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7. November 2009 @ 22:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well then it simply improved performance because now I'm hitting 60 in some spots with a minimum of 35-40.



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You guys and your crossfires :( ← Jealous



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Ok, weird, it did work that time. Not sure what I did the last time. Performance is up, and by exactly as much as I expected. When standing around not doing anything fps is 60-62, in firefights is 47-54. Not exactly smooth as the game doesn't take lower frame rates well, but it's certainly playable now at last. However, the exe namechange doesn't fix the graphical corruption crossfire brings. With luck, a genuine crossfire profile will fix that.



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Originally posted by sam:
Speed reader + 5000 word essay doesn't equal speed finished :P
LOL Hey, skim does not only apply to milk!

Originally posted by Estuansis:
I've fired M16's, AR15's, and AK-47's in real life too. All semi-automatic of course.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about all those Montana militias. Jeff, where?d you get all those guns from, dude!

Hey in real life, is the AK as powerful as it is in Counter Strike?

Originally posted by Jeff:
I myself have a Ruger .357 Magnum my uncle gave me for Christmas, and a Chinese AK-47 with a folding stock and a 71 round drum. And a few deer/target rifles, a Marlin 30-30, a Winchester 7mm Magnum, and a Ruger .22 with a 10 round rotary magazine.

Hmmmm. We have here an expert.

Ok, is the Deagle a 357 magnum? Sam said he liked the magnum a lot in the demo - I say the same - it rules. You can take out a charger with four shots. Is the demo fairly accurate on the power of a 357?

Originally posted by Sam:
Ah, US gun culture, and how I will never understand it...

Well, it's you limeys that are to blame. Ol king whoever said "no right to bear arms!" so we revolutionists had to do the opposite - "right to bear all the goddamn arms you can possibly fit in Jeff's gun rack!" :P

Originally posted by shaff:
yet oh how i want to be part of it
Why does it not surprise me that "top xfire gun of all time" shaff would say that :P

Originally posted by Jeff:
Take caution around them, unload your magazines, make sure a round isn't chambered, and dry fire it down range before packing it up. Carry them in the trunk and in the cases when not using them and they're perfectly safe too.
Yeah, those atomic bombs over in Shaff's parent's home country are perfectly safe too, lol.

Originally posted by sam:
Reading a few articles, it looks like nvidia have pulled the plug on the Lucid Hydra. Back to the drawing board for my upgrade plans then I guess :(

Essentially, since the Hydra will cost nvidia huge amounts of money due to not needing the SLI tax to allow SLI, they have decided to bribe MSI into cancelling the program. To cover this up, they have seemlessly swapped the MSI Big Bang for the 'trinergy' and 'fuzion' boards, the trinergy being 'released shortly' and the fusion 'pushed back to Q1 2010 to perfect drivers' - considering the drivers already work, one would think that Lucid would want the board out for initial hubbub and then perfect them totally later on - after all, that's what all the other companies in the industry do.
The real cringe here is that the Trinergy board does not actually exist, the image of it is a photoshopped version of the Fuzion board. To get the nforce 200 onto the P55GD80 will take a new design to be brought up - by the looks of things MSI only accepted the bribe recently, and the Trinergy board has obviously yet to be designed.
Q1 2010 is enough of a pushback for the Fuzion to quietly push it back again, and then finally axe it when people lose interest.
It's times like this when I sort of wish the more corrupt companies out there would just hurry up and go bankrupt, they're halfway there already...
Wow, I was just gonna ask how Lucid is doing with that big bang. Hmmmm.

Originally posted by shaff:
any proof on what your are saying?
To which sam provides a great link. VERY INTERESTING!!!! I saved the link and I will speed read it and skim it later - not today - today is game day!! Nice work Sam!

Originally posted by jeff:
Is our entire economy really run by such idiots?
You have to have the entire story to really judge whether or not they are idiots. As one who has gone through two years of 3 case studies a day - these decisions involve working capital, market forecasts, incipient technologies on the horizon, plant capacity, and all manner of variables. And then, ultimately, you may be right - some of these guys may be idiots!

Jeff, I see Kevin is thanking you for the advice about the xbox controller - I'll end up getting one too I'm sure! (Now that you guys finally clued me in that it's a PC add-on product.)

Originally posted by Jeff:
Dudes, I'm trying so hard to hate Borderlands for its non working multiplayer and lack of AA support but I love it so much. It's EXACTLY like Diablo in FPS form. So addicting XD

Not to mention the graphics don't really need AA too badly. The game looks very sharp and the cel shaded visuals are done perfectly. Doesn't look like a comic book, obviously a 3D game in the Unreal Engine, but sometimes it looks like a painting. Very visually striking and quite high res friendly :)
Wow! High praise coming from a true graphics aficionado. Maybe we'll be privileged to get the Jeff "special review" one day.

Hmmmm. Now wait a second, isn't that the game Sam was in when he refused to join me last Wednesday in the L4D2 demo "No Rich, already beat that an hour ago on expert with a bot and health pack left over - moved on by now - leaving you behind to eat my dust!"

Originally posted by sam:
The real big hitter though is just how much nvidia coded out ATI GPUs from playing the game. Arkham Asylum was the first title to really show this, but Borderlands is worse, much worse.

Yeah, maybe it WAS. Those evil nvidia guys again, up to their old tricks!
Originally posted by sam:
having to run it at 17" resolution or less until I buy an nvidia card is obviously a bit of a tease
Hmmm. You used the word "until." That's several times now you have hinted about buying an nvidia product!

Originally posted by Jeff:
Try renaming it Bioshock.exe. This just got Crossfire working for me :D

Originally posted by Sam:
Ok, weird, it did work that time. Not sure what I did the last time. Performance is up, and by exactly as much as I expected.
God, how am I going to remember all these tricks when I build the new rig???

Ok, got to go - I'll be on steam all day today if anybody cares.

Boozer, if you pop in again in the next few weeks - tell us about those cars you bought!

Shokz - I was thinking of you the other day, a possible client is moving to Sydney for three years. I said "Oh, everybody rides kangaroos right?" and they thought I was stupid. Were you lying to me, Shokz? :P

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Is the demo fairly accurate on the power of a 357?
Well, how many shots does it take to kill a charger in real life?
Originally posted by Rich:
Well, it's you limeys that are to blame. Ol king whoever said "no right to bear arms!" so we revolutionists had to do the opposite - "right to bear all the goddamn arms you can possibly fit in Jeff's gun rack!" :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0yn23wXtbw
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To which sam provides a great link. VERY INTERESTING!!!! I saved the link and I will speed read it and skim it later - not today - today is game day!! Nice work Sam!
Great link no. Controversial link certainly.
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Hmmm. You used the word "until." That's several times now you have hinted about buying an nvidia product!
I've hinted at it several times. When there's one worth buying I probably will. Going to be waiting a long time for that though...



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Oh, yeah, I forgot about all those Montana militias. Jeff, where?d you get all those guns from, dude!

Hey in real life, is the AK as powerful as it is in Counter Strike?
;P I'll never tell. Only that they're legally purchased and naught more.

The AK is indeed powerful and somewhat accurate but the M16 is MUCH lighter and more accurate.

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Ok, is the Deagle a 357 magnum? Sam said he liked the magnum a lot in the demo - I say the same - it rules. You can take out a charger with four shots. Is the demo fairly accurate on the power of a 357?
There are two versions of the Desert Eagle. One is indeed a .357 but one is a .50 Caliber ;P

The Smith and Wesson .357 from Half Life 2 is the most accurate representation of the 357 magnum. Aside from it blasting guys back(which MIGHT be possible) its sound, killing power and recoil are fairly accurate. My friend with the M16s has the same exact gun from the game except that the sight posts are red, and even he says that it's pretty much the same. I suppose my Ruger is much the same thing but it doesn't have a rotating drum. You need to load each round individually.



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Hahahaha. The right to have a pair of bear arms hanging on your wall! Good one Sam!!

In real life, how many magnum shots to shoot a charger? I don't know, let's ask Jeff.

Here's the gun expert now:

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There are two versions of the Desert Eagle. One is indeed a .357 but one is a .50 Caliber ;P
Thanks Jeff, very interesting. So have you played the L4D2 demo, and if so, would you guess 357 or 50 caliber? Just curious since I'm gonna buy one tomorrow to support the second amendment, and since Sam can't go buy one because of king whatshisname. :P

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I suppose my Ruger is much the same thing but it doesn't have a rotating drum. You need to load each round individually.
So you're saying it is not a revolver. You actually have to take each bullet and chamber it one at a time like an old-fashioned rifle? Interesting. What's the caliber of the Ruger?

Oh, last thing, are we going to change this to the After Dawn Official American 2nd Amendment Rifle and Gun Thread?

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im jsut gonna have a one minute silnce on how MW2 has killed every game out there.



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Rich I worded that wrong. My Ruger is a 357 Magnum(basically a 38 special with a huge amount of power) and IT IS a six round revolver. But the drum doesn't swing out so it doesn't facilitate for speed loaders. So in the traditional sense, no it's not a true wild west revolver, but it actually is still a revolver... if that makes sense... You have to pull back a small slide, push the bullet in, and when you release the slide the drum rotates around to the next chamber. Lather, rinse, repeat. It can actually be loaded quite fast and there are some cases of gun slingers using this type of loading, but the swing out drum made for speed loading is quicker and easier.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Deagle in L4D2 is a 50 cal considering the amount of ammo normally needed to take the charger down...



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Aye, a one minute silence marking the end of an era - multiplayer tactical real-world FPS games on PC.



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I'm obviously missing something here @_@ Did they make it too arcadey or something? Forgive my transgression, I haven't gotten it yet. Is the single player at least as kick ass as it looked??



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The SP looks amazing from what I've seen so far, and Shaff is very impressed. However, unless you don't read any gaming news journals you'll realise COD6 has begun the slow painful death of multiplayer tactical FPS on the PC.
and remember children:
There IS no PC multiplayer for Modern Warfare 2.
I do not want to hear otherwise. Otherwise is heresy!



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So basically it's devolved back into old school deathmatch to satisfy the "Casual" market? Stop speaking in riddles and give me the story and your opinion XD

Oh yeah just for the record my Battlefield 2 clan is still alive and kicking. There are always loads of full matches available. Not to mention BF 2142 which half of my clan also plays. So maybe the end of any decent new ones, but nowhere near the death.



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No, it's not devolved into oldskool DM, it's just ruined PC multiplayer gaming:


After the demise of the COD series, Battlefield is now carrying the tactical FPS franchise, but how long for? This is EA after all...



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Ugh good thing I never played CoD4 MP to begin with. Not my kind of PvP game :P

I have a feeling any true CoD'ers will be sticking with 4 if they need MP. I'm more about the single player campaign because that is the true bread and butter of the Call of Duty series and always has been. PC gaming is also their bread and butter but it seems they hate everyone who made them famous to begin with. If it weren't for PC gamers, CoD would have been just another WWII game in the post 2000 flood. Infinity Ward would have faded into obscurity.

If the single player turns out anywhere near as awesome as the previews though, I will be judging it based solely on that.

Though the best CoD for me is easily CoD2. One of the few single player games that I still pay often(at least once a week) this long after release...



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well i meant it killed off MP gaming for FPS, yeah.

now ID software (DOOM, RAGE etc) want to use P2P connections for MP aswell. most likely all big games are going to go up in price aswell.

i picked it up for £26 for the PS3 version (only £2 more than PC) for the SP. was bloody brilliant. (well gfx wernt, they were under cod4 maxed out, on pc at 1920) (i played at 1920 on the ps3 but it being upscaled so much that jaggies were insane).

BUT, and its a major but, the SP is mind blowingly good. i have never been a SP person, just MP, and this game has me untill i finished it form start, no breaks. its so gripping and riviting! action packed from the first mission to the last.



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I played COD4 multiplayer and enjoyed it, but I was put off because of the gamebreaking holes in the realism of it. You can stealth up to the guys and keep yourself hidden, scope and try and pick them off for a distance, but ultimately, in the 100+ games I've had, well over 90% of them I was massively more successful when I just turned up and sprayed bullets like nobody's business. That shouldn't work. If you're going to go for everything else in the game to be right, hipfire accuracy being off the scale is disappointing, and that's beforethe steady aim perk. I bought COD4 because I loved the single player, and because owning the game legitimately only made it almost impossible to play online without getting kicked by buggy punkbuster, not actually impossible.
Quite frankly though, even though I would happily have paid £15 or so for the SP alone in COD6 since I'm sure it's excellent, I refuse to, simply on the back of Activision's corporate attitude now.
Fact is, P2P connections do work if everybody has fastpath LLU or low-contention LLU broadband, a nation of gamers all using premium grade ISPs would work. Fact is though, that will never happen. The high customer proportion from companies like BT, AOL, TalkTalk and so on (and let's not forget the lack of LLU-enabled exchanges in large parts of the UK) prevent that from ever being the case until the whole country is on fibre. A long time to wait for not-laggy games.
If you want a dedicated server for a game, why shouldn't you have one? A few of us are now willing to hire dedicated servers just for the purpose of hosting multiplayer games, but this is the problem, it's not just that the game developers aren't providing ded servers, they're banning 3rd party ded servers as well. The idea behind this being they don't have any unscrupulous server mods to deal with that could cause hacks. The reality of it is that there's only one hack-protection system, client-side, making it easier to hack and ruin what little of the gameplay experience was left.

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You sound surprised.... :S



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Lucid Hydra update
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/17934/3


Is Hydra's performance up to scratch: Yes
Does nvidia play a role in the Hydra delay: Doesn't look like it
Is Hydra's delay due to drivers validated: Yes

Should we expect Hydra on shelves in the future: Looking good

Disappointingly or otherwise, nvidia + nvidia works, so SLI is now functional on P55 with good bandwidth without nforce chipsets, and amazingly, nvidia + ATI works really well too, so the most difficult hurdle has been jumped. The big issue actually comes in the form of ATI + ATI, where scaling has not worked too well at all. This is evidently what they're holding back to fix, and just as well I suppose, since had I bought a Hydra around now, I would be worse off for it.


Something worth bearing in mind, these tests were conducted with Lucid's on prototyping motherboard, not the MSI BigBang-Fuzion.



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Hydra looks promising though I'm in no hurry to upgrade. Currently Crossfire seems to be the best bet for ATi cards. I intend to eventually upgrade to 5870s or the like but not for a good long while. I haven't found a single game yet besides Crysis that requires that sort of power. Really for once, I have absolutely no itch for new hardware. I run everything maxed over 60FPS in 95% of my games. All of my favorites can be maxed with AA and run flawlessly.



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The only thing that concerns me about the Hydra is how well it will integrate with X2 cards, since they will still rely on crossfire to run, and I'm not sure if that'll conflict with Hydra or not.
I like to think I run a considerable number of games out there, and there are a lot of titles that even four 4870 GPUs struggle to run at 2560x1600. That's partly the QCF scaling, but a lot of it is just due to how demanding games are now in the age of slacky console ports. There are numerous games out there which I can't run at 60fps maxed out, quite a few that are still laggy at 1920x1200. I won't be saying not to a performance upgrade for a long time to come yet. Quite frankly, two 5970s worth of GPU power isn't going to be sufficient for long.
Sad fact is, besides Borderlands, which is only demanding because it's biased, the most fun games aren't that demanding. Left 4 Dead is probably the most demanding game I play on a regular basis, and two 4870X2s have it covered (just - 8xAA isn't perfect). I will also need more CPU power than a 3400mhz Yorkfield can provide quite soon, hence the i5 and Lucid as a complete package.



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I wonder about the performance levels for Cod4 MW2. Is it so mindblowingly awesome I might need an upgrade? That's a case where I would consider it. I understand 2560 x 1600 is a different story though.



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I doubt it, it seemed pretty fluid for me in the brief intro I played.



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See my point? I bet it will run similarly to CoD4 and if it's anywhere near it will be at least 60FPS maxed with AA for me. The truly good games are all decent anyway. BTW Bioshock.exe did work for me on Arkham Asylum as well. My framerate is locked at 62FPS with 4xAA.

I can run pretty much every new game out maxed and the few I can't are basically broken anyway. Why upgrade for a few broken games when the ones I play the most run maxed no problem? Even Crysis is easily doable for me. Though I use custom settings I run average of 40FPS with graphics nearly indistinguishable from DX10 very high.



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To be fair, the HD4870X2 is the perfect companion to maxing COD4, HL2:E2 and L4D at 1920x1200. Four of them are the perfect companion for maxing them at 2560x1600.
Not tried Arkham Asylum yet, but it's on the list. Figures since they're all Unreal engine games.

Don't forget though, newer engine games like Dawn of War 2, Fallout 3, Far Cry 2 and the rest are more demanding than the others. Keeping a minimum frame rate of 60 (my current goal for all but silly demanding games) is easy with two 2008 gen cards for all the Xmas07 engine games with the exception of Crysis. This actually includes Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance too.
The 2008 generation games however, require a bit more than that. Crysis would of course require the equivalent of 5 HD5870s, so that's a bit silly (unless you can use the Lucid Hydra to run three 5970s, two of them would be at 8x though :S), but Dawn of War 2 requires the equivalent of 3 HD5870s (I say equivalent as CF scaling in it is poor), STALKER Clear Sky would need 3 HD5850s even on just High with no AA, and Fallout 3 requires two HD5870s (this all for 2560x1600 of course). Even at 1920x1200, it's three 5870s, two 5850s, a 5850+4890 pairing and a 4890 respectively. The only reason Fallout 3 is given only a single 4890 at 1920x1200 is because the CPU ceiling is 47fps.

Edit: I messed it up, the minimum fps of CPU ceiling card for Fallout 3 at 1920x1200 with AA is the HD4870X2 or HD5870. Without AA it's an HD4890.


Rather disappointingly, the HD5970 is actually going to be an HD5860X2 not the HD5870X2 we may have been expecting. It will feature the additional shaders that the HD5870 GPUs feature, but a lower clock speed, at 725mhz. The going theory is the power consumption is too high, however, that is certainly false as the HD5870 uses no more powerful than the HD4870 they managed a dual card of with power to spare. The real reason I suspect is to improve silicon yields of the 40nm process sufficiently to provide enough stock for the HD5970 to get off the ground. The downside of course is that this means the HD5970 could actually be perilously close to the potentially still up and coming GTX300 series card. On top of this, the HD5970 is expected to RRP at a higher than previous generation £449 or $599. Long story short, the HD5970 is marginally better than two HD5850s, and costs about that much.
The good news is that rumour has it, the card is unveiled to the masses on Monday.



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HAHA just got my hands on Modern Warfare 2!!! Will be back with impressions on the game :D



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