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14. November 2010 @ 00:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow,

I've been gone a bit - I'll try to catch up with a short (unlikely) post.

Originally posted by sam:
I don't really know what you mean about nvidia having colour and gamma control, ATI have the exact same, also at driver level. It's not difficult to find, and it works exactly the same way.

Not really, Sam. Nvidia has a wizard.

Before you guys say, "Wizard shmizard" let me describe it: The wizard gives you a huge color band going across the screen, with a box inside that you drag back and forth, attempting to match the hue of the dithered areas above and below. It does this separately for red, green and blue. The instructions tell you to unfocus your eyes, lol.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Ati has no wizard. From what I have found, Ati has a place to adjust gamma, with a range of colors - but not color by color on the primary colors. It seems to me that what the Catalyst Control Center comes with is not as good as that wizard.

And I have to say, that World at War, which I just finished, was an unbelievable visual treat, the whole way through, at full 2560x1600 and 4xAA (about 30-33 fps which works for me.)

Here's how much I loved it:
At one point, I realized that I had lost my front speakers in my 5.1 headset. I had already finished the game, and I was showing somebody the episode in the flying boat gunship (did we really have aircraft like that in WWII - that thing was AWESOME. I'll google it one day.) I have the old style Medusa 5.1 headset with the amp that lets you plug in another headset, so somebody can watch you play and listen through the own headset.

I realized that there was a lot of chatter "Wow, look at those propane tanks explode!" Etc Etc But I hadn't heard anything when I played it through the first time. This made me check - and I ended up reloading my chipset drivers which fixed the problem.

After replaying that chapter, I think the next one was Okinawa, and I was on the Expert setting, but I just kept going. (And it had been a huge hassle playing it through the first time on one setting below expert.) But anyway, the guns sounded so much better, and that's the chapter where you carry the SAW, that I just kept going. Plus I had a good night's sleep under me. Still - between burning down the bushes - dodging grenades by camping out in the spider holes a lot of the time - blowing everybody away with the SAW, it still took about 10 frustrating rounds to get to the first checkpoint. It's amazing what a good night's sleep, beautiful graphics, and lush 5.1 sound, can do to give you the patience to get through some tough expert levels. I played all the way through the Okinawa, loving it even more than before because of the repaired sound.

Anyway, what can I say - for a Treyarch game - I actually loved the damn thing!!!

And I blame most of that on the nvidia color and gamma wizard, which allowed me to create a lush visual experience - better than I have ever had before.

I sincerely believe that I have never had my color gamma corrected the way that I did this time, in 8 years of gaming. Some people say gamma is contrast. Apparently if you get the gamma correct on the primary colors - it makes a huge difference!

(You guys have said that COD4 is even better, so I'm going to be playing that through again, and I'll be finishing up Hells Highway too!)

So my main point is, the damn wizard seems to have really opened my eyes to the importance of gamma.

I don't think it's the 8800GTX card itself - I just think that the wizard allowed me to actually get the gamma straight for the first time - that's my whole point. So I will be looking for an equivalent - when I get back on an ati card maybe with this 6000 family.


Originally posted by sam:
I'm not sure how you have set up continuous broadcast for Left 4 Dead, normally it is push to talk as well.

Sam, check your L4D again. Left 4 Dead - on the audio control - allows you to select Always On. That is a great thing - you don't have to look for your mic button while you are running from the tank, lol.

Originally posted by Sam:
Call of Duty is, with the exception of pro teams in a tournament, effectively just a fragfest. It plays in a very arcadey style.
Bad company 2 on the other hand is seemingly a lot more serious, and the squad system does help there considerably.

Hmmm. Yes, I guess you're right. I do plan on getting back into COD4 mp, but the maps ARE pretty small. And I totally hate the Shipment map, with those big containers. Still - the map called Bog - I love that map. And the map called Rain is kind of nice. And I like the crossroads map - the one with the burned out tank on top. I guess I like most of the COD4 maps, actually. (Except Shipment - hate it!!!)

So when you say BC/2 uses the squad more - I guess that's the BF2 influence. BF2 to me is much larger maps - NOT non-stop action. You might go a while before running into anybody. And it pays to be on a squad, especially when there are no spawn points left except for your squad.

Originally posted by sam:
Edit: nah jeff, that's moderate for rich :P
True true true. I'll make this one shorter.


Originally posted by sam:
Modern Warfare 2, 30", 4xAA
2x HD6850: Min95, Ave114, 76ºC, 321W, £295
2x GTX460 1GB: Min86, Ave111, 88ºC, 431W, £285


Hmmmm. What single card will turn in the same performance - 6990?

Originally posted by red:
cross hairs floating in mid air completely unrealistic

Well, I like the cross hairs.

I know what you mean - BUT - with a real rifle in your arms - you can point it - and some people are damn good at "firing from the hip" without having to actually sight down the barrel. So let's face it - we aren't holding a rifle, our hand is on a mouse. Taking those floating sights off the screen doesn't make it all that much more realistic to me. :P

By the way, congrats to Red and to Jeff, on developing their high and improving skill levels.

Originally posted by sam from black ops numbers:
2560x1600 M50: Radeon HD6970(spec)/HD5970/2x6850, Geforce GTX580/2xGTX285/460


Wow - 6970 - maybe that's my new card (if I sell a house.)

Rich
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14. November 2010 @ 00:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After about 8 hours of crunching in a warm room my 5850 didn't get over 85C with the fan barely over half speed; sapphire's vapor-x stuff might actually be what they claim lol.





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14. November 2010 @ 00:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ATI have the exact same software that nvidia have -individual adjustment of red/green/blue and hue/saturation.

The HD6990 is not a single card. It is a dual GPU card based on two HD6870s (midrange), which is why it is not going to be very good compared to the 6970.



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The 76C stated at 2300rpm is ok-ish, but if it's reaching 85C at that fan speed that's very poor. The ATI stock cooler has a quieter fan to begin with, and cools to lower temperatures, at lower fan speeds.
Sapphire Vapor-X stuff is really terrible quality anyway, not that I knew any of this until a few months ago.



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14. November 2010 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by harvrdguy:
Wow,

I've been gone a bit - I'll try to catch up with a short (unlikely) post.

Originally posted by sam:
I don't really know what you mean about nvidia having colour and gamma control, ATI have the exact same, also at driver level. It's not difficult to find, and it works exactly the same way.

Not really, Sam. Nvidia has a wizard.

Before you guys say, "Wizard shmizard" let me describe it: The wizard gives you a huge color band going across the screen, with a box inside that you drag back and forth, attempting to match the hue of the dithered areas above and below. It does this separately for red, green and blue. The instructions tell you to unfocus your eyes, lol.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Ati has no wizard. From what I have found, Ati has a place to adjust gamma, with a range of colors - but not color by color on the primary colors. It seems to me that what the Catalyst Control Center comes with is not as good as that wizard.

And I have to say, that World at War, which I just finished, was an unbelievable visual treat, the whole way through, at full 2560x1600 and 4xAA (about 30-33 fps which works for me.)

Here's how much I loved it:
At one point, I realized that I had lost my front speakers in my 5.1 headset. I had already finished the game, and I was showing somebody the episode in the flying boat gunship (did we really have aircraft like that in WWII - that thing was AWESOME. I'll google it one day.) I have the old style Medusa 5.1 headset with the amp that lets you plug in another headset, so somebody can watch you play and listen through the own headset.

I realized that there was a lot of chatter "Wow, look at those propane tanks explode!" Etc Etc But I hadn't heard anything when I played it through the first time. This made me check - and I ended up reloading my chipset drivers which fixed the problem.

After replaying that chapter, I think the next one was Okinawa, and I was on the Expert setting, but I just kept going. (And it had been a huge hassle playing it through the first time on one setting below expert.) But anyway, the guns sounded so much better, and that's the chapter where you carry the SAW, that I just kept going. Plus I had a good night's sleep under me. Still - between burning down the bushes - dodging grenades by camping out in the spider holes a lot of the time - blowing everybody away with the SAW, it still took about 10 frustrating rounds to get to the first checkpoint. It's amazing what a good night's sleep, beautiful graphics, and lush 5.1 sound, can do to give you the patience to get through some tough expert levels. I played all the way through the Okinawa, loving it even more than before because of the repaired sound.

Anyway, what can I say - for a Treyarch game - I actually loved the damn thing!!!

And I blame most of that on the nvidia color and gamma wizard, which allowed me to create a lush visual experience - better than I have ever had before.

I sincerely believe that I have never had my color gamma corrected the way that I did this time, in 8 years of gaming. Some people say gamma is contrast. Apparently if you get the gamma correct on the primary colors - it makes a huge difference!

(You guys have said that COD4 is even better, so I'm going to be playing that through again, and I'll be finishing up Hells Highway too!)

So my main point is, the damn wizard seems to have really opened my eyes to the importance of gamma.

I don't think it's the 8800GTX card itself - I just think that the wizard allowed me to actually get the gamma straight for the first time - that's my whole point. So I will be looking for an equivalent - when I get back on an ati card maybe with this 6000 family.


Originally posted by sam:
I'm not sure how you have set up continuous broadcast for Left 4 Dead, normally it is push to talk as well.

Sam, check your L4D again. Left 4 Dead - on the audio control - allows you to select Always On. That is a great thing - you don't have to look for your mic button while you are running from the tank, lol.

Originally posted by Sam:
Call of Duty is, with the exception of pro teams in a tournament, effectively just a fragfest. It plays in a very arcadey style.
Bad company 2 on the other hand is seemingly a lot more serious, and the squad system does help there considerably.

Hmmm. Yes, I guess you're right. I do plan on getting back into COD4 mp, but the maps ARE pretty small. And I totally hate the Shipment map, with those big containers. Still - the map called Bog - I love that map. And the map called Rain is kind of nice. And I like the crossroads map - the one with the burned out tank on top. I guess I like most of the COD4 maps, actually. (Except Shipment - hate it!!!)

So when you say BC/2 uses the squad more - I guess that's the BF2 influence. BF2 to me is much larger maps - NOT non-stop action. You might go a while before running into anybody. And it pays to be on a squad, especially when there are no spawn points left except for your squad.

Originally posted by sam:
Edit: nah jeff, that's moderate for rich :P
True true true. I'll make this one shorter.


Originally posted by sam:
Modern Warfare 2, 30", 4xAA
2x HD6850: Min95, Ave114, 76ºC, 321W, £295
2x GTX460 1GB: Min86, Ave111, 88ºC, 431W, £285


Hmmmm. What single card will turn in the same performance - 6990?

Originally posted by red:
cross hairs floating in mid air completely unrealistic

Well, I like the cross hairs.

I know what you mean - BUT - with a real rifle in your arms - you can point it - and some people are damn good at "firing from the hip" without having to actually sight down the barrel. So let's face it - we aren't holding a rifle, our hand is on a mouse. Taking those floating sights off the screen doesn't make it all that much more realistic to me. :P

By the way, congrats to Red and to Jeff, on developing their high and improving skill levels.

Originally posted by sam from black ops numbers:
2560x1600 M50: Radeon HD6970(spec)/HD5970/2x6850, Geforce GTX580/2xGTX285/460


Wow - 6970 - maybe that's my new card (if I sell a house.)

Rich
its called the PBY Catalina think of it as the A-10 of WW2.

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14. November 2010 @ 02:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
The 76C stated at 2300rpm is ok-ish, but if it's reaching 85C at that fan speed that's very poor. The ATI stock cooler has a quieter fan to begin with, and cools to lower temperatures, at lower fan speeds.
Sapphire Vapor-X stuff is really terrible quality anyway, not that I knew any of this until a few months ago.
The image shows the max temps and fan speed, I just picked the highest of the four temps since I didn't know what was what. I thought those results were pretty good since I couldn't achieve that with my nvidia card, but it that's only okish I'd love to have a good one lol.


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DXR88, the catalinas were flying boats. the closes equivalent to an a10 for the allies would have been the RAF typhoons & tempests. the german equivalent would have been the tankbuster stuka mounting 2-37mm cannons.
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Originally posted by ddp:
DXR88, the catalinas were flying boats. the closes equivalent to an a10 for the allies would have been the RAF typhoons & tempests. the german equivalent would have been the tankbuster stuka mounting 2-37mm cannons.
they where flying boats with enough fire power to sink a Civilian Class Ship. i'm pretty sure they wouldn't have a problem with flattening enemy Armour.

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i think you are talking about british coastal command's Short Sunderland flying boats refered to the german uboat crews as flying porcupines because of all the guns she carried.
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Just got some friends together in a squad for several hours of BC2 today. Helped some noobs farm points and got to flex my brain. We got gold squad some 15 times :D

Last match we played was 10 minutes ago with us coming in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th place in order. Me in first :D:D:D

Whew fun fun



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Just got some friends together in a squad for several hours of BC2 today. Helped some noobs farm points and got to flex my brain. We got gold squad some 15 times :D

Last match we played was 10 minutes ago with us coming in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th place in order. Me in first :D:D:D

Whew fun fun
my BC2 name is Capt.Biggs. if you ever see me run, run far far away.

Capt.Biggs is the aliases i use for all my FPS multi-player profiles.

been using it since 1942, Battlefield that is.

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LOVING BO, its amazing. wager matched ftw.



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BO? Oh that one game that I've never played. Right. I totally forgot... :p



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Black Ops I think he means. Personally found it disappointing. The graphics are worse than WaW and the sound design is bleh. The multi is just more MW2 ie glitchy, limited, and mediocre. The story is good though.



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Just got some friends together in a squad for several hours of BC2 today. Helped some noobs farm points and got to flex my brain. We got gold squad some 15 times :D

Last match we played was 10 minutes ago with us coming in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th place in order. Me in first :D:D:D

Whew fun fun
Those matches are the best, in fact I only really enjoy BC2 when I play with friends. pwning everyone else is just icing on the cake :P


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Oh yeah it's a whole new ballgame when all 4 squadmates are in a group chat working out the strategy. We were dominating :)



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Two Worlds 2

1024x768 M10: Radeon X1800XL/HD2900 series/3690/4650/5570, Geforce 7800GS/8600GT/9500GT/GT220/430
1024x768 M20: Radeon HD2900XT/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600GSO/GT240/430
1024x768 M30: Radeon HD3870X2/4830/5670, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240/GTS450
1024x768 M40: Radeon HD3870X2/4770/5750, Geforce 8800GTS 512/9800GTX/GTS250/450
1024x768 M50: Radeon HD3870X2/4870/5770, Geforce 9800GTX+/GTS250/450
1024x768 M60: Radeon HD4890/5830/6850, Geforce 9800GX2/GTX260/GTS450

1280x1024 M10: Radeon X1900XT/HD2900 Pro/3690/4650/5570, Geforce 7900GT/8600GTS/9500GT/GT220/430
1280x1024 M20: Radeon HD3870/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600GSO/GT240/430
1280x1024 M30: Radeon HD3870X2/4770/5750, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GTS250/450
1280x1024 M40: Radeon HD3870X2/4870/5770, Geforce 9800GTX+/GTS250/450
1280x1024 M50: Radeon HD4890/5830/6850, Geforce 9800GX2/GTX260/GTS450
1280x1024 M60: Radeon HD4850X2/5830/6850, Geforce GTX280/460/560

1680x1050 M10: Radeon X1950XT-X/HD2900 Pro/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600 series/GT220/430
1680x1050 M20: Radeon HD3870/4830/5670, Geforce 8800GT/9600GT/GT240/430
1680x1050 M30: Radeon HD3870X2/4770/5750, Geforce 8800GTS 512/9800GTX/GTS250/450
1680x1050 M40: Radeon HD4890/5830/6850, Geforce 9800GX2/GTX260/GTS450
1680x1050 M50: Radeon HD4850X2/5830/6850, Geforce GTX280/460/560
1680x1050 M60: Radeon HD4870X2/5850/6870, Geforce GTX285/460/560

1920x1080 M10: Radeon HD2900 Pro/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600 series/GT220/430
1920x1080 M20: Radeon HD3870X2/4830/5750, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240/GTS450
1920x1080 M30: Radeon HD3870X2/4870/5770, Geforce 9800GTX+/GTS250/450
1920x1080 M40: Radeon HD4850X2/5830/6850, Geforce 9800GX2/GTX260-216/GTS450
1920x1080 M50: Radeon HD4870X2/5850/6850, Geforce GTX285/460/560
1920x1080 M60: Radeon HD4870X2/5870/6950(spec)/2x6850, Geforce GTX295/460 1GB/560

2560x1600 M10: Radeon HD3870X2/4830/5670, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240/430
2560x1600 M20: Radeon HD4890/5830/6850, Geforce 9800GX2/GTX260-216/GTS450
2560x1600 M30: Radeon HD4870X2/5870/6870, Geforce GTX295/465/560
2560x1600 M40: Radeon HD6950(spec)/2x5830/6850, Geforce GTX295/480/560
2560x1600 M50: Radeon HD5970/2x6850, Geforce GTX580/2xGTX285/460/560
2560x1600 M60: 2x Radeon HD5870/6870, 2x Geforce GTX470/560

Nothing too horrendous here.

James Bond: Blood Stone

1024x768 M10: Radeon X800GTO/X1600XT/HD2600XT/3470/4450/5450, Geforce 6800LE/7600GT/8600GT/9500GT/GT220/430
1024x768 M20: Radeon X1800GTO/HD2900 series/3650/4650/5570, Geforce 7800GT/8600GT/9500GT/GT220/430
1024x768 M30: Radeon X1900XT-X/HD2900 series/3690/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600 series/GT220/430
1024x768 M40: Radeon HD2900 Pro/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600GSO/GT240/430
1024x768 M50: Radeon HD2900XT/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GT/9600GT/GT240/430
1024x768 M60: Radeon HD3870/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240/GTS450

1280x1024 M10: Radeon X1800GTO/HD2600XT/3470/4450/5450, Geforce 6800 Ultra/7600GT/8600GT/9500GT/GT220/430
1280x1024 M20: Radeon X1800XT/HD2900 series/3690/4650/5570, Geforce 7900GT/8600GTS/9500GT/GT220/430
1280x1024 M30: Radeon X1950XT-X/HD2900 Pro/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600GSO/GT240/430
1280x1024 M40: Radeon HD2900 Pro/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GT/9600GT/GT240/430
1280x1024 M50: Radeon HD3870/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240/GTS450
1280x1024 M60: Radeon HD3870X2/4830/5670, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GTS250/450

1680x1050 M10: Radeon X1800GTO/HD2900 series/3650/4550/5450, Geforce 7800GS/8600GT/9500GT/GT220/430
1680x1050 M20: Radeon X1900XT/HD2900 series/3690/4650/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600 series/GT220/430
1680x1050 M30: Radeon HD2900 Pro/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600GSO/GT240/430
1680x1050 M40: Radeon HD2900XT/3870/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240/GTS450
1680x1050 M50: Radeon HD3870X2/4830/5670, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GTS250/450
1680x1050 M60: Radeon HD3870X2/4770/5750, Geforce 8800GTX/9800GTX/GTS250/450

1920x1080 M10: Radeon X1800XL/HD2900 series/3650/4650/5570, Geforce 7900GS/8600GT/9500GT/GT220/430
1920x1080 M20: Radeon X1950XT-X/HD2900 Pro/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600GSO/GT220/430
1920x1080 M30: Radeon HD2900XT/3850/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GT/9600GT/GT240/430
1920x1080 M40: Radeon HD3870/4830/5670, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GTS250/450
1920x1080 M50: Radeon HD3870X2/4830/5750, Geforce 8800GTS 512/9800GTX/GTS250/450
1920x1080 M60: Radeon HD3870X2/4770/5750, Geforce 9800GX2/GTX260/GTS450

2560x1600 M10: Radeon X1950XT/HD2900 series/3690/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GS/9600 series/GT220/430
2560x1600 M20: Radeon HD2900XT/3870/4670/5570, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240/430
2560x1600 M30: Radeon HD3870X2/4770/5750, Geforce 8800 Ultra/9800GTX/GTS250/450
2560x1600 M40: Radeon HD3870X2/4770/5750, Geforce 9800GX2/GTX260-216/GTS450
2560x1600 M50: Radeon HD4890/5830/6850, Geforce GTX280/460/560
2560x1600 M60: Radeon HD4850X2/5830/6850, Geforce GTX295/465/560

Blast from the past this one. Graphics cards of the age that they don't even have drivers for Windows 7 popping up with a respectable M30 at 1280x1024.



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http://www.techspot.com/review/336-cod-black-ops-performance/

very good atricle finding the GPU and CPU scaling on BO.



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Looks like my 260 can handle it at a respectable level. Is the game any good? I've never played any call of duty...





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good depends on your preferance in a game.

personally yes it is.



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Yeah COD:BO is not very demanding, but it's also not very good looking. Nice textures, but that's about it.
While BO goes some way to reverting the abysmal multiplayer experience of MW2, it is basically just COD4, but with a different setting.
Much like any other Activision franchise (Blizzard excluding) this is the same game, released every year, with minor content tweaks. Yet people are still in love with it.


I'm sceptical of that techspot article. There is a ridiculous negative skew of the results for the HD6800 series not mirrored in other tests. There is also far more nvidia bias than usually shows in Call of Duty benchmarks.



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Honestly, if they were to release a new "Legend of zelda: Ocarina of time" with everything rearranged and all new storyline, I'd be all over it. Much like poor movie sequels, I can't get enough LOL! Technology/code doesn't always need to advance for me to be all over it ;) I love particular 2 dimensional games :p



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Is true, but if you're going to release the same game without any change to the way it plays, at least upgrade the engine/graphics :P



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I've pretty much accepted Nvidia bias when reading reviews, and what not.

Did you receive that PM? Just wanna be sure there wasn't some screw up...



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Ah, just read it. Thanks for the offer, but it turns out Coolermaster have a european parts shop based in the Netherlands, where I was able to buy another set for ?9.50 delivered (about $13). This must be why they ignore support emails asking for replacement parts.

On the other hand, they may just ignore support emails full stop. A large number of other companies do (Sapphire being one of them).

And yeah sadly nvidia bias in reviews is very common, for several reasons
1: Release of new nvidia cards to reviewers for free testing is conditional on nvidia's official benchmark suite being in the review
2: nvidia have bribed several review sites out there
3: there is an increasing trend of games being actually nvidia-biased due to part-funding or bribes during their development. There is actually a 150% biasing factor in HAWX 2. AMD sent an email to every major review site requesting that this game be eliminated from test suites as it was unrepresentative of real world performance - it deliberately includes an inflated number of polygons that only the Fermi architecture, not Radeons (or older geforces for that matter) can handle.
4: ATI do sometimes make performance-drop drivers designed for stability increases. There have been several of those in recent months. When a site tests with the odd good release [i.e. the ones that everybody use] you usually see ATI earn a few more points.



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