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All I do is go to the MSDN Academic Alliance site, register for a new key, and I basically get unlimited copies of 7 Pro, Home Premium, XP Pro 32 and 64, and Vista Ultimate and Home Premium.

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Originally posted by creaky:

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What you should boycott is Auto Updates, Win7, like XP before it, seems to be totally stable, for me anyways, and as you all know by now i vehemently oppose Auto Updates. But Win7 is too nice to boycott :)

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Estuansis :P :P :P

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All very well, but you do realise that's only available to people studying computing right? Enough brags... :(

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Originally posted by erkrow22:

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Thanks to everyone who helped me pick out the parts for the pc I'll be trying to put together in my previous posts in this thread. One question I'd like to ask though, is what OS should I use? Win 7 is out but is obviously expensive. I could try getting that student upgrade DVD but its suppose to be for upgrades from older Win OS and I only have an OEM ME disc ha. I did read that if I got it i could install a 30 day trial and then reinstall over it with the Key. Is that correct? not sure if I if 32bit or 64bit either. Any advice on these issues would be of great help as its the last thing I'll need. Thanks Again

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Creaky,
Why? Boycotting Win 7 would show Fat Bill that he has to bend to our will, not the other way around. You don't seem to understand that there are upgrades that they will put in, in spite of your efforts! You can't keep M$ out of your computer if you are on line, I don't care what you turn off! Your comment about Win 7 being too nice to boycott, is exactly the problem. You don't need it, you won't die without it, it's just the greed of your want vs your real needs!

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Same thing for Oman 7. You both are typical of today in that you want to talk a good fight, but you don't want to put in the effort it's going to take, or give up anything. Let someone else do it, you have what you want! Change requires sacrifice! It's that simple! What's it going to take? Six months to a year for something worth while? If Win 7 doesn't sell in large numbers they will have to change the way they are doing Business.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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In the real world, people gave their lives for the freedoms we have today! Welcome to the new version or Orwell's 1984! Pogo said it right, "We have met the enemy and they is us"! Think about what I said today come 10 years from now, when everything you do with computers is mandated by the various governments around the world. Where you go, who you can talk to, what you can and cannot see or do. It's all about controlling the masses and That's enslavement! We've truly become, the marching Morons! http://www.wattpad.com/111513-The-Marching-Morons-C-M-Kornbluth

People need to wake up and grow a spine!

Russ

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Russ, the current state of computing is far from slavery and many of these intrusive technologies are actively being fought against. Using Win XP isn't doing much except limiting your transfer speeds and whatnot. I honestly can't see why you are passing around a copy of Sandra obviously from a P2P network but then you simply boycott Windows 7. If you need to illegitimately obtain Sisoft's software to get your desired results, then why is Microsoft exempt from the same treatment?

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Originally posted by creaky:

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Creaky,
Why? Boycotting Win 7 would show Fat Bill that he has to bend to our will, not the other way around. You don't seem to understand that there are upgrades that they will put in, in spite of your efforts! You can't keep M$ out of your computer if you are on line, I don't care what you turn off! Your comment about Win 7 being too nice to boycott, is exactly the problem. You don't need it, you won't die without it, it's just the greed of your want vs your real needs!

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My comment on boycotting Auto Updates was obviously not a serious one. I'm just illustrating that my systems are just fine without having extra and constant updates added. I'll concede that my XP has a handful of updates from the time time of SP2 as the install disc i have contains a few, plus of course there's various updates in SP2. Then there's the huge amount of code in the base OS itself. None of this i can know about or do anything about it. I simply do not want any further restrictions/DRM/whatever added to my systems (unless the OSes are unstable, which they're not). Hence why i don't use Auto Updates/allow anything on my machines i don't want. Example - new versions of MSN Messenger sometimes require you to allow Microsoft Updates on your machine before you can install it. I just install older versions that don't force install things. However i no longer use Messenger anyway, i use Amsn and Pidgin across my fleet now.

Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Same thing for Oman 7. You both are typical of today in that you want to talk a good fight, but you don't want to put in the effort it's going to take, or give up anything. Let someone else do it, you have what you want! Change requires sacrifice! It's that simple! What's it going to take? Six months to a year for something worth while? If Win 7 doesn't sell in large numbers they will have to change the way they are doing Business.

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I don't appreciate being called a sheep :) ..i use Win7 because i can, it just happens i like it. Don't forget i refused to ever use Vista, and whilst i have no experience of my own with it due to not using it, the masses rejected it. I love XP, i loved Win95 and Win98 (and most DOS versions before them); i hated WinMe, see i know a dud when i see or use it.
I'm far from being a sheep, i use an OS because i can, not because i'm one of half the planet that thinks they need an upgrade. Take Ubuntu for example, the masses think Ubuntu is the linux, it's only because all the kids use it and they use it because everyone they know, uses it, it's the 'radio friendly' OS of the linux world. Doesn't mean it's crap or any less an OS than other linuxes (i do use it from time to time in fact), the sheep in society think of linux and think there is only Ubuntu.
I didn't start or ever want to progress my career in the world of PC's, i started out in Mainframes, i started using PC's at the same time (1987), and over the years when Windows use skyrocketed worldwide i never once wanted to work in that field, despite being able to use Dos/Windows/PC's as good as anyone. I have always thought of careers in anything Microsoft-derived as being a career of the sheep. Just my opinion, i can use a mouse as good as anyone. Hence why i chose Unix as my next career where half the planet wants to be Microsoft certified and work with PC's etc. I just wanted a serious career.
Anyways, just explaining that i'm far from being a sheep. Oh and that's why i don't use Apple pc hardware (never have)/Apple music players etc, the classic brand for the sheep, those with too much money and no sense, aesthetics over substance.

Originally posted by theonejrs:

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In the real world, people gave their lives for the freedoms we have today! Welcome to the new version or Orwell's 1984! Pogo said it right, "We have met the enemy and they is us"! Think about what I said today come 10 years from now, when everything you do with computers is mandated by the various governments around the world. Where you go, who you can talk to, what you can and cannot see or do. It's all about controlling the masses and That's enslavement! We've truly become, the marching Morons! http://www.wattpad.com/111513-The-Marching-Morons-C-M-Kornbluth

People need to wake up and grow a spine!

Russ

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Now this i agree with, it's already in motion (whether it's technology/politics/police state/erosion of laws and constitutions and rights/and we're not very far (a few years) away from their 'endgame' so to speak (unless of course pneumonic plague, bird/swine flu, ebola etc don't get us first (funny how some of those are long 'extinct' diseases that have coincidentally started appearing in parts of the world, anyone remember anthrax in the US a few years ago, where it was apparently traced back to only one laboratory)). All of this is accelerating, the oh so accidental release of deadly viruses (not computer viruses!), conflicts that are engineered to reduce liberties/enforce control etc etc. The one aspect in which i was a little sheep-like, was always the news/world events, for the last few weeks i've been decided not to watch the so called mainstream news and take it as gospel, then further switch off my brain and go play console games or other such useless activities, but i go looking for facts about what is happening around us and why. A few factual documentaries were all it took to shock me out of my skin. I still play pointless console games and mess abut with PC's, but only as short distractions, i can now see thru a lot of mainstream media articles/events and see behind them, and in some ways i wish i didn't know what i've come to learn, but without a lobotomy i'm stuck with it!).

Anyways, my spine is fine, to bring this back to topic you don't seriously think i actually buy OSes do you :p

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