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22. May 2008 @ 17:46 |
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hi i just got myself an artic cooler 64 pro, and i want to overclock my system from 2.2ghz to 2.5ghz would you recermend this on my system here is the all important specs.
AMD ATHALON DUAL CORE 4200+ @ 2.2GHZ
ASROCK ALIVE-NF6G (P2.20 BIOS)
NVIDIA 8600GT 512MB ddr 2 (i think)
4GIGS DDR2 RAM 800mhz
SATA DVD ROM
IDE DVD RW (SONY)
SEAGATE SATA 80GIG
MAXTOR 80GIG IDE
so also can you tell me if i have somthing to work with or not.
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22. May 2008 @ 17:51 |
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You should be able to achieve something, but I'm not sure what overclocking features you'll have on that ASrock board.
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22. May 2008 @ 19:16 |
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Cool, some activity again.
Anybody having any good luck w/ FSB OC on a 45nm quad? The 9450 or Q9550 to be more exact?
Thanx!
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22. May 2008 @ 19:25 |
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Cool, some activity again.
Anybody having any good luck w/ FSB OC on a 45nm quad? The 9450 or Q9550 to be more exact?
Thanx!
by what I have heard, they go to 4ghz pretty easy!
good luck
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22. May 2008 @ 19:27 |
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sammorris,
I've heard you talk a lot about hard drive performance over the years and Maybe you can explain the differences between these two Sata drives!
The same WD drive seemingly performs better on the AMD than it does on mine. I'm just trying to understand why they are so different in performance?
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22. May 2008 @ 19:28 |
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... and then go pop. I know someone who's got one to 3.7Ghz, but on 1.5V, which I told him off about.
Russ: Different S-ATA chipsets have different performances.
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22. May 2008 @ 19:34 |
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Originally posted by im1992:
Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Cool, some activity again.
Anybody having any good luck w/ FSB OC on a 45nm quad? The 9450 or Q9550 to be more exact?
Thanx!
by what I have heard, they go to 4ghz pretty easy!
good luck
I read where the 9450 should OC to around 3.7-3.75 but it's really pushing it to go much higher. haven't researched the OC capabilities of the 9550.
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22. May 2008 @ 20:32 |
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sammorris,
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Russ: Different S-ATA chipsets have different performances.
Your answer made perfect sense! Then I started looking around in my software collection and found an update for the SM Bus that I had forgotten to install! I installed it and both drives perform identically now! LOL!! I just had to believe that there couldn't be that much difference between the two of them. 15MB/s to me, is a lot of difference! Thanks for the help!
Russ
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22. May 2008 @ 21:02 |
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Yeah, sorry for the short response, I was busy at the time - but yeah, the software for the chipsets seems to have a lot to do with it.
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23. May 2008 @ 14:23 |
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45nm Q9540,
Well this Q9450 is'nt doing much over 450FSB stable and w/ 8x that isn't much. Not to mention the stress to keep it there and little performance gain over a Q6600 at same FID and FSB. It needs what feels like too much FSBT and PLL to stay at 450FSB and while temps are fair, it just feels like a lot of work.
As for those 45nm in general hitting 4GHz, that isnt unusual, especially the QX w/ high and or unlocked FID since everybody is using highest possable multi to do it. Even 9x is a challange for any QX but doable for the E series duals. Like I said, it's not the vcore they seam to need, it's the PLL, and FSBT. I never had to go over 1.47v to try at 475FSB Yet to even boot, it needed 1.55v FSBT. It was also sensitive to high GTL_Ref and PLL. I had to lower to 1.632v PLL but w/ 63% GTL. And if on the P5E3 Premium with quad core (dual CPU_GTL) GTL I could reduce the 2nd set of GTL even lower and probably get more stable.
In testing, I find that YES, w/ creative use on trd and lower FSB overclocks, you can get the feel of high FSB OC's but it isnt all that big a real world feel. 1st off, the chipset has to be cranked up much more then would be just to up FSB (if CPUI can do it?) then forcing a trd of say 6 or 7 at lower of 400~425FSB I can get trd 8 at 480 and with much better real worl feel and even better ram scores in Everest with similar RAM spd.
Just some of my personal experiences so far.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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23. May 2008 @ 15:19 |
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
45nm Q9540,
Well this Q9450 is'nt doing much over 450FSB stable and w/ 8x that isn't much. Not to mention the stress to keep it there and little performance gain over a Q6600 at same FID and FSB. It needs what feels like too much FSBT and PLL to stay at 450FSB and while temps are fair, it just feels like a lot of work.
As for those 45nm in general hitting 4GHz, that isnt unusual, especially the QX w/ high and or unlocked FID since everybody is using highest possable multi to do it. Even 9x is a challange for any QX but doable for the E series duals. Like I said, it's not the vcore they seam to need, it's the PLL, and FSBT. I never had to go over 1.47v to try at 475FSB Yet to even boot, it needed 1.55v FSBT. It was also sensitive to high GTL_Ref and PLL. I had to lower to 1.632v PLL but w/ 63% GTL. And if on the P5E3 Premium with quad core (dual CPU_GTL) GTL I could reduce the 2nd set of GTL even lower and probably get more stable.
In testing, I find that YES, w/ creative use on trd and lower FSB overclocks, you can get the feel of high FSB OC's but it isnt all that big a real world feel. 1st off, the chipset has to be cranked up much more then would be just to up FSB (if CPUI can do it?) then forcing a trd of say 6 or 7 at lower of 400~425FSB I can get trd 8 at 480 and with much better real worl feel and even better ram scores in Everest with similar RAM spd.
Just some of my personal experiences so far.
Hi,
Seems to me like sticking with 65nm is better cause I am running a e6300 (1.86ghz 65nm conroe) at 3ghz with 1.15v! Now thats what I call Intel severely underclocking their CPUs, I mean, this cpu could have easily been a lower-end extreme edition with 2megs cache because it seems to me that the only reason they sold it as a e6300 was because the other 2megs of cache was malfunctioning. Plus, with 65nms', there are more choices for motherboards and you dont *need* DDR3 ram. Both 65nm motherboards and DDR2 ram are cheaper than 45nm motherboard and DDR3 ram so going with 65nm would be a lot more economical.
-good luck
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23. May 2008 @ 15:53 |
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They probably weren't malfunctioning either...
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23. May 2008 @ 16:02 |
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Originally posted by navskin:
hi i just got myself an artic cooler 64 pro, and i want to overclock my system from 2.2ghz to 2.5ghz would you recermend this on my system here is the all important specs.
AMD ATHALON DUAL CORE 4200+ @ 2.2GHZ
ASROCK ALIVE-NF6G (P2.20 BIOS)
NVIDIA 8600GT 512MB ddr 2 (i think)
4GIGS DDR2 RAM 800mhz
SATA DVD ROM
IDE DVD RW (SONY)
SEAGATE SATA 80GIG
MAXTOR 80GIG IDE
so also can you tell me if i have somthing to work with or not.
2.55GHz is about it before you want better cooling as if it is only the 90nm temps will be around 55c and thats w/ the Zalman CNPS9500. It has the potential to do 2.8GHz easily w/ something like the TR120E. 250x10 & 250HT @ 5x should be very doable for somethign like the AsRock (if not use the 11x) and Freezer Pro. Let us know how it goes. The 65nm version will give you better temps even if at same OC level.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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23. May 2008 @ 19:15 |
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hi and thanks for the info need somthing to put my pc under load to put it to the test can you help and as for the i have the 65nm processor and like you said i am getting low temps. like 45C and the mobo is @ 31C
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23. May 2008 @ 19:41 |
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NuckNFuts,
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2.55GHz is about it before you want better cooling as if it is only the 90nm temps will be around 55c and thats w/ the Zalman CNPS9500.
A while back I did some very comprehensive "real world" testing of the Zalman CNPS9500 vs the AF7-Pro and the Freezer 64 Pro on 3 different platforms for another Forum, and the Arctics were marginally superior, especially as ambient temperatures rose! The Zalman, while a good cooler, is much harder to keep clean in a dusty environment like where I live because you can't easily remove the fan to clean it. All those little "Vs" on the inside of the cooler start trapping dust and dirt and will grow a "carpet" outward from the inside if allowed to go too long without cleaning.
I prefer the Freezer series over the 9500 because they cool at least as well, is much easier to install and fan removal for cleaning requires no tools. It's straight through airflow design is much better IMO since it doesn't trap much dust. Cleaning with the 9500 was at best monthly, while I only have to clean the AF-7 Pro about every 6 months. The Arctics are all much quieter too! I tested both on some real heaters! P4 Prescott 3.0/800 OC'd to 3.84GHz, and AMD Athlon 64 4000+ OC'd to 2.9GHz and the much cooler E4300 at 3.34GHz and the temps were 1-2C lower than the 9500 on all 3 platforms.
I also took the opportunity to test the AS5 vs the Ceramique and found no meaningful difference in temps in any range. The thermal properties of the ceramique are not as good as the AS5, but the smaller particle size of the Ceramique is smaller so it puts more particles in the same space to achieve equal heat transfer!
BTW! Still loving that Enzotech NB cooler. It works exactly as you said it would. Thanks!
Russ
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23. May 2008 @ 19:57 |
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And while I'm at it, the Freezer 7 also makes a far less annoying noise.
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23. May 2008 @ 20:09 |
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your probly right but i have a total of 9 fans in my pc now. so dont know that its there lol.
2 X 120mm
5 X 80mm
Cpu
GPU
i just got my nvidia 8600gt running @ 600mhz Core And the memory @ 400mhz and the sharders @ 1500mhz and it nice and stable and my pc hasnt crash yet with my cpu at 45C while pay call of duty 4. do you think thats any good.
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45c is a good CPU temp for load.
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23. May 2008 @ 20:38 |
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please can you have a look over thase numerber if tell me if there i dont like the red boxes on the nvidia monitor program.
ps i think i am doing ok with this overclocking to say i am noob to it lol.
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23. May 2008 @ 20:50 |
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navskin,
here are some good free proggys to load and test your cpu and system stability: OCCT, Orthos, and Prime. you should run them for an hour to test stability. you can google for these. keep an eye on your core temps.
here are some proggys that will tell your cpu core temps: Everest ultimate edition, coretemp and realtemp. you can google for these as well. Everest ultimate ed. is not free however.
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23. May 2008 @ 20:56 |
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So guys, I managed to OC my Celeron D from 2.6ghz to 2.8ghz. Now I just don't remember what program I used because you had to do it from Windows. lol I could probably use that extra 200 Mhz.
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23. May 2008 @ 21:00 |
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navskin,
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your probably right but i have a total of 9 in my pc now. so dont know that its there lol.
You didn't say what Brand of case you have, but I use 1 120mm, 2 80mm, CPU, GPU and a 40x20mm NB cooler and have had no problems with heat in a Cooler Master Cavalier Mid-Tower case with my E6750 and the previous E4300 and an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro. It's all about the airflow and where it goes and how fast it moves, going through the case that counts. Too much airflow is just as bad as not enough as the air moves too fast and doesn't absorb as much heat. Dry climates are even worse because the air moving through the computer is less dense! Try playing with your fan speeds and directions. Balancing speeds is important, as there's currently no other way to do very much to alter the airflow patern better inside the case.
I have a clever, inexpensive device I just invented that I'm having patent searched right now, that may go a long way towards helping out with this problem. I have the design fixed, but I'm working on the prototype, which means I have to build it from scratch as there's nothing available off the shelf that will work as efficiently! Even gave it a catchy name, Secondary Computer Cooling System or SCCS for short. Stay Tuned! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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23. May 2008 @ 21:58 |
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and on the flip-side, I use three 120mms at a very low speed and also have no issues with heat. Having changed my PSU for a quiet low speed one, my CPU doesn't cool that well passively with the case fans at such a low speed, but at 1000rpm for all, it runs fine. I have two 80mm slots for fans in my case, but I can't say I really notice the difference when I use them, temp wise. It's probably due to the fact that the vent hole for one of them at least is quite large so ample air can seep through it to balance the pressure, that and the fact that I haven't got any 80mm fans good enough to push much air without making a din. Might try a pair of Nexus 80mm ones soon, they're even quieter than the 120mms, and I'm running a pair of those at full chat right now - a very faint roar in the background, it's even quite a pleasant noise! lol
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23. May 2008 @ 23:53 |
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Sorry fo bringing this up again....but.....,
Is a 120mm fan at 1162rpm good or is a 80mm fan at 2000rpm be better?
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