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6. November 2009 @ 12:58 |
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I tried reading the story on the 3 srikes link, it keeped frezzing on me, maybe good it did, my neck viens started to sweel.
Russ your points were right on the money, I feel your passion, but I don't think many really get it, please do not anybody get offended when he mentioned us a sheep, I did not see it pointed to anybody, it's like he said just a metahpor, the sad thing is though it's the truth, I myself to am guilty, now that I'm just an old fart I have gotten lazy, in the 60's even though I did not agree about every protest the young one's did help change many things including getting us out of that war my butt included, two years there was enough for me, we did shake things up though didn't we lol.
I think we all have gotten to confortable with our lives, it's let the others get involved mentality, the proplem when we all think that there is no others, but the rich just keep on moving forward, they don't have to do thier own dirty work, they hire others to get in the trenches and do it for them.
Sad as it is I don't think people will get on the bandwagon like Russ says should be done till many start losing thier shelter and food on the table, ever chase a rat, it runs from you, ever corner one, it will leap at you, in other words I don't think this generation will move till the s#@t hits the fan unfortunatly, some times it takes one really to get pissed off to create desire and passion.
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6. November 2009 @ 15:40 |
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Originally posted by creaky: No apology necessary Russ, hence why i put a smiley in there.
What i forgot to put in there was my opinion on endless upgrades, but then i've posted on that before, i am the king of onboard video, and i wring every bit of life out of old kit many years after it's classed as ancient.
Currently i'm using (regularly) ~
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Quad (still loving the Q6600 machine, can't believe it's over two years old), Geforce 6100 - XP
Dell Optiplex 745 SFF (C2D E6400), onboard video - Win7
Dell Optiplex 745 SFF (C2D E6400), onboard video - Win7/Puppy Linux 4.20 SMP
Athlon 2800XP, Geforce MX400 or 440 series - Puppy Linux 4.21
Dell GX150 (P3 1GHz), Geforce MX400 or 440 series - XP and Puppy Linux 4.21
Laptops ~
Acer Aspire One netbook - XP
Dell (P4 2GHz) - XP and Puppy Linux 4.21
Dell (P3 500 or 600 Celeron) - Solaris 9
Toshiba (P3 600MHz) - Puppy Linux 4.21
I'm not salesman friendly, i make old stuff last and i hardly ever upgrade. The above list doesn't count the half dozen old P3/P4 spare machines, some of them still work fine but they have no use/i can't possibly use any more machines :p
Creaky,
This isn't a reference to Sheep, but can we Clone you? :)
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6. November 2009 @ 15:44 |
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Sure, but why ?
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6. November 2009 @ 16:34 |
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Originally posted by creaky: Sure, but why ?
Creaky,
Because you've rediscovered Practicality, and proudly demonstrate it's advantages in a world full of Excess!
Quote: Ask yourself what an 11 year old needs from a C2D or higher. If it's a reasonable price then fair do's, but IMHO £400+ for an 11 year old is crazy, sorry but you did ask for suggestions :)
Plus look at my list of machines, i can do most proper tasks on the older kit, the C2D's and the Quad are niceties, they're not necessary or required for day to day computer use .
You've made good use out of computers that the average person would throw in the trash as useless! Good for you!
Warmest Regards,
Russ
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6. November 2009 @ 16:40 |
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Oh i see, thanks, i'm just a bit old fashioned in some ways :).
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7. November 2009 @ 00:31 |
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can't clone me as i'm 1 of a kind.
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7. November 2009 @ 01:10 |
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Originally posted by ddp: can't clone me as i'm 1 of a kind.
Meh, I've met your type. Plenty to go around LOL! Totally joking.
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7. November 2009 @ 01:21 |
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Quote: I guess you haven't though things through very well! I have 5 computers in this house at the moment. The cost of getting a one at a time use for my $291 is prohibitive! Even if I could wrangle a 20% discount for buying 5, it would still cost well over $1100 to run Win 7 Ultimate on all of them. That's ridiculous!
Haha point taken friend! I myself am running 3 PCs + my parents' laptop. The price is ludicrous I agree.
Quote: That includes XP-Pro. The very same XP-Pro that the key numbers got destroyed because it was under a desk and got rubbed off by feet rubbing against it gently while it was there. I even sent the receipt for the purchase, the CD and what was left of the sticker which came mounted on the side of the computer, and the thanks for my loyalty to Micro$oft was being told to go suck an egg! That's 7 or 8 versions of Windows I paid for and supported Micro$oft with. God knows exactly how many versions of DOS, MS Works and M$ office I've paid for as well. Even my most recent version, was paid for. It breaks my heart that Bill Gates is down to his last 10 Billion or so. Vista cost him a bunch and it was a flop, so now he's making everybody pay because people turned their back on it!
Microsoft has had questionable business practices from the very start so I don't see why you would expect any customer loyalty. To them you are just a serial number and nothing else! I also have paid for every version of Windows I have ever used bar a short trial with pirated Windows Vista which went unused anyway and thus would have been a waste of my money. I have paid the very same $99 as you for several copies of XP Pro. I understand why the price for this new OS is absolutely retarded and will hurt business for Microsoft in the long run. It is not good to increase the price of your products when people are struggling to afford it already!
And AFAIK Bill Gates is still worth about 65 billion last time I checked! Can you provide your source for the 10 billion? I would be very interested to read it.
Quote: I have very few pirated copies of software, and most of them are older versions that I happen to like. I've also hacked a few myself, but I've never given those out or put them on p2p sites, and I never will!
I DO pay for something if it's reasonably priced and worth the cost. I buy games if they're programmed and supported properly and the same applies for Windows! I like to support developers who do good work! I don't think Windows 7 is anywhere near worth the price but it does offer benefits! Admittedly I actually obtained my copy legally but upon seeing the prices I had initially planned to obtain it through other means. If the price isn't justified even slightly then simply don't pay the price!
I keep a dedicated torrenting machine with 2.5TB of storage and that is storge for roughly 500GB of games and the rest is fansubbed Japanese animation and literature that will probably never see an English translation or release!
By national copyright laws the anime/manga I have is even legal because it is not reasonably obtainable in this country or practical to obtain. I would have pay huge shipping fees to import it and not only is it regional(PAL), but it's still in the original Japanese with no subtitles or official translation(books). And even then some of it just isn't available in a hard copy at all.
What is available I have most definitely purchased and I have another separate bookcase just dedicated to my DVD collection! AND FTR a lot of my manga is already openly distributed on the web through direct download on sites acknowledged by their respective governments.
Yes you heard me right guys I COLLECT A LOT OF ANIME AND MANGA. I'm not a total freak like some might be but I am fond of the medium :P
Also FTR I keep my huge collection of books in boxes in my closet because I'm out of shelf space :P
I hate piracy of quality material and I will always try to buy something if it is worth the purchase.
Quote: By the way, I still have the Beta copy of Win 95, and it was far superior to the final product we eventually got!
I would be interested to see what it's like remembering my past experiences with Win 95. What in your eyes makes it superior?
Alas the release of Windows 95 is far before my time. Not before my birth, but way before I ever started building PCs as a hobby.
Quote: To those that say that it's useless to fight, might I remind them that it was the fighters that doomed Vista! We have Win 7 today and a long extension of XP, because enough people voted with their wallets and wouldn't accept it!
My suggestion of piracy isn't far from that. Do you have any idea what percentage of DIY Windows Vista installs were pirated? Piracy contributed significantly to its demise because people simply refused to pay for it! This is also a problem for quality software devs but I can proudly say I support the people who deserve the money.
Quote: You and I both have been around to block, several times in our lives. I don't know about you, but I learned quite a few life lessons the hard way. I grew up poor, thanks to an Alcoholic father and had to fend for myself from the age of 14 on. I was an Auto Mechanic, because my father and his father before him were Auto Mechanics. I only got into Dental/Medical by accident and just being in the right place at the right time and the right circumstances. I didn't have to be a rocket scientist to see the potential for a much better life, so I worked hard and was well rewarded for my efforts. We've both seen tough times over the years, but nothing like what is going on today.
This isn't to me but I thought it deserved comment. I also didn't grow up in the most ideal of conditions. My family has been driven to bankruptcy more than once because of my mother's gambling addiction(which she has thankfully shaken for good after 20+ odd years and therapy). And at the same time the vast medical bills from my dad's gauntlet of surgeries including removal of a brain tumor, removal of his left eye after a lifetime of being blind in it and open-heart to replace a leaking valve and the entire aorta.
The only reason we are not a homeless or broken family today is largely due to inhuman tolerance and love on the part of my father and ingenius financial maneuvering the credit for which admittedly goes to my mother.
I never had to quite fend for myself and have always had a roof over my head, but from when I was 14-17 I was giving up almost every single cent of my paychecks to buy groceries and pay bills when rightly I shouldn't have had to. My father is currently badly disabled, unemployed and still fighting for disability.
Never forget that you are not alone Russ. I know full well what limited or no money is like. There were times where I would have considered my family absolutely dirt poor and there were even a few eviction notices that we just barely escaped because I gave up my own spending money. We even spent a long time in 2006 with no internet or phone service and we have had our water and lighting cut more than once as well.
Only in the last 2 years or so have I really started to build PCs and buy all those other electronic sins. Even then there is a large proportion of my possessions which I probably should never have bought just because I could be doing better things with my money. And what's more I've got a slowly growing savings in the bank. I am feeling the economic squeeze just as bad as everyone else except I finally have enough income to fuel my hobbies. Things have gotten a bit better for my family financially after our bankruptcy last year. My mother's paycheck now covers the bills and house payments if just barely. Luckily we can cover our home because my parents can probably never get a loan again :S
So when you make your point, Russ, that Windows 7 is too expensive, I stand behind you 100%. $300 is an extortionate amount of money to pay for a piece of home software especially when it costs MS about $3 worth of materials to produce. At even $100 it would still be expensive but at the very least reasonable.
Sorry if this is a bit long winded but I feel it is important you understand what kind of person I am and where I am coming from. I may be just a young kid to you but I've aged beyond my years. I understand the plight of this world and its failing economy better than first impressions might imply. Hell, some people even take me as stupid because of some of my quirks. But when I can take the time and get my thoughts down in writing people are surprised. So when I say something please don't take my first impression as who I am or how I think because I'm much deeper than that.
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7. November 2009 @ 12:34 |
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The thing is we will readily pay that much for a CPU/GPU etc, but in the end after a year we will upgrade those, the OS stays for atleast 3 years, and probably is the most important part, like the PSU.
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7. November 2009 @ 14:42 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis: Sorry if this is a bit long winded but I feel it is important you understand what kind of person I am and where I am coming from. I may be just a young kid to you but I've aged beyond my years. I understand the plight of this world and its failing economy better than first impressions might imply. Hell, some people even take me as stupid because of some of my quirks. But when I can take the time and get my thoughts down in writing people are surprised. So when I say something please don't take my first impression as who I am or how I think because I'm much deeper than that.
You convey my feelings and describe the reasons I lurk more than post...I thought this was a hobby at first but as I became the one to fix my friends machines and make a side business in this corner of the world I decided to see where it could take me and now have CompTIA A+, Network+ certifications along with server management experience and thats before having any formal training or real job in the IT industry.
Keep it up Estuansis because your not the only one to have something inside thats hard to convey to others...
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Originally posted by Deadrum33: Originally posted by Estuansis: Sorry if this is a bit long winded but I feel it is important you understand what kind of person I am and where I am coming from. I may be just a young kid to you but I've aged beyond my years. I understand the plight of this world and its failing economy better than first impressions might imply. Hell, some people even take me as stupid because of some of my quirks. But when I can take the time and get my thoughts down in writing people are surprised. So when I say something please don't take my first impression as who I am or how I think because I'm much deeper than that.
You convey my feelings and describe the reasons I lurk more than post...I thought this was a hobby at first but as I became the one to fix my friends machines and make a side business in this corner of the world I decided to see where it could take me and now have CompTIA A+, Network+ certifications along with server management experience and thats before having any formal training or real job in the IT industry.
Keep it up Estuansis because your not the only one to have something inside thats hard to convey to others...
Deadrum33,
It's refreshing to see to these old eyes! I applaud both of you for your passion and dedication to your goals!
Warmest Regards,
Russ
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7. November 2009 @ 20:38 |
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I already have my A+ and I'm going for an Associates Degree in IT Networking. Luckily school is only a few hours a day so I can work early in the morning, go school in the afternoon, and have most of the afternoon and the evening to do whatever I want. I do make some decent money especially when the cranberry marshes are going. I was able to add a lot to my savings this year and I don't need to upgrade any of my PCs yet so I'm sitting alright now. I was able to qualify for the Pell Grant which completely paid for school and then some.
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Originally posted by shaffaaf: The thing is we will readily pay that much for a CPU/GPU etc, but in the end after a year we will upgrade those, the OS stays for atleast 3 years, and probably is the most important part, like the PSU.
Shaff,
The thing is you do pay that much for a CPU/GPU, but neither of them dictate how you can use it, or what you can do with it. GM just sent me an attached bios flash for a DVD burner! I can't download it because Microsoft has deemed it potentially unsafe, and blocked it permanently. This is an email from a trusted contact! They won't even give me the option of deciding whether it is safe or not. There's such a thing as being ridiculously overzealous, with the power to deny you anything you want to do! It's my money that bought the OS and it's my money that paid for the computer! What gives them the right to make this decision for me? Next thing they will be blocking is something I want to download but can't because they won't let me! How far away is it, where Microsoft decides what websites we can visit? Just remember one thing! Absolute power corrupts, and Bill Gates wants absolute power!
Russ
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8. November 2009 @ 01:01 |
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IICR bill gates stepped down.
Thats windows live that wont let you send .zip/.rar files, NOT the OS. There isnt much that a windows OS doesnt allow you to do.
If you really dont like them, why not just use linux or mac then?
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8. November 2009 @ 01:18 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf: IICR bill gates stepped down.
Thats windows live that wont let you send .zip/.rar files, NOT the OS. There isnt much that a windows OS doesnt allow you to do.
If you really dont like them, why not just use linux or mac then?
shaff,
You miss the whole point! Windows Live is Micro$oft! Micro$oft is Bill Gates, stepped down or not! Paying $281 for Win 7 Pro, or $291 for Win 7 Ultimate still only allows one computer to use it. With Ultimate you can install it on another computer, after you uninstall it from the first one. You can't re-use it if you sell it and build another computer. You have to pay again! And again! And again!!! It's extortion! BTW! You most certainly can send zip, rar or 7zip files. Maybe you can't with Vista, But I do it all the time with hotmail and XP-Pro! Several times a week, in fact!
Why not use Linux or a Mac? Because I don't have enough time left to learn and effectively use it, that's why!
Russ
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Yeah MSN is crap too. I use Steam chat because steam is lightweight and I can voice chat with my friends while playing non steam games. Star Wars Empire at War is a blast online when you turn the unit cap off. Pidgin also works good and Xfire.
Windows is actually fairly nonrestrictive. Microsoft's own basic application software is. I'm currently running hacked drivers for my soundcard and not s single complaint.
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why use it and then complain when there are many alternatives then russ?
Also as PC builders we jsut need to buy the OEM version, and why would anyone need ultimate? Home premium is perfect, and that in OEM flavour is $106. when you want to reinstall jsut reinstall. i have used my OEM key before, (esp for XP) multiple times. if its blocked, a simple automated phonecall does the job aswell.
PS the RETAIL ultimate $300 copy you are talking abotu CAN be reinstalled and uses mulitple times, no questions asked. and it can be sold on aswell, the OEM cannnot.
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I must admit, I'm cheesed off with MS as the latest patch for Windows Live messenger makes all the other software garbage that used to be optional, now mandatory. Apart from having 9-10 unwanted applications installed, this also meant about 50MB of download before I could use messenger again. Not impressed. I'm no fan of MS conspiracy theories (hence avoiding the last page of discussion) but there are some things that annoy me. Quite frankly though Russ, you're an MS hater, yet you use hotmail. This baffles me, hotmail isn't even good.
Steam chat is pretty stripped down, my main messaging client between friends is Skype. Msn is useful as a generic client to interface with other AIM/YIM/MSN users.
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Shaff, are you saying that If I buy the OEM edition, and my mainboard quits, I can reinstall on a new machine? I sure would hate to have to buy a new Key just because a dead motherboard...
The reason I ask is, Im gonna buy the Home edition soon, and I am a bit nervous that my Mainboard could quit sooner than later LOL!
If not hotmail, whats better? I think hotmail is adequate.
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when its due to a fault to mobo, MS will reactivate it. Thats like the main excuse i give on the phone to them, if the automated service wont work (only didnt work once)
PS Gmail>hotmail
edit, sam i have not needed to install all the essentials, only live messenger, when i upgraded.....
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Thanks buddy.
Gmail eh, never gave that a shot. Probably cause everyone knows me as a Hotmail address.
I installed Messenger recently. It gave me options as to what I wanted to install...
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For reference, X38-DS4->X48-DS5, X48-DS5->Maximus II Formula, Maximus II Formula->X48-DS4, none of these transitions have caused me to need to reactivate, but then I've never had a legitimate version to start with until the RC of Win7 which has always been on the X48-DS4.
Agreed on Gmail > Hotmail, has been since I signed up in 2004.
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Yeah I've switched out boards several times with several versions of WIndows. 9/10 times you can use Driver Sweeper to clear out the old drivers after uninstall and seamlessly install the new ones. Not a single performance or compatibility issue. Theoretically you can even do it between Intel and AMD but I'd recommend a reformat.
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Originally posted by sammorris: I must admit, I'm cheesed off with MS as the latest patch for Windows Live messenger makes all the other software garbage that used to be optional, now mandatory. Apart from having 9-10 unwanted applications installed, this also meant about 50MB of download before I could use messenger again. Not impressed. I'm no fan of MS conspiracy theories (hence avoiding the last page of discussion) but there are some things that annoy me. Quite frankly though Russ, you're an MS hater, yet you use hotmail. This baffles me, hotmail isn't even good.
Steam chat is pretty stripped down, my main messaging client between friends is Skype. Msn is useful as a generic client to interface with other AIM/YIM/MSN users.
Sam,
I didn't used to hate M$, back when they treated people right. I've had Hotmail for years without difficulty or problems. It's only in the last year or so that they started forcing upgrades on us. They can be very vindictive if you refuse them by not allowing mail to get through either direction. I've been refusing the latest upgrade because I'm going to install 64 bit XP-Pro, some time next week, and don't want to have to do it twice. Now all of a sudden half my sent mail never gets there. I'm not kidding either. Just ask Fred, Rick or Gina, among others.
I have a gmail account, but that's just Spam City. I think my personal record is 147 pieces of Spam in one day! Google sells you out! Just today I had to use it because Will wasn't getting my Hotmail while I was on line with him. I'm just hoping that once I install the new OS, that things will work right again. Like you say I also link to other IM services as well as WLM, and I do like the hands free talking! Much better than things used to be!
I know there is problems with my XP that started with the Southbridge problem I had with one of the motherboards I had before this one. Nothing serious like crashes or anything like that but I lost about 30% of my software due to the drive errors I was encountering, because of that. Most of it was backed up though. There are a number of minor glitches I've been putting up with for a few months now that will go away with a fresh OS install.
Russ
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