 |
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Is that a two slot deal? I saw that thing and my first reaction was: "dinky plastic" hehe. Certainly, one couldnt effectively mount it onto a heat monger like the 5800 could we?
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19. June 2004 @ 18:45 |
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It's an HIS EXCALIBUR ICEQ ATI 9800 PRO.
Takes up the AGP and 1 PCI slot for the fan to exaust. The card is a 2-3 pound almuminum brick with an ATI 9800 Pro bolted on top of it. It's the best video card cooling system yet, at least better than mine ever were. Even the memory chips have heat sinks. My core clock is at 432 and my memory is at 380.25 completely stable, and I'm ceratin I can still push it but I tend to be on the conservative side. It has a two speed fan that is almost inaudible. It's not quite and XT pro but it gets pretty close.
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Praetor
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19. June 2004 @ 20:12 |
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Bummmer... i want a loud fan :'(
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