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nxq
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16. September 2004 @ 09:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm using RB/CCE SP and was wondering if doing 4 passes instead of 2 would make any diffenrence? I know that 2 passes is the standard but would i see a significant improvement in the video quality if i use 4 or 3 passes? also since the guide is for CCE Basic, what other settings can i take advantage of if i'm using CCE SP? thank a lot for any input on this.
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16. September 2004 @ 09:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It depends what you mean by significant ... and this would be determined by what you are viewing the backup on? Generally, most users use 2 passes,as do I. 3 passes is usually more than enough.
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16. September 2004 @ 10:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The difference between 2 and 3 is very small, between 3 and 4 virtually nonexistent, between 4 and 10... well you just have too much time on your hands.

One advantage of SP is the ability to do One Pass Encoding (OPV) with DVD-RB. It works very well with simple DVDs, cuts the time in half, and outputs a quality almost equal to 2 pass. But it's size prediction accuracy is limited.

There are lots of other advantages to SP -- but most don't apply to DVD-RB. You can even go in and allocate bandwidth at the individual GOP level. You can also force I-Frames at certain points. These features are great if you are doing DVD authoring and professional level work, but don't really apply to DVD Backups.

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16. September 2004 @ 10:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wingdings,


Most DVD Rippers will rip the complete movie fine. However, from my personal experiences pre-editing movies using these tools is problematic when it comes to DVD-RB.

You might want to speak to some of the fine folks on here about there experiences with DVDRemake. DVDRemake is the only tool that is made for exactly what you need. I don't have this tool. However, it's on my list of software. Read the AD guide on it.
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16. September 2004 @ 10:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I love DVDRemake, but to be able to export the edited DVDs you have to have the paid version, which I won't purchase.
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16. September 2004 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Regarding DVDremake, it is truly a fine tool and it is really the best solution for backing up multi angled movies with RB/CCE. I wish I could give you a perfect rundown of Remake but the truth is each movie has its own structure and set of rules.

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16. September 2004 @ 10:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Take it from me, 3 passes is plenty!

Edit-I can't believe all these answers posted in the time it took me to type that one sentence in response to nxq's pass query.

BTW, wingdings-DvdReMake is well worth the money, it is simply the BEST editing/re-authoring tool out there today.


GO VOLS !

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Wingdings
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16. September 2004 @ 10:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I have some experience of it. DVDRemake kicks ass! Too bad it costs though :O(
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17. September 2004 @ 03:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wingdings,

The error 9 was from a pathway problem more than likely. The Source path wasn't to the right folder or something happened to the working folder. Check the setup to make sure everything is set and the folders still exist and are accessible.

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17. September 2004 @ 06:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually no, it wasn't a pathway problem. I double-checked the paths, and that the encoder was set up to the right path aswell. I tried doing my pre-encoding editing with DVDRemake instead of MenuEdit and VobBlanker later that evening, and it worked!
With DVDRemake all went smoothly.
Thanks for your help!
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17. September 2004 @ 13:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wingdings

Editing a movie before running it through RB can be a pain in the side. That's why many of us went to Remake, it's that much better than the competitors. You might want to write the steps you used down and share them just in case someone else might benefit from it.

Glad you got it working.

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17. September 2004 @ 16:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wingding must've broke down and bought remake since the trial won't let you export files. HEH HEH ;)


GO VOLS !
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17. September 2004 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   


Yep I'd say Wingdings got a copy and made it work. What other choice did he have, there's nothing better for that kind of money.

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17. September 2004 @ 17:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sophocles

There is not a better tool to remove unwanted content from a DVD Backup. I just purchased a movie and it had multiple new release trailers in the start of the DVD.

Well, DVDRemake was added to my collection. Its cheap considering what it does.

DVDRemake removed those Previews and perhaps saved my mind in the process. Hard to tell these days.
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17. September 2004 @ 17:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Gnomex

And now for another confession, it's fun to play with too.

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17. September 2004 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sophocles

The application works as promised. Now, its a shame more products don't work as well.
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17. September 2004 @ 19:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Gnomex

Have you downloaded the latest version 2.4.2? dimad's made a few improvements here's the version log for just September.

Version 2.4.2 - 17 Sep 2004
few improvements in DvdTree pane, Title selection, Chapter Selection and Command Editing dialogs
implement keyboard shortcuts in VTS Titles, VMG Titles and DvdTree panes
items in color scheme table are given in reverse order (was not fixed in 2.4.1)
extended selection of commands (using SHIFT, CTRL)
copy/insert copied/add copied/delete actions use all selected commands
Version 2.4.1 - 15 Sep 2004
PGC program entries are exported incorrectly if first program does not start with first cell
items in color scheme table are given in reverse order
implement keyboard shortcuts in PgcProperties pane (all actions for pre/post/cell commands, CLUT)
small bug in "add button"
implement keyboard shortcuts in DomainContent pane (navigation and actions)
implement keyboard shortcuts in PgcBlocks pane (actions)
Version 2.4.0 - 10 Sep 2004
split cell at user selected place inside cell (together with "cut to" and "cut from" can be used to cut commercials, etc inside a cell)
direct mode is default for new conditional and set operations (if direct mode is allowed)
in some cases arguments of SystemSet commands are not initialized properly in command edit dialog
multiple titles selection (using SHIFT, CTRL) in "Select VTS Title" dialog when adding titles to VMG Titles table (i.e. it is possible to add several titles from TitleSet with one add operation)
multiple programs selection (using SHIFT, CTRL) in "Select Program" dialog when adding chapters to VTS Title or when adding new VTS Title (i.e. it is possible to add several programs from a PGC with one add operation)
better button segments analysis (button properties are also taken into account)
improved autobypass algorithm (take cell commands into account)
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Gnomex
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18. September 2004 @ 05:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sophocles,

Yes, I downloaded it yesterday (09/18).

Dimasoft appears to make a strong effort to work with there end-users. I can think of some well known companies who will fail to notice a end-user of there product. This is of course unless the end-user throws $$$ at them.
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18. September 2004 @ 06:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree completely. In fact I consider the incredible support to be the software's strongest feature. Dimad spends a lot of time on different forums looking for problems to solve, and he isn't afraid to give away a copy when it will help his customers get more use from it. A lot of software companies could learn some lessons from him.

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jimmy3220
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18. September 2004 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have been consistently getting the mysterious buffer overflow error #0004. I am using the following programs:
DVD Decrypter 3.2.3.0
DVD-RB v0.59
AVISYNTH 2.5.5
CCE Basic 2.69.01.10
Mpeg2Dec3dg

I installed everything via the the guide here. I trying to backup Man On Fire. I ripped it with DVD Decrypter in file mode THen I go to DVD-RB and do prepare, then Encode, and then Rebuild. During the Rebuild portion of the process is when it gets the error. It makes it about 25% through and then has to abort. So I uninstalled the above items and reinstalled them. I do the same process and now it can only make it to about 18%! My computer specifications are:
DEll Dimension 8100
1.3 Ghz Pentium 4
640 MB of Samsung RD RAM

THe configuration for DVD-RB looks like this:
[Options]
NoWarn=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
LoadPlugin=1
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
[Paths]
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Documents and Settings\Jonathan\My Documents\DVD Burning Tools\DVD REBUILDER\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=C:\MANONFIRE\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\DVD REBUILDER PROJECTS\MAN ON FIRE\

Please tell me what I nedd to do. THanks
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18. September 2004 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jimmy3220

jdobbs has advised us all to use Avisynth 2.54 because of a problem with 2.5.

Also are you using the Retail or Trial verions of CCE?

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18. September 2004 @ 09:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It would be good to download and try .57 Rebuilder then try to rebuild what you already have. .58 did this where .57 didn't. It would be good to know if .59 has a similar problem.

Donald
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18. September 2004 @ 11:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm really not sure whether there is a problem with final release of v2.5.5 -- I haven't tested it. But I do know there was a problem with one of the later beta releases that caused an Error 0004 (or was it 0003?).
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18. September 2004 @ 11:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jdobbs

I remembered the version but not the 0000#?

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18. September 2004 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
About the error #'s. My problems were whenever I used Remake files, and I got both #0003 and #0004 equally. Both #'s give buffer overflow messages. I was using RB .56 at the time, along with Remake Pro 2.2.3. Both softwares went through revisions after that, and I didn't get the #0003 error again until installing RB .58. The lastest version .59 has been working very well for me...even with heavily edited Remake Pro files.

Edit: I am still using AviSynth 2.5.4.

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