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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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26. March 2009 @ 15:02 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Nah, Oman7 has overtaken you in the exclamation mark awards; as i say i don't do excitement but i amuse myself at other peoples' expense as i'm a cheapskate :)
Is that so!!! LOL. :D
Well...I get my baby tomorrow. The velociraptor 150gb that is. I cant wait to bench the living &^%&#* out of it! LOL!
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26. March 2009 @ 15:16 |
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creaky, cheapskate is an understatement!!!
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27. March 2009 @ 02:30 |
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@ Russ,
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Creaky was talking about me with the exclamations! LOL!! Did you happen to see LP inder that rock! I started an AMD building thread several months ago. LP wasn't around then, but where were you! Ha Ha!
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/719940/4584150-409031
I'm going to direct this conversation to it from now on!
Russ
Just been busy...with business...
I'm surprised Creaky didn't say anything about my use of...
Ok...I need some case suggestions...if I am going to keep this i7...
I am looking at the Silverstone...or possibly a Mountain Mod...
I need a unique case...something to get me excited about this build again...
This is the one I like the most...with the black wrinkle finish...No Windows...Mountain Mod Pinnacle18
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27. March 2009 @ 07:56 |
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Very interested, omegaman. If it turns out well, I may well buy one myself.
Lp: i7s are relatively hot CPUs, but you're sorted as long as you get a good cooler, and have a large rear and top fan. There are several cases that can do that, as low down as the Antec 900 or NZXT Tempest. I absolutely rely on having side fans to cool powerful graphics cards and strongly recommend anyone with a game system to do the same, but if it's only the CPU you're spending for, any case like that Mountain Mod will do.
In other news, my Server's Stock heatsink fan keeps speeding up. It used to have a max speed of around 2000rpm. Today it nudged 2800rpm. Perhaps a bit over-zealous for a CPU temp of 39ºC...
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27. March 2009 @ 14:55 |
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@Sam,
I will have them add a side fan...No Window...just a fan...maybe a 250mm instead of a 120...that would give it...(8) 120mm and (1) 250mm...
I think I am going to get the Mountain Mod...so far it is the only case that gets me excited...
I really like the heavy gauge aluminum construction...with the black wrinkle finish...it should be virtually mar proof...
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27. March 2009 @ 15:51 |
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Im goin in!!! LOL. Just got my Veloci. Have just enough time before work to run a couple bench marks! Little disappointed with the way newegg packed it though. In my opinion, both the HDD and the ODD should have been packed in the middle of the foam, NOT on top! They must have kids working for them. You know...the ones that dont give a ....
I work at UPS though. The box looks like it was treated well. Believe it or not, the percentage of damages that go through our hubs are extremely low! Infact at our hub its probably about 1/25-50,000 pkgs. So the odds of it happening to you or I is NOT very good.
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27. March 2009 @ 15:55 |
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If there's one thing I do see Newegg criticised for, it's packaging. Fortunately all the drives I've bought usually come sandwiched in foam.
As for UPS, I think a fair few aD users would beg to differ, it's not how they are as they arrive at the hub, it's how they're treated on the way to their final destination that people moan about, and trust me, there are a lot of 'don't use UPS, use FedEx' comments on Newegg. Far more than the reverse. This is merely subjective, Not being a US citizen I can't comment personally (or, with any bias).
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27. March 2009 @ 17:31 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
If there's one thing I do see Newegg criticised for, it's packaging. Fortunately all the drives I've bought usually come sandwiched in foam.
As for UPS, I think a fair few aD users would beg to differ, it's not how they are as they arrive at the hub, it's how they're treated on the way to their final destination that people moan about, and trust me, there are a lot of 'don't use UPS, use FedEx' comments on Newegg. Far more than the reverse. This is merely subjective, Not being a US citizen I can't comment personally (or, with any bias).
Sam,
To be completely honest here, it depends on where you are located. Here, FedEx totally sucks. Someone there, stole a CM Cavalier case I ordered, only to have it show up in the back of one of their trucks one morning, about 20 days after FedEx started a 21 day investigation into the missing case. It was delivered the same day as the replacement that Newegg sent me, with the box all smashed up. Incredibly, the case didn't have a scratch on it. The reason the box was all smashed up was because the FedEx employee who stole it, had removed it from the box, and then when the heat was on repacked it with the Styrofoam end caps put on the wrong way, and the box broke open. That's the case Newegg told me to keep, for my inconvenience! Another time they "Air Mailed" an HDD by throwing the package over the fence, about 50' into the middle of my front yard. It landed badly and the drive was toast! I've had minimal problems with UPS. considering how much I buy from Newegg, they've yet to break anything, and have only lost one package, which they did find and deliver the day after I reported it missing. When I shipped Gina's computer I built for her (minus the CPU Cooler) to Chicago, it arrived without a scratch!
I sincerely hope the Royal Mail is better than USPS. Here, they lose stuff all the time. It's a 50-50 proposition that it will ever get there at all, yet if I ship to Europe, it always gets there! A package I sent to Will, got lost because the label had been ripped off the box somehow, at the local Post Office. I asked my Mailman to check it out for me and he found and returned the box to me. All I had to do was describe the contents, and then he gave it to me! Nice guy!
Russ
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27. March 2009 @ 18:02 |
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First...Russ, dude, you got some bad luck man! Thats horrible!!!
On another note, the VelociRaptor is AWESOME!!! I havnt been running it an hour and love it already. Gonna have to install some MOBO drivers though to get the Windows 7 score! It couldnt continue with the testing because of drivers(I BELIEVE)!
Anyway, performance test was able to test the Raptor for performance so here they are!
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27. March 2009 @ 18:13 |
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First...Russ, dude, you got some bad luck man! Thats horrible!!!
Oman7,
Overall, when you consider that I get about 200 packages a year or more, It's not that bad at all! I am a person who's luck seems to run in streaks though, to both extremes! LOL!! My only question is why do I almost never have problems with customer stuff, only my own personal computer seems to wind up giving me grief! LOL!!
Russ
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27. March 2009 @ 18:43 |
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Well then...you should be do for a good luck streak, Right? LOL!
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27. March 2009 @ 19:55 |
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working on my first build. Using Asus m3a78-em motherboard. Turned it on for the first time and 'no VGA'. Suggestions? What other info do you need?
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27. March 2009 @ 19:59 |
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Did you connect the 4-pin CPU power connector? Is the RAM securely seated?
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27. March 2009 @ 20:08 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Did you connect the 4-pin CPU power connector? Is the RAM securely seated?
I plugged in the 20 pin, 4 pin next to the 20 pin, and there was another 4 pin that was on a separate cable that plugged in to the atx12a socket.
Also, I found it strange that the machine will turn off when laid on its side. So, is the motherboard supposed to be grounded somehow? if so, how and where? through mounting screws?
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27. March 2009 @ 20:10 |
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You use the standoffs that came with the case to elevate it. Screw the standoffs into the holes in the case by hand, then screw the board into those.
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27. March 2009 @ 20:53 |
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okay, i feel a little ridiculous for missing those standoffs. Wondered why there was such a large gap between the MB and the case.
I removed and reinstalled the MB with the standoffs. You can now lay the pc on its side without it powering off. However, still no output to the monitor using the VGA
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27. March 2009 @ 22:50 |
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you might have shorted the board out when you didn't install the standoffs. try clearing the cmos as have found that to work sometimes to kickstart a stubborn system.
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27. March 2009 @ 23:04 |
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My Question is a install manual should have came with the board in the box unless it's a used board if he bolted that board to that case without the stands he would have got some great sparks flying from the that case...please post a link to the board you got so we can see what your working with and also your case...cause we are kinda in the dark without seeing what you got there
thanks
never mind i found a link to your board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...ASUS-_-13131324
Done out of Here!
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28. March 2009 @ 01:06 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
My Question is a install manual should have came with the board in the box unless it's a used board if he bolted that board to that case with the stands he would have got some great sparks flying from the that case...please post a link to the board you got so we can see what your working with and also your case...cause we are kinda in the dark without seeing what you got there
thanks
never mind i found a link to your board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...3131324
Will,
With a lot of today's power supplies you wouldn't get any sparks at all. The PSU should have shut down if therer was a short like that! A dead short most times is an instant off!
Best Regards,
Russ
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28. March 2009 @ 01:11 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by bigwill68:
My Question is a install manual should have came with the board in the box unless it's a used board if he bolted that board to that case with the stands he would have got some great sparks flying from the that case...please post a link to the board you got so we can see what your working with and also your case...cause we are kinda in the dark without seeing what you got there
thanks
never mind i found a link to your board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...3131324
Will,
With a lot of today's power supplies you wouldn't get any sparks at all. The PSU should have shut down if therer was a short like that! A dead short most times is an instant off!
Best Regards,
Russ
I too believe that the board shorted out against the case metal. If so, what's the liklihood that the board is still usable? How sensitive are these MB's? Does the auto shut off feature of the PSU help to preserve the life of the MB?
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28. March 2009 @ 01:25 |
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Originally posted by dru3692:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by bigwill68:
My Question is a install manual should have came with the board in the box unless it's a used board if he bolted that board to that case with the stands he would have got some great sparks flying from the that case...please post a link to the board you got so we can see what your working with and also your case...cause we are kinda in the dark without seeing what you got there
thanks
never mind i found a link to your board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...3131324
Will,
With a lot of today's power supplies you wouldn't get any sparks at all. The PSU should have shut down if therer was a short like that! A dead short most times is an instant off!
Best Regards,
Russ
I too believe that the board shorted out against the case metal. If so, what's the liklihood that the board is still usable? How sensitive are these MB's? Does the auto shut off feature of the PSU help to preserve the life of the MB?
It's not sounding too good for the board.
It's not so much a shut off feature, it's just the way most modern PSU's work. Generally a dead short should cause the PSU to shut off to prevent damage to itself! It depends entirely what path the electricity took before the short. Try a video card in it, if you can. If you are using DVI for the monitor, try the VGA.
Best Regards,
Russ
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28. March 2009 @ 01:32 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
It's not sounding too good for the board.
It's not so much a shut off feature, it's just the way most modern PSU's work. Generally a dead short should cause the PSU to shut off to prevent damage to itself! It depends entirely what path the electricity took before the short. Try a video card in it, if you can. If you are using DVI for the monitor, try the VGA.
Best Regards,
Russ
Totally agree with you russ. NOT good!!! Though some electrical devices are pretty versatile. It does depend however, how many times a power up was attempted, how bad the short was, direction the electricity took, etc, etc.
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28. March 2009 @ 10:11 |
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Agreed, if it was shorting any major, the PSU would have shut the board down instantly. The board may not have survived this incident of course.
Boards tend to be pretty resilient to static these days, but not to being shorted. Try your luck, you might be successful.
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28. March 2009 @ 11:17 |
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Attempted to boot up using the DVI instead of VGA but still no luck. I guess I am going to try to send back for an exchange if they will let me.
Once I have another MB, reinstalling the processor means that I need to remove the fan, clean the thermal compound off, and reapply, correct?
Also, I think it is worth mentioning that the thermal compound on the freezer cpu cooler did not completely cover the processor. Is this okay? Seems like the outer edges of the processor would not be cooled properly/efficiently?
Here is what I'm working with:
* Rosewill R6426-P BK ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail45945647 (N82E16811147068)
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* OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail45527280 (N82E16817341010)
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* Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM45527280 (N82E16822148262)
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* CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail45527280 (N82E16820145184)
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* AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor Model AD775ZWCGHBOX - Retail45527280 (N82E16819103300)
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* ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail45527280 (N82E16835185125)
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* ASUS M3A78-EM AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail45527280 (N82E16813131324)
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28. March 2009 @ 11:31 |
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That is best practice. Unlike proper thermal paste, the thermal pad that comes pre-applied to coolers does not work at all well once the cooler has been removed. However, in the case of the Freezer 64 coolers I'm unsure. I redo it anyway, but you it may not be necessary. Any new generation Freezer owners care to shed any light on this?
If the thermal pad was not making good contact, the system would still boot, but run hot, or shut down after a certain period.
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