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harvrdguy

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12. October 2010 @ 05:24

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Thanks for the great video illustrating what Jeff meant by a "twitch" shooter. Frantic! Fun for a short while I would say, but not really my style.

Shooting an AWP - Arctic White Hunter - in counter strike is similar in some ways - if you hit any part of their body, they are dead! That part is accurate - a genuine sniper round packs so much power, a flesh wound pretty much incapacitates you - "where is a medic" is your next thought, assuming you're still alive. And the bullet travels at infinite speed. Of course that part is not true. I was reading just now on google that the bullet on some of the really long-range sniper weapons may be airborne for as long as 2 seconds.

Anyway, for counter strike, yes the bullet travels at infinite speed. The only caveat is - don't snipe if you have a ping of more than 100 ms - they will move to safety by the time the server takes note of the fact that you should have killed them if your ping wasn't so bad, lol.

In my opinion, the best sniper bit, the one that seemed the most accurate to me, was the one in COD4 where you shoot the guy's arm off. I swear I decapitated him, but whatever - I understand he has to survive for me to blow his brains out at the end of the game. You had a very heavy sniper weapon - like an AWP - and you had an observer, and you were told to take careful account of the wind, and even the coriolis effect. As a player you can't do much about coriolis, because you don't know at what angle you are shooting relative to the rotation of the earth, but for wind, you watch the flags on the Russian cars.

The bullet remained in flight for about a half second as I recall, and you saw its path - although I don't think that part is accurate unless you're shooting a tracer round, and you wouldn't shoot a tracer round for a sniper shot like that. Right?

Anybody think they've ever played a more accurate sniper session in any game, than that COD4 scene?

On another note, Shaff talked about the beta for Medal of Honor, so I hurried over to File Planet to download it. Of course Shaff is only about a week late, no more beta. Thanks dude. I don't stay current on these things, so mention the beta when it is still out, okay? - just kidding - no I'm serious :P

Originally posted by estuansis:
Well the AK-47 is a 7.62mm round and is actually very accurate. It's main weakness is a short distance between the sightposts. With a scope, a good quality AK has an effective range of 380-400 yards. Of course something like an M-16 has about 600 yard of effective range, but the design is also 20 years newer. My main point being, the AK-47 isn't amazing, but people saying they're not nice to shoot? They can't shoot or have a cheap AK. I have no problem being accurate with one.

Hmmm, that's very interesting. So the main weakness, is lack of a scope. Otherwise, they have excellent accuracy. Very interesting.

Yeah, I know the M16 is more accurate, but it also is a much lighter bullet - more the size of a 22 round travelling very fast. The advantage is that you can carry a lot of rounds. But the disadvantage is that each round doesn't have nearly as much punch, such as the ability to penetrate brush and hit the target. But if you do hit somebody, it tends to tumble around inside of any person it hits causing quite a bit of damage. You have to be quite conscious of cleanliness, oiling, and keeping off dust and debris, much less so with an AK.

In that case, Jeff, given the poor sightpost positioning, let's say you didn't have a scope. Do you figure you could still hit prone bullseyes from 50 yards out, without the scope?

Originally posted by DXR:
you can get about two rounds out at 300 yards, anything more than and your barrels is flailing about like a hot-dog down a hallway. its not a bad gun considering its age, and newer models carry there successor's advancements which nearly eliminate all of the true AK-47 issue's.

Hmmm, how do they do that? Better sightposts?

Then that begs the question - are the adversaries we face in Afghanistan using the newer, better AKs, or the older ones the Russians brought in 20-30 years ago? Probably a mix depending on the Taliban's weapon suppliers, which probably varies throughout the country. According to google several factories around the world still build the AK, apart from the many located here in the states.

I took note of the following as I looked for the non-existent beta: Out of sensitivity to the war effort, in a last minute change, which still failed to get the product carried at military exchanges, you no longer play Medal of Honor MP as a Taliban, but as the Opposing Force. That sounds right to me - it's a war we're in right now. "Hey guys, we've been shooting at Taliban all day - Homer's got his hot video game PC his brother just shipped him - let's play Medal of Honor. There's a server nearby for it. I'll be on the Taliban side."

LOL I don't think so!

Rich


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