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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread
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9. November 2010 @ 02:13 |
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Don't mind me while I berate myself again LOL!
Nvidia is really making me angry now. The 210 is a piece of friggin trash. Worst decision I've ever made. My brother just brought over the HTPC. I tried to start it 4 times. 2 times there were error code/beeps. The other 2 were freeze ups. I removed the Geforce 210 and low and behold, its running without flaw now.
I don't understand. I stressed the holy hell out of it not that long ago without hiccup! It's a little late tonight, but tomorrow I plan on hooking the Gforce-210 up to my secondary computer, to see if it does the same thing on that board. Any problems there, and I'll have a 100% guaranteed bad card. I guess they happen. But for such a weak card, that just doesn't seem right...
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Damn! I see the script error followed me to the next page :(
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9. November 2010 @ 05:50 |
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On a slightly brighter note I just coughed up $80 and a case of beer for a 955BE. 3.8GHz, stock 1.35 volts, 2400 NB. Not much else to say except it runs cooler and I might be switching out to the Gigabyte 790X-UD4P for nothing else but temps and ease of use...
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9. November 2010 @ 11:19 |
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i5 is back in my main PC at long last, no complaints from the system other than the standard reinstalling the graphics driver. Sadly running the Q9550 in PC3 has been delayed due to the fan holder for the CPU cooler going missing :(
As good as that cooler is I don't really want it to run a Q9550 when fanless!
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9. November 2010 @ 11:44 |
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Bit of a turn up for the books, the GTX580 is out, and it makes some good first impressions - good to the extent it's almost worth the name change.
HD4870: 100% performance, 150W
HD5850: 155% performance, 151W
HD5870: 180% performance, 188W
HD6850: 150% performance, 127W
HD6870: 175% performance, 151W
GTX480: 190% performance, 270W
GTX580: 230% performance, 260W
It's also priced slightly more forgivingly than was expected, at £410, or $560.
nvidia have got their punch in before AMD, and it's a big punch. The stock cooler drops the temps from 94ºC with the GTX480 to a hugely more respectable 77ºC, and seemingly does so with a reduced acoustic profile too. How much of a difference there is in the latter department nobody has yet said, but it seems to be relatively considerable, at least in a multi-GPU setup.
The GTX480 would have been absolutely demolished by the upcoming HD6900 series, but now the 580 is here, competition is actually hot once again, believe it or not.
However, the GTX480 has one chink in its armour.
In every game that isn't hugely biased that has been tested, the GTX580 has been outperformed by a pair of HD6870s.
Now, two HD6870s use slightly more power (300W versus 260) but they cost slightly less (currently £390 vs £410, and in the US it's a bigger difference at $480 vs $560).
That's a serious contender.
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9. November 2010 @ 12:31 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
On a slightly brighter note I just coughed up $80 and a case of beer for a 955BE. 3.8GHz, stock 1.35 volts, 2400 NB. Not much else to say except it runs cooler and I might be switching out to the Gigabyte 790X-UD4P for nothing else but temps and ease of use...
That's a steal, nice going.
Originally posted by sammorris:
However, the GTX480 has one chink in its armour.
In every game that isn't hugely biased that has been tested, the GTX580 has been outperformed by a pair of HD6870s.
Now, two HD6870s use slightly more power (300W versus 260) but they cost slightly less (currently £390 vs £410, and in the US it's a bigger difference at $480 vs $560).
That's a serious contender.
That is a tough decision, but for the benefits of running a single gpu I'd pay the extra 80US (if I actually wanted an nvidia gpu again).
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9. November 2010 @ 12:58 |
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im shocked at the GTX580!
less power consumed, queiter, cooler, and yet more powerfull than the GTX 480. this is what fermi should have been in the first place.
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9. November 2010 @ 13:02 |
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The real question is how well will it fare against the HD6970 when it's released in a fortnight's time.
The GTX580 matches the noise level of the HD5870, and given all Radeons are calibrated the same way this means it will be quieter than the HD6970. Given the thermal calibration of Radeons, the HD6970 will also run hotter (not that this is an issue).
Given that the price of the GTX580 is lower than expected, the HD6970 isn't likely to be that much cheaper than the GTX580 either, so it really comes down to performance, and for the top-end user, whether the magnificent scaling of the HD6800 series in crossfire will extend to HD6900 crossfire setups.
All the preliminary benchmarks of the HD6970 show it as 1.35x the GTX480, whereas the GTX580 is 1.21-1.22x the GTX480, so theoretically the AMD card should have a 10% lead. If they keep the release price at the stated value, it should still be a better buy than the 580.
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9. November 2010 @ 14:22 |
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everytime they release a new card the price just gets more and more expensive. we need more GFX chip makers in the market.
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9. November 2010 @ 14:29 |
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Yay more competition :D
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9. November 2010 @ 14:38 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
everytime they release a new card the price just gets more and more expensive. we need more GFX chip makers in the market.
Not true at all. $600 graphics cards have been around for at least 6 generations now.
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9. November 2010 @ 14:45 |
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Ahem, 8800GTX. That is all.
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9. November 2010 @ 14:48 |
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and the 7900GTX before it, and the 6800 Ultra before that, and the FX5950 before that, and the 4Ti 4600 before that.
Account for inflation, and the price of graphics cards is steadily decreasing.
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9. November 2010 @ 14:58 |
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Probably because there's more demand for PC components in general, then there used to be ;) More demand = fair prices.
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9. November 2010 @ 17:57 |
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Well, I hooked the Geforce 210 up to my secondary computer. No error codes, installed drivers and have it playing a High Def MKV file right now. So far I see no issues. So it's either STILL a Northbridge issue, or the power supply is beginning to fail. I certainly hope not. It's a 300W seasonic! Perhaps time will tell. The new board is on the way. At least this way, his HTPC will be more up to date. And the onboard Ati 4200 should be agreeable eh?
In any case, the 210 is staying in my secondary for now. To be absolutely sure of its reliability before I sell it for .05Cents, and my 8600GT may have a fan problem. The fan wouldn't turn to air pressure while blowing it off. Is this normal for a ~65mm fan? It seems awfully tight...
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9. November 2010 @ 18:04 |
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WTF is a Seasonic?
Only 300Watts, my gerbils put out more power.
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9. November 2010 @ 18:06 |
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300W could be considered Midgrade(Possibly more) for an HTPC though :p
Seasonic makes Corsair PSU's ;)
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9. November 2010 @ 18:08 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
300W could be considered Midgrade(Possibly more) for an HTPC though :p
Seasonic makes Corsair PSU's ;)
yeah and Antic. amazing what you can learn in 3.5 seconds
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9. November 2010 @ 19:31 |
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A 300W Seasonic is equivalent to 500+ for any other brand :P
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9. November 2010 @ 21:19 |
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I really doubt that the PSU is the problem *knock on wood*. It's probably just the Northbridge close to failure. So routing GPU signals is too much hassle for it now :p Probably amazing it runs at all on the integrated graphics.
Can't wait to see how the Ati 4200 does by comparison ;)
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10. November 2010 @ 05:36 |
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and my 8600GT may have a fan problem. The fan wouldn't turn to air pressure while blowing it off. Is this normal for a ~65mm fan? It seems awfully tight...
Yep your fan bearing is seized up. I doubt it's able to turn under its own power.
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10. November 2010 @ 14:15 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
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and my 8600GT may have a fan problem. The fan wouldn't turn to air pressure while blowing it off. Is this normal for a ~65mm fan? It seems awfully tight...
Yep your fan bearing is seized up. I doubt it's able to turn under its own power.
You're probably right. I just hooked it up to an ac - molex adapter. 6v barely moves at all, and 12V acts like it's only getting ~3v.
Here she is, for those curious.
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10. November 2010 @ 19:03 |
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The same exact thing killed my StealthXStream 600W. Normally a dead PSU after 2+ years of being on reasonable systems would mark it a bad unit in my book. But I can't fault the internal hardware for a seized up fan. It was a Seasonic unit too apparently so I can't really point at the OEM.
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10. November 2010 @ 19:13 |
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Ahh, but the 8600GT may not be dead just yet. I may be able to replace the fan. Since it will be a simple backup card, I'll probably just use what I have on hand ;) Amazing it remained cool in that tower. Probably a good thing I did all of those mods that I did to it. Probably saved its ass! It really does have good air circulation in that tower :p
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10. November 2010 @ 20:34 |
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The OEM makes the board, not the casing and fan, so blame OCZ for that one.
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11. November 2010 @ 23:58 |
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