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jimmy3220
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20. September 2004 @ 18:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jdobbs DVD-RB v0.61 has solved both my #0003 and #0004 errors!!! I used a previously saved project (made with DVD-RB v0.60) that made it through the encode process. (In this case I decided to try The Punisher).
So since I had already setup DVD-RB I used the old configuration file for the newest version. I opened the .rbd project file then pressed rebuild and 15 minutes later it completed!!!
I haven't burned it yet but I will shortly. I will also compare it with my DVD Shrink produced disc. (I used reauthor mode, deep analysis, sharp AEC.)
Again I thank all of you for helping me out. I would also like to recommend that anyone that has been unable to get this working and gave up to try the newest version!
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20. September 2004 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jimmy3220...that is really good news. Thanks for the feedback, also.

jdobbs...good work!!!

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20. September 2004 @ 19:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The following link to check/download the latest Rebuilder version has been added to the FAQ's (#10).
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75452

jimmy3220
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21. September 2004 @ 04:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's me again. Ok now I got DVD-RB v0.61 working and rebuilding. Now I have a new found problem. Now for some reason the Video_TS DVD-RB is producing will not exceed 2.7 GB! I haven't tried any of the advanced settings yet. I opened the Rebuilder file from one of the projects with RB-OPT v0.15. It indicates that the Video size is 100%, DVD estimated size 4424 MB, RB TargetSectors 2236303. What should I do in order to use much more of the disc? I would also like to note that I am using Daemon Tools mounted iso as the source, just in case that has an effect.
I am going to try using CCETargetSectors=2260000 and see if that will pump up the size a bit.
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21. September 2004 @ 05:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My initial buffer overflow problem was with edited Remake files (100% failure). Non-edited Decrypter files went through fine. The buffer overflow happened immediately at the beginning of Stage 3/Rebuild.......My first edited Remake went through when I switched out the C drive, and put in a 7200 RPM (this was my D, which was a C clone)......

Same with me only I solved the problem by reverting to CCE basic 2.67 from 2.69 and all remake problems went away. I'm still using 2.67 subscribing to the "if it ain't broke" theory....

The problems are so far reaching and wide ranging that it seems everyone's case is different which in itself presents a problem. Systems are different, they don't come from cookie cutters. Then you add in software issues, it's amazing we get positive results at all!


I just hope that the problems that people are reporting are due to O/S ~ Hardware
conflicts and not due to software that was cracked badly. The first two items
are enough to make the most die-hard support reach for there extra strong
cup of java


Amen, brother! It's one of the reasons I became so exasperated with this and the other thread dealing with Rb/CCE. That, or they were using trial versions and leading us to believe they were using purchased Basic versions. It makes ya wanna pour Jack in that coffee and throw your hands up, which , I must confess, I did.

Cudos to you guys who have stayed the course(vurbal,doc, soph, 6402...) and to jdobbs for what I think is an excellent software. I may be ready to jump back in the fray, after another coffee, of course.....lol :)




GO VOLS !
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21. September 2004 @ 05:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jimmy, that's where brobear's problem arose, once he got it going, he had sizing issues and had to put it all on the same drive. That cured the problem. Also, using Daemon Tools with an ISO shouldn't make any difference.


GO VOLS !

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jdobbs
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21. September 2004 @ 05:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
It's me again. Ok now I got DVD-RB v0.61 working and rebuilding. Now I have a new found problem. Now for some reason the Video_TS DVD-RB is producing will not exceed 2.7 GB! I haven't tried any of the advanced settings yet. I opened the Rebuilder file from one of the projects with RB-OPT v0.15. It indicates that the Video size is 100%, DVD estimated size 4424 MB, RB TargetSectors 2236303. What should I do in order to use much more of the disc? I would also like to note that I am using Daemon Tools mounted iso as the source, just in case that has an effect.
I am going to try using CCETargetSectors=2260000 and see if that will pump up the size a bit.
If DVD-RB determines 100% compression -- that normally means the source will already fit on a DVD-5, and you shouldn't run DVD-RB against it (just burn it).
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21. September 2004 @ 05:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL, that's true! It means O% compression, what a dummy I am. lol


GO VOLS !
jimmy3220
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21. September 2004 @ 05:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh I forgot to mention that the original disc size is 5.7 GB. Also The Punisher which I tried to do is around 8 GB. Both were reduced to 2.7 GB.
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21. September 2004 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bigorange,

Now heres an interesting question to ponder. Has moving the files from one hard drive fixed the problem due to hardware limitations or software configuration problems. It makes you wonder.


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21. September 2004 @ 05:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL, well, you're right except in brobear's case it's definitely not hardware limitations since I'm familiar with his system..

There never seems to be any rhyme or reason, which is what makes troubleshooting so difficult, that, and the 3-4 hour encode times.

The fact is, if the results weren't so friggin' fantastic, I fear people would have given up long ago.

In my case it worked from day 1, it was only when I added remake to the mix, i started to have problems. But after spending 40.00 I wasn't gonna give up that easy and by switching to CCE 2.67 it cured my problems.

Sometimes, newer isn't better. ;)


GO VOLS !
Gnomex
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21. September 2004 @ 06:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bigorange,

I used to use DVD X Copy (NEVER AGAIN) express and a few other applications. I spent a lot of time reading post from CCE ~ DVD-RB users. After a short internal debate, I purchased CCE basic. I had some minor setup problems in the beginning.. After all was put right my first working encode sold me. I am now working with DVDRemake. The long encode times are a hassle, but the output is outstanding.


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21. September 2004 @ 06:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only configuration problems I've ever experienced were caused by installing DVD2DVDR, but since I'd been using AviSynth and CCE for a long time before DVD-RB was released that's hardly a surprise. I wonder if it might help some people to come up with an automated process for testing those programs independent of DVD-RB. Since Avisynth can create a video clip without an external source, it would certainly be possible. Add an ECL file, and maybe a batch file to run it, to automate encoding and you should have a pretty good test.

Rich Fiscus
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21. September 2004 @ 07:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wonder if it might help some people to come up with an automated process for testing those programs independent of DVD-RB?

If this is possible, I think it would be a great idea.
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21. September 2004 @ 07:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thought I'd let everyone know that I just ran a movie through the new RB.61 without any problems. The video_ts file was the normal 4.32 GB.

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21. September 2004 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After some more thought, here's what I think would work best for testing AviSynth and CCE. There should be 3 different AviSynth scripts, a VOB file with an associated D2V file, and an ECL file with a batch file to automate encoding. The first script would just have the AviSynth Version() filter, allowing you to simply play it and verify what version of AviSynth you're running. The second would play the VOB file, allowing you to make sure MPEG2DEC3dg.dll was setup correctly. The third script would generate a 3-5 minute video clip, which would be encoded automatically by CCE using the batch file. You could then check the size of the resulting M2V file to make sure the size was correct. It would also be a good idea to create 2 different versions of the encoding script, so the resolution would be correct for NTSC or PAL.

Rich Fiscus
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21. September 2004 @ 07:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
vurbal, that sounds like a wonderful idea(on paper, anyway-lol) and would certainly cut down on the time factor. You would be able to test your setup in under 20 minutes!

Your familiarity with Avisynth is certainly a plus. Unfortunately I had never used it til I used Rebuider/CCE.


GO VOLS !
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21. September 2004 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jdobbs

If RB .61 cures only a tenth of the 0003 and 4 problems that be a big step in the right direction.

I go to work for a few hours and when I get home I find a dozen posts to read on this thread alone. I've got to sneak in a little forum time during lunch.

"Please Read!!! Post your questions only in This Thread or they will go unanswered:

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bornblind
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21. September 2004 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Progress Report:
After starting with .59 and trying every possible combination of CCE versions (well, a lot of them, at least, but notably, no Basic versions), I installed .60 and was finally able to produce a finished movie with CCE SP 2.66.xxxx trial, but still not with 1 pass vbr w/analysis. On the computer I was using(AMD 1 gig CPU),that process took 486 minutes. Prior to .60, I had 0003 and 0004 errors by the score, but these went away with .60. However, every time I tried to use the 1 pass method (the fast way) with .60 and CCE 2.66, the program would either: a)choose a Q of 0 (zero) and repeat testing 0 as Q about 20 times and finally give an overflow error, or b)choose a Q of 27 and keep increasing it to something like 21045 (also around 20 tests), also finally give an overflow error. The program could not seem to get a different projected file size with any Q, so it just kept trying to overflow. But...undaunted and encouraged by progress, I installed CCE Trial 2.67.00.13 and everthing worked perfectly in 1 pass vbr w/analysis mode; even the size of the of the resulting files came to 4,576,847,907 bytes, or 4.26 gigs. This was using the newest eclcce.exe, with the settings used in the guide. I did not use the 1 click option, but can't see that this would make any difference. I hope this might help someone. It was a long battle.

Jimbo
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21. September 2004 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

bornblind ... thanks for the feedback. Very few here have had the patience to work through the CCE trial's problems. I personally gave up, and bought the S/W. Now that you have seen the quality, I trust you'll see the merits of purchasing the CCE software.

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bornblind
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21. September 2004 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
P.S.--That working CCE was CCE SP Trial 2.67.00.13, by the way.

Jimbo
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21. September 2004 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Certainly, Doc. If CCE isn't the best encoder out there, at least it's good enough to deliver results with DVDRB that are so close to the original DVD quality that I don't see how the difference could matter to anybody, and as for myself, I can't see any loss of quality in the movie I encoded, which was 53% of the original DVD size. The combination of RB and CCE is a winner for me. Thanks to everyone for all the advice, etc.

Jimbo
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21. September 2004 @ 14:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bornblind

Thank you for sharing that and it's interesting that your results improved with CCE SP version 2.67.00.13 and the latest version of eclcce. Jdobbs had encountered a CCE SP 2.67.00.23 non trial version that had a sizing problem (If I remember correctly) I believe that led him to release .58 and on to .61.

Good work jdobbs.


"Please Read!!! Post your questions only in This Thread or they will go unanswered:

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21. September 2004 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seems there's a time shifting thing going on here.


bornblind, since you have a unique experience it might be helpful if you checked in every now and then and share your experiences with others. I know I'd appreciate it.

"Please Read!!! Post your questions only in This Thread or they will go unanswered:

Help with development of BD RB: Donations at: http://www.jdobbs.com/
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bornblind
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21. September 2004 @ 15:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sure, Sophocles, I'd be happy to, but I have my fingers crossed that nothing is going to change, ha, ha. I probably won't mess with ReMake, etc.., or even change versions of RB unless there is some added functionality. If something goes haywire, I'll be in touch for help or to post results. Thanks again.

Jimbo
 
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