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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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25. February 2008 @ 18:32 |
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No offense, but I'll take reduced performance if it means my board is still going to be working in a few years' time.
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25. February 2008 @ 18:36 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
No offense, but I'll take reduced performance if it means my board is still going to be working in a few years' time.
who is going to keep a board for over 2-2.5 years unless its was like over £130?
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25. February 2008 @ 18:39 |
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That was assuming it's the SAME quality. I don't know much about that board so I'll have to look into it.
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25. February 2008 @ 20:37 |
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I've had my board, whole computer as well, for almost three years and I still don't plan on upgrading for another two! Maybe performance mongers would upgrade constantly but I see no point. Wait five years and everything will be 5-10x faster but that's slowing down to 2-4x faster for some reason. I may know why but I can't really word it.
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25. February 2008 @ 20:44 |
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Recession, monopoly on the market. Lack of innovation. Maybe they have gotten to a point where current research can't make it much better and they need a huge breakthrough.
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25. February 2008 @ 21:10 |
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If it hadn't broken, and I hadn't decided to make my Core 2 Duo my gaming PC (it was never my original plan, the 4200 is still plenty fast enough for me) I'd still have my two year old A8N-SLI SE now.
my two oldest boards lastest 5 and 2 1/2 years of use consecutively, and both still work fine.
Abuzar: I'm going the latter right now, new tech just doesn't appear in any great "wows" since the 8800 and the Core 2s came out.
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25. February 2008 @ 21:14 |
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My Armor cost me a pretty penny. So I've decided to get a Ultra Case and now I can sell my PC at 770. Got lots of calls about it. Hopefully it's gone soon. Then it's back to me Celeron with 768MB of Ram running ubuntu.
I will be building a Octa-Core Nehalem computer next!
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25. February 2008 @ 21:16 |
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You're going to wait that long until your next PC build? lol
Recasing my server tomorrow, will post a pic once I've completed the op. The Antec 900 was nice, but didn't turn out to be quite my cup of tea. Not that I drink tea of course, despite the fact that I'm british, I've never touched the stuff.
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25. February 2008 @ 21:22 |
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Tea is a Pakistani/Indian thing. You guys were just wannabees :p
Maybe not a OCTA core but yes I will wait for the Nehalem quad cores.
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25. February 2008 @ 21:24 |
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Sounds a bit more reasonable.
Didn't the chinese invent tea?
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25. February 2008 @ 21:26 |
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Not REAL tea. Not Black Tea.
Muslims made firearms too! We are so badass lol.
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25. February 2008 @ 21:30 |
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Ahem, off topic. :)
On a more related note, do we know how well the 45nm quads overclock? I know the 8000s can push silly numbers but I never found much about the 9000s presumably due to their late availability.
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25. February 2008 @ 21:58 |
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abuzar1,
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Well if is gives better performance, why not?
Because it's still an excellent MB that will suit the majority of peoples needs to a tea! It's modern and up to date, at a price that won't bankrupt you and more than competes with motherboards costing more! Not only that, it's a better MB today, than when it first came out! It didn't take GigaByte very long to add the Ultra Durable, as the very first DS3L's originally had regular capacitors and different Mosfets! The original also only had 3 phase power regulation! That's given way to 6 phase like mine and yours have, as well.
The Company is good, the product is good and the Quality is excellent. I know I'm more than satisfied with mine!
Best Regards,
Russ
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25. February 2008 @ 22:03 |
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As am I - my only regret is not buying two of them!
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25. February 2008 @ 22:13 |
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Can we add ramsinks to the voltage regulators?
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25. February 2008 @ 22:21 |
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abuzar1,
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Can we add ramsinks to the voltage regulators?
I don't see why not. Lots of motherboards have heat sinks for all or some of their VRMs. I think the size of the ram sinks will cause some problems, fit wise!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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25. February 2008 @ 22:25 |
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Which ones are the voltage regulators? Will this help performance in any way?
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25. February 2008 @ 22:32 |
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25. February 2008 @ 22:47 |
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That's for you...
Not me! lol
Too much money.
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26. February 2008 @ 00:10 |
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Which ones are the voltage regulators? Will this help performance in any way?
These are the power mosfet core regulators found near and around the CPU socket and ferret core choke. They are typically layed flat on side. So YES, they help performance greatly if overclocking or just plain stressing the mobo when benching. On our Gigabytes, we are faced with a scattered effect, so I use VRAM chip sinks form Enzotek sliced in quarters and glued down with 2 part thermal cement. It works as good as it's gonna' get for this mobo. Better units place these in large groups so we can add them beautifull HR-09's as linked earlier (I love them). Any kind of sliced up copper sink will work as long as it can clear your CPU cooler and surrounding components.
@ sammorris, Nice to meet you, now you know one person who has also had a great experience with 3 Abits in over past 5yrs. And now you also know 1 more person who has also had several bad BIOS and OC issues with 3 Gigabytes in past 2 yrs. I also have 3 friends who have experienced the same OC limits and issues with their DQ6 of each P35, X38, and of corse the P965. Not all very bad, just picky guys like all of use who like to get what they paid for.
But guess what? I too have had some good with 1 of my Gigabytes and it wasnt the DQ6 of all things, it was this trusty C-DS3R on DDR3. It's by no means perfect or beats any of my other builds, but it's a good daily user. Oh ya, and I also had several of them bad experiences with a few Abits (BIOS). But you cant win them all. I am a long term ASUS fan and I will be the first to say they too have had some quirks in even their top end mobos.
But unlike the cheap mobos, a quirk in an ASUS or Abit is usually one for a picky OC'r and would never be noticed by stock or regular users. I still have my Abit IC7-MAX3 (1st OATES unit on air, wich quickly brought us heatpipes to desktops) of 5 yrs daily OC'd to 4GHz on a P4E. and it hasn't had a new BIOS for over 3yrs easy and was my only mobo at the release of Prescott to truely be Prescott ready out of the box. My P4C800-E required me to drop my old P4 Northy 2.4C just to boot and flash. Not to mention the 1rs of mant to be optical SATA ready from the get go.
I am not an Abit fan per say, but I use them for builds from time to time and when one stands out , I willl use it myself. And that's exactly what the IP35-Pro did for me So I guess you will just have to read the many top rated reviews and take our word for it, if you want.
But in all fairness, it's cool to introduce new builders to a few choices, not so limited just because you had a bad one. If that were so, I'd be stearing enthusiast OC'rs away from a lot of potential mobos. Even an ASUS or Gigabyte or 2.
But in the end, over here, in my shop, the IP35-E wins over the DS3L in many areas of performance per dollar spent as well as energy efficient, and low heat output. I'd rather jsut let the buyer choose based on their needs and budget. I dont get kick back from either company, lol. I only wear one ring on my finger, and she'd just asume I dont buy any of them. But she sure dont complain whe hers breaks and there's one to replace it in just an hr or so.
Food For Thought, or bits for bytes!
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ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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26. February 2008 @ 00:10 |
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So far nobody I know has had issue with gigabyte boards, and think how many people I've told to get one!
Nope, you're right, i had problems with my Albatron board, now i've bought a cheap gigabyte board, it is much better havn't had any problems.
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op?
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On a more related note, do we know how well the 45nm quads overclock? I know the 8000s can push silly numbers but I never found much about the 9000s presumably due to their late availability.
I can't remember which site, they tested Q9300, they mangae to overclock it pass 4GHz point.
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Now Ive got your attention please read my post above
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26. February 2008 @ 00:15 |
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op= Operation.
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26. February 2008 @ 00:25 |
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oh ok, i thought so, just making sure. Can a 945 chipset support 45nm? all chould i say can old chipsets support it?
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Now Ive got your attention please read my post above
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26. February 2008 @ 00:25 |
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On a more related note, do we know how well the 45nm quads overclock? I know the 8000s can push silly numbers but I never found much about the 9000s presumably due to their late availability.
Well we (a group of friends) have one and as soon as they let me get my hands on it (if I dont get my own by then) I can say for myself. But so far on even the better X38 witrh new BIOS, it is still FSB limited to a point. It's still a quad and they are still gonna' be harder to OC then the duals. They can hit 4GHz just like the Q6600 but with just barely less volts but bit more cooler. I dont know yet the MAX FSB on low multi, but you can bet I wannt drop it on my X38 to find out.
I have to admit, even as an ASUS woner, I think tyhe DFI has an edge on these dure to the multi PLL per core and higher GTL Ref. So maybe a DFI owner will get one and test for 500x8.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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26. February 2008 @ 01:41 |
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Can I hear from some of the X38 newcomers and their mobo and experiences? Any DFI owners on X38 or P35 yet?
So far, for the P5E and MAXIMUS FORMULA, OC's for the duals are cool to 4.2GHz and DDR1200+ and with a chipset voltage of only 1.5, FSBT 1.5v, SB 1.105, SB PLL 1.58v and CPU PLL 1.632v, and GTL Ref of 63% (max for my board, DFI offers over 72+). Quads do as well as can be expected but not as well as for some DFI owners.
CPU at 4GHz is a nice 23/36/36 (CPU-IHS/core1/core2)
E6750 and Crucial Ballistics Tracers PC2-8500 on 2.27v (DDR1200) or 2.2v @ DDR1153
RE: !945 of 45nm? To my knowledge, no, at least for ASUS BIOS support updates. I believe it was the linitation of the 945 but I do know the !975X will anbd can be BIOS modded to worl with 45nm. My P5W-DH WiFi is 45nm ready (select duals for now), not bad for a 3yo board. So see, sometimes you do get what you pay for.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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