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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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Any Flaming Results in a Temp Ban or Worse. Your Choice!!!
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29. July 2008 @ 04:33 |
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Call Of Duty is so badass on this new machine plus the 24" montior at 1920x1600 res. checked my temps after playing about 2 hours the system was running 34 C
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29. July 2008 @ 05:01 |
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Hi, just a quick question, which is better to buy Windows XP or Vista?
I haven't been hearing great reports about Vista.
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29. July 2008 @ 05:26 |
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Actually you can run a Q9450 and HD4870 on a 450W VX, no trouble. However, by laws of 'breathing room' you should have something bigger. The 650TX is good, but can't run two 4870s in crossfire as it doesn't have four 6-pin PCIe connectors. You can, however, do it with adapters.
Evastar: Most (but not all) of us prefer XP as there's very little it doesn't do that Vista does, and runs a lot faster.
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29. July 2008 @ 05:33 |
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Thanks Sam
I think we have more or less decided on what pc to go for, so can you take a look at these specs for me:
And just let me know if any of the components are really crap!
Thanks.
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29. July 2008 @ 05:39 |
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Ideally I'd avoid the EVGA KO graphics card. The 9600GT is a reasonable performer, but miles behind current cheap stuff like the HD4850, and EVGA's overclocked cards have had a dodgy reputation in the past. The X-Fi sound card might be a little excessive, but I forget which name means what, so I don't know quite how excessive it is.
The keyboard is also vastly expensive, you could probably save money by using something a little less 'profound'...
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29. July 2008 @ 05:45 |
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Yeah, i wanted him to go for the Radeon graphics card, but he thought the other one would be better.
I'll have another chat with him. Thanks Sam!
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29. July 2008 @ 05:46 |
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The 9600GT is about 10% or so slower than the 8800GT.
An HD4850 is as fast as two 8800GTs.
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29. July 2008 @ 06:09 |
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Thanks Sam
I moved to the graphics card thread, cos most of the other stuff seems to be ok.
He really wants that keyboard, so what the heck?!
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29. July 2008 @ 06:14 |
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Evastar,
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And just let me know if any of the components are really crap!
Everything looks good! Is there a large price difference between getting XP-Home and XP-Pro, SP-2? The reason I ask is that XP-Pro is the better program.
I noticed you asked about Vista in another post! Vista is slower than XP and overly complicated in my opinion, particularly in the Control Panel. Why they need 50 or more Icons to do the same job around 30 do with XP, is beyond me. They've even complicated it worse by changing a lot of the icons from the familiar ones we've known to something we now have to try and figure out what the heck it is! Worse yet is the security! I recently missed out on about 2 hours or so, that I could have enjoyed with my Daughter and my 5 grandchildren in the pool thanks to it taking that long before I could validate the larger hard drive I installed in her Acer Ferrari laptop! I converted it to XP-Pro, SP-2 that evening! They (M$) can keep their Big-Brother mentality security crap, we don't need being told what we can and cannot do with our own computer that we Paid for with our own money.
I went to install PowerDVD 7 on my Acer Vista Laptop and got an error message saying that "There is a compatibility problem with the Software you are trying to install. Certain features of the software may not work! It is recommended that you do not install this software"! No where did it say anything about it harming the computer! I installed the program and the first time I ran it, it tied the computer up in a knot! I re-booted and Vista came up fine. I went to Add Remove Programs and uninstalled PowerDVD 7. It wouldn't un-install! The computer kept crashing! I had to spend almost $40 to get a Recovery Disk, just so I could make the computer work again!
Can you tell why I'm not a Vista fan? LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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29. July 2008 @ 06:19 |
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Hi theonejrs
The only reason i went for that XP was because it was the only XP available on that build. I think they're trying to phase it out or something.
I already have microsoft office on this computer, so i might just run the discs again on the new one. Is that ok to do?
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29. July 2008 @ 06:29 |
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Evastar,
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I already have microsoft office on this computer, so i might just run the discs again on the new one. Is that ok to do?
It should work just fine with the XP-Home. They'll be another New Version of XP-Pro coming pretty soon anyway. Last I heard it was to be called "XP-Pro Vista Edition", that has most of the features people like about Vista without all the security junk and the need to validate that new DVD Burner or hard drive you just bought!
Good luck with it,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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29. July 2008 @ 07:22 |
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Let's hope it's only the best bits, not only the worst bits... :P
It would be ideal if they offered DX10 support for XP, but I doubt that'll ever happen...
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29. July 2008 @ 07:24 |
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XP is great and all but we really need to move forward. I personally dont use Vista because YES it does use more resources. To some that's fine, but on a low powered Laptop I needed all the power I could get from it.
Hopefully Windows 7 will be better.
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29. July 2008 @ 07:27 |
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I eventually plan on putting Vista on my gaming PC. I'll see how it goes then.
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29. July 2008 @ 07:58 |
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with vista now, i dont need to go back to XP, and never will.
i love it (simply put)
everything seems so much more snapier, esp after SP1.
and XP looks crap compared to it :D
ill never move back, and ive had no problems, bar 64bit nvidia drivers.
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29. July 2008 @ 08:01 |
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Snappier? Lmao. I guess you've forgotten how much faster XP is... :P
Anyway, I'm off for a day and a bit, going round to a friend's place, so I'll be AFK until tomorrow night. Have fun everyone! :)
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29. July 2008 @ 08:10 |
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aye snappier.
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29. July 2008 @ 08:24 |
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Originally posted by krj15489:
ok thanks. I need to stop buying the smallest psu that will work and just buy a nice big one like the 750VX.
YES!!!!! That's what I've said before. ;) It's like the guy that bought the Porsche 930 Slantnose, he didn't need it to drive the normal speeds required by law!! BUT if he chose to do 150mph he could and would. ROFL!!!! :P
Just make sure you can run the specified components if you get a "bigger" psu. :) IF adapters are needed the so be it!! :)
shaff... You and LOCO are about the only guys that I know that have Vista... You really like it huh?? Do you have the "security" thingy turned off?? Sorry don't know the actual name. :)
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29. July 2008 @ 10:04 |
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yep, first thing was turn UAC off. i dotn even need a firewall, as the windows one is brilliant.
the security is brilliant. i remmember XP, i wouldnt dare do anything for the net before i got a FireWall. XP would BSOD like mental with any installation, till SP2. id say vista is the most stable OS i have had :)
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29. July 2008 @ 13:26 |
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29. July 2008 @ 13:35 |
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that is the psu i meant to say. 750tx not vx. even though it might be overkill the price is just to good. but i will try getting the new parts on my current psu before upgrading.
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29. July 2008 @ 14:33 |
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29. July 2008 @ 14:42 |
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That is an old card. it is easily outperformed by the 4870 which costs $285.
GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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29. July 2008 @ 14:45 |
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HAHA looks like that hasnt dropped in price HAHA
the $150 (after rebates) 4850 trumps it :)
MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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29. July 2008 @ 14:53 |
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ahh oh yeah, i was just doing my weekly OCCT test run, and found in everest a vista side bar gadet, which is frankly Superb :)
AND it should by rails.
so here we go:
3.3V :3.3280
5V :5.0160
12V :11.9840
All are WITHIN 1% of the Rails, and this is at 100% about half way through the OCCT test with my rig below :)
will others please post theirs, so we can see which PSU have the better rails, for better recomendations to people who ask for new PSUs? (not to forget gloating for the person witht he best PSU :P )
MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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