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19. June 2004 @ 20:25 |
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Buy that case with the 15 plus 5.25 bays and dual redundant 350W power supplies, cram it full of noisy hard disks that you'll have to keep cooled with perhaps even more than the current 25 fans you're using and you'll get loud. LOL
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rhohan
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20. June 2004 @ 15:24 |
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i just setup a dual amd athlon xp thorton system, running @2.4 ghz on an msi 6501 (k7d master-l). it has muskin blue series 2100. dual volcano 11 cooling fans.
the mod of the thortons weren't too hard. if anyone wants to know how.. pm me. it's kewl..
i had stability issues with it when i was running a 350 watt ps. i moved up to 500 watt antec ps and i'm styling !! this thing out performs my hyperthreading p4 running at 3.0 ghz on every test..(except ghz intensive things like mp3 encoding..). having 2 physical procs is WAYYYYY better than hyperthreading.. any day :)
i'm just looking forward to the dual athlon 64 boards and pci express :)
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Praetor
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20. June 2004 @ 20:27 |
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21. June 2004 @ 11:59 |
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Praetor were do you get your graphics cards from?
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Praetor
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21. June 2004 @ 14:50 |
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From a local retailer I know .... actually considerin going into business selling computers and stuff... the prices for resale are really nice .... but let's get back on topic... this thread is for OCing not random hardware/mods discussion
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WonderBra
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22. June 2004 @ 20:35 |
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So I've noticed that this is mainly a 'post your OC'ing results' type of forum. I've never OC'd anything and I want to, any suggestions or tutorials?
What I'm running:
CPU: AMD 3200+ Athlon XP Barton 400MHz FSB
RAM: 512GB Corsair XMS Ultra DDR400 PC3200
MOBO: Soyo SY-KT600 Dragon Ultra Platinum
GFX: LeadTek GeForce4 FX5900 Ultra 256MB
HDs: Wester Digital 120GB SATA 8MB Buffer
7200rpm x 2 @ RAID 0
DVD: DVD+/-RW LiteOn LDS-451S
Thanks for any help that is provided :)
-Bra
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This might solve that problem:
http://www.3dcool.com/?module=product&sku=SSA1
I'm assuming this would work on my processor? I will have to check, as the site says for the correct processor(that the model number starts with ?AXDA?) I will have to check that at a later time when I can shut my PC down :(
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22. June 2004 @ 20:43 |
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Unless you are for some reason unhappy and I can't think of why (Praetor might), leave it alone.
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22. June 2004 @ 21:12 |
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WonderBra
What kind of cooling do you have on that baby? Depending on the cooling on that thing I'd reckon you can hit 2.4-ish Ghz with it :)
You have any spreaders on that ram too? :)
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I'm assuming this would work on my processor? I
I have no idea lol, I would imagine so however
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Unless you are for some reason unhappy and I can't think of why (Praetor might), leave it alone.
Not OCing for performance sake but just to learn or to have fun with your stuff :)
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WonderBra
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23. June 2004 @ 04:01 |
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You have any spreaders on that ram too? :)
I'm assuming you mean heat spreaders? Yes, it came with it installed on it.
CPU: AMD 3200+ Athlon XP Barton 400MHz FSB
RAM: 512GB Corsair XMS Ultra DDR400 PC3200
MOBO: Soyo SY-KT600 Dragon Ultra Platinum
GFX: LeadTek GeForce4 FX5900 Ultra 256MB
HDs: Wester Digital 120GB SATA 8MB Buffer
7200rpm x 2 @ RAID 0
DVD: DVD+/-
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JSRife
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23. June 2004 @ 04:26 |
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I have an AMD 1800+ Processor running 1.53ghz...Something like that. How much over clocking could I do to it safely? up to 2000+ stats? more? less?
Jason Rife
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Praetor
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23. June 2004 @ 05:44 |
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WonderBra
I was more concerned with the CPU cooling as that's more relevent to the CPU OCing, memory cooling while nice isnt an absolute requirement :)
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Nothing much anyone can tell you since OCing is specific to individual compoentns -- try it out, go slowly .... its a trial and error game! :)
What procesor is that? The Palo or Tbred? With the Palo, i dont think youll be getting past 1.70Ghz (which is just shy of XP2100). With the Tbred you should be in the 1.8Ghz range which is XP2200 territory
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WonderBra
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23. June 2004 @ 05:47 |
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I've just got the retail fan that amd sends out with their processors. I want to get something more, but haven't looked for anything yet.
CPU: AMD 3200+ Athlon XP Barton 400MHz FSB
RAM: 512GB Corsair XMS Ultra DDR400 PC3200
MOBO: Soyo SY-KT600 Dragon Ultra Platinum
GFX: LeadTek GeForce4 FX5900 Ultra 256MB
HDs: Wester Digital 120GB SATA 8MB Buffer
7200rpm x 2 @ RAID 0
DVD: DVD+/-
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erichm
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23. June 2004 @ 06:13 |
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Praetor
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23. June 2004 @ 06:51 |
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Prolly belongs more under cooling but kewl! Good job on the Al-Cu combo :)
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23. June 2004 @ 08:08 |
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That's a god fan I've been using for a while now and I do a lot of video encoding and it keeps m chip well below temp specs.
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JSRife
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23. June 2004 @ 08:39 |
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I thought about overclocking just a little bit...Not a whole lot...If I can get it up to 1.70ghz that is fine.....Don't know what processor ....it's an 1800+ Athlon...I got this at Wal-mart for $498, it's a budget PC, so which every one of those processors is the cheapest is probably what I got right?
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23. June 2004 @ 08:46 |
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Usuaully inexpensive computers have OK processors. Where they save money is with integrated gaphics, audio, and inexpensive Memory. Athough it's possible I would say that it's highly unlikely that your system can be overclocked.
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Praetor
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23. June 2004 @ 10:07 |
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Since AMD is the only ones who make AMD chips, your chip will be of the normal quality as any other AMD chip (i.e., QC is maintained). Thus, the limiting factor (for OCing) from the chip isnt any different than any other AMD chip but rather, as Sophocles mentioned, more likely to be limited to the motherboard. Since it's a Walmart PC i'm guessing you have an ECS board in there -- certainly not an OCers board... you might be able to squeze a bit of OC out of that mobo but i highly doubt it.
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JSRife
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24. June 2004 @ 08:49 |
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Yeah alot of my friends laugh at me for buying a PC from Wal-mart. I think I got a pretty good deal on this thing, bought it over a year and a half ago, and the same $498 Computer they offer now isn't really all that different then the one I have now. The only differences I really see are the newer model comes with a little more memory 256mb standard, which mine came with a 128mb chip, and mine has the 1800+ processor the new deal comes with something around 2200+ processor or something comparable through Intel's Celeron line. I'm guessing the newer budget machine can only take a max memory of 1 gig, and it comes with all Intergrated Video And Audio like mine. The difference is, the Budget computer Wal-mart Sells today is a Compaq, which is the same as HP now, the Compaq sure looks nice though, nice case. My next computer is going to be Hand Built by me, I'm no expert on the matter, but I did put memory in my machine before which is easy as 1-2-3, and have a good understanding of a computer. My Friends tell me to hold off on getting a new computer right now because of the 64bit Processors coming out by AMD, soon Pentium will have 64big Processors and they tell me that would be the time to upgrade...They tell me it's a waste to upgrade to a 32bit system when the 64's are going to be taking over within the next year or so. Might be some truth in that. My friends also tell me, it ends up costing you more money building your own computer, they say quote " You can buy a good Sony Vaio Computer with everything you need for a cheaper price already put together" Would never buy a Sony Computer though, don't like em. Wouldn't you agree buying an already built computer you're not going to get the highest quality guts inside? (Video) (Sound) Cards, Motherboard, and so on... I really like those Computer cases that have the clear sides to them, so you can see everything in your computer. If I'm spending $200-$400 on a video card, I want to see the thing work, I want to see the trophy piece inside. I have alot to learn about computers, I could probably write a book on everything I don't know about them. Been in the Computer game for about 6 years now, and it's cool to keep learning more and more about them. I am a up and coming computer geek, or better yet a computer geek who still has more to learn, if that is possible. The only thing I don't like about it is...You spend all this money on a Kick ass video card, Sound Card, Motherboard, DVD Burner and so on, within a year or so everything you bought and thought was top of the line is now outdated and stuff is out that is 3 times quicker and better...Sad isn't it...Bassically you cannot keep up with it, unless you got the money to do it.
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erichm
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24. June 2004 @ 09:02 |
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Your freind couldn't be more wrong about building your own computer. You have to really dig deep and understand exaclty what is in these computers you buy off of the shelf.
The motherboard is most likely crap, with no overclocking options, no sata, it will be missing a lot of features.
The ram will be no name ram really cheap stuff.
My dad went and bought a brand new dell from cosco for 2400 dollars. When I found out about this I marched him right back to return it.
I built him a watercooled rig inside of the new coolermaster wavemaster case. Using swiftech blocks and radiator and a enhiem 320gph pump. We put an abit ic7-max 3 with a p4 2.8 ghz processor. 1 gig of corsair ram (pc3200@2,2,2,5). a 200 gig sata hardrive and a 9800 pro. I gave him my old 19" monitor and he was ready to go.
The total cost came to about 1800 dollars with shipping and tax.
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Praetor
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24. June 2004 @ 10:14 |
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I think I got a pretty good deal on this thing, bought it over a year and a half ago, and the same $498 Computer they offer now isn't really all that different then the one I have now.
The key thing is you think you got a good deal -- imagine the deal Walmart got. One can get a decent XP2500/A78V8X-X/Ti4400/80GB/512MB system for $350 and that system will quite easily toast anything coming out of Walmart.
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I'm guessing the newer budget machine can only take a max memory of 1 gig, and it comes with all Intergrated Video And Audio like mine.
Integrated video is a bad thing and in most cases, integrated audio is bad too (the only exception is the nForce2's Soundstorm).
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My Friends tell me to hold off on getting a new computer right now because of the 64bit Processors coming out by AMD, soon Pentium will have 64big Processors and they tell me that would be the time to upgrade...They tell me it's a waste to upgrade to a 32bit system when the 64's are going to be taking over within the next year or so.
Either your friends are rich, snotty, uninformed or talking purely theoretically about stuff ... they are (kinda) wrong. True, 64bit systems will probably be the thing for 2005 -- but thats only for people who have a use for it. I see all these friggen AMD fans who play games all day long touting that their chips support 64bit stuff -- they dont use nor know what 64bit apps are available! 64bit stuff for the most part will be pretty much for the insanely rich or those who have specific uses for a desktop 64bit platform (i.e., video compositing, mathematica etc). Your friends are right in saying "wait" but for the wrong reasons -- when the 64bit chips "get here", there will hopefully be a drop in prices for thr 32bit chips -- thats a good reason to wait.
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My friends also tell me, it ends up costing you more money building your own computer, they say quote " You can buy a good Sony Vaio Computer with everything you need for a cheaper price already put together"
Forget what I said in the above paragraph about your friends.... the words rich and ignorant come to mind now hehe. As erichm said -- they couldnt be more wrong -- if they were right, how the hell does Sony make money off these systems?
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Would never buy a Sony Computer though, don't like em.
w00t! Booo sony :P
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Wouldn't you agree buying an already built computer you're not going to get the highest quality guts inside? (Video) (Sound) Cards, Motherboard, and so on... I really like those Computer cases that have the clear sides to them, so you can see everything in your computer
Depends on what you buy and from whom -- there are good OEM systems but usually for a pretty penny. And as for the clear windows ... god unless you are absolutely nutz of the windows -- make sure you have decent parts to back up the "bling bling" factor hehe.... cant tell you how many times my dumbass leet friends have a bling-bling case with a GF4MX or a 9200SE inside.
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The only thing I don't like about it is...You spend all this money on a Kick ass video card, Sound Card, Motherboard, DVD Burner and so on, within a year or so everything you bought and thought was top of the line is now outdated and stuff is out that is 3 times quicker and better...Sad isn't it...Bassically you cannot keep up with it, unless you got the money to do it.
Shouldnt come as a surprise -- just like everything else in life.
HOWEVER, this thread was opened for the sole purpose of dealing with stories and help for OVERCLOCKING -- not system and parts selection/critiques -- there are threads established for those. So let's stay on topic.
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erichm
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24. June 2004 @ 10:20 |
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Praetor is absolutly right about the 64 bit applications. I know a guy that went out and paid
750 bucks for the 3200 as soon as it came out.
He still hasn't used the processor (he doesn't have
the money to buy other parts) and the price has plumeted. Even when he does get it working my mobile
2500 is going to whoop it at 2.7 ghz.
I am not saying that they are bad chips, but when you buy it for the sole purpose of 64 bit you are really being sucked into their marketing strategy.
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Praetor
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24. June 2004 @ 10:31 |
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Even when he does get it working my mobile 2500 is going to whoop it at 2.7 ghz.
You got a 900Mhz OC from that chip?
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erichm
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24. June 2004 @ 10:41 |
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Yes
-6 degrees full load with vapochill pe.
I can even push it further if I wanted.
I just got the chip and the vapochill and
I want to make sure I have zero condensation
before going further. So far so good though.
By the way. If you are looking for a vapochill
I got mine off ebay for 500 bucks in perfect condition
I see them there all the time.
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1. July 2004 @ 03:29 |
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I hope you guys can help me with a self inflicted wound. I just tried to overclock my Athlon xp 2500+ (barton). I set the fsb at 180 to give a clock speed of 2Ghz and increased the cpu voltage from 1.65 to 1.7. when i saved and exited cmos my pc rebooted but my monitor will not come on. When i turn it on manually it just says 'no input signal or cable disconnected'. Is this at all familiar to anyone? Extremely grateful for any help.
My setup is thus:
AOpen ak79d-400vn nforce ultra 400 mb
Athlon xp 2500+
Cooler Master cpu fan
512mb kingmax pc3500 ddr sdram
Samsung 52x52x32 cdrw
160gb maxtor ata 133
geforce fx 5600 graphics
generic 430W psu
generic case
Tiny plug and play 17" monitor
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