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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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8. November 2009 @ 10:19 |
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Guys, i have a request, can any of you who still use DVD Shrink look thru this link ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/811719/4911829 - the last part about Visual Basic 6.0 SP5 run-time files. Can you post in there (only if you use DVD Shrink) with your findings re whether or not you use Auto Updates and whether a few of the files in the MS link exist on your machines (i'm not asking you search for all the files). I only looked for Msvbvm?0.dll personally.
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8. November 2009 @ 12:06 |
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My gmail started picking up spam once I started using it in all the websites I sign up to, that's to be expected, it's not google's fault, that's just how email is. 99.8-99.9% of spam is correctly placed in the spam folder anyway, so I don't see what the problem is.
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8. November 2009 @ 12:32 |
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Sam,
That's the thing, I don't use it! Maybe twice a month when Hotmail is giving me grief and won't send mail! I don't email to sites or anything like that, yet I go in there and all there is, is BS Spam! I put it in as a backup to Hotmail, and didn't touch it for more than a month. I was stunned when I went there the first time and found all this useless BS garbage in it!
Russ
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8. November 2009 @ 12:46 |
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I only check my Gmail via Outlook so anything Google fails to spot (normally about one of the twenty spam emails I get a year) Outlook casts aside anyway.
I've only ever used my Hotmail (well Windows Live these days) account to login to MSN and that gets an unbelievable amount of spam. I'm putting that down to sites that ask ignorant people for their MSN login and passwords then go on to steal all their contacts though.
I could put something funny here but I cant be arsed. Now GO AWAY! This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. November 2009 @ 12:48
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8. November 2009 @ 12:55 |
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Originally posted by keith1993:
I only check my Gmail via Outlook so anything Google fails to spot (normally about one of the twenty spam emails I get a year) Outlook casts aside anyway.
I've only ever used my Hotmail (well Windows Live these days) account to login to MSN and that gets an unbelievable amount of spam. I'm putting that down to sites that ask ignorant people for their MSN login and passwords then go on to steal all their contacts though.
Maybe it has something to do with the ISP! I get almost no Spam at all in Hotmail, and I've had this email address for over 4 years. Before that it was Netscape mail, which I stopped using when AOL was running Netscape.
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8. November 2009 @ 12:55 |
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Indeed, I get spam in my inbox with msn, which forces me to try and sift through it, with gmail it's tucked away in the spam folder, so I never need even look at it. You have no idea how useful googlesearching through all the emails you've received in 5 years can be.
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11. November 2009 @ 19:20 |
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ive been loking at alot of 1156 platform mobo's and alot of them are saying this
"Onboard Video Chipset=None"
just what does that mean??? i know it allows you to run SLI or Crossfire which ever you wish? as you all knwo im not that much of a game at all. would this hinder the board with just a average run of the mill GPU?
doesnt really matter if your buying or putting a GPU on it right?
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11. November 2009 @ 20:32 |
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Rob,
It wouldn't hinder the motherboard, just the power of the graphics. I know you don't play much games, so I can't see you getting anything in a super killer video card. Whatever video card you decide, be sure it has 512MB GDDR3 memory on it. Makes a huge difference in DVD Quality. I remember Sophocles talking about that at one time, and Windows usually lies to you about your video card capabilities anyway. He pointed out that you can't get true 16 million colors with 256MB of video memory, and explained how the math worked to prove it. Having a decent video card like my 9500GT with 512MB of GDDR3, makes all the difference in the world in video quality with everything from games on down! 720p & 1080p come alive on the screen! You see exactly what you expect to see, as everything is just so familiar looking, comparing it to real life! It even shows in older movies. I watched "Around the World in 80 Days" the other night and I looked so much better than it ever had before, and this is just a regular DVD! Something like this would be a good choice for your needs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125260. For $39 after a $20 MIR (which you will get!) It should handle all of your needs quite well. It's almost the same card as my MSI 9500GT 512mb GDDR3. For a good quality solid video card for everyday use, it's tough to beat for the price!
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Russ
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11. November 2009 @ 21:41 |
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not saying thats a bad card, but i would use my 7600gt i have now before i got that one..lol not meaning that as a insult Russ.
in feburary when im able to do the I5 build i will be looking at a HD4850 or a GTS250 something along those lines of a card. i know those are still a good card right now but its not the 5770/5870 or the GTX285/295 stuff thats all the rage right now.
heck as far as that goes i have a nice 8800gts still in the box that i havent even tried out yet...(thank you thank you very much;)
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11. November 2009 @ 22:02 |
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No, no onboard video chipset means it doesn't have integrated graphics, you have to buy a graphics card.
Rob: Go with the HD5750 over the HD4850, newer technology, more power efficient, etc. etc.
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11. November 2009 @ 23:32 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
not saying thats a bad card, but i would use my 7600gt i have now before i got that one..lol not meaning that as a insult Russ.
in feburary when im able to do the I5 build i will be looking at a HD4850 or a GTS250 something along those lines of a card. i know those are still a good card right now but its not the 5770/5870 or the GTX285/295 stuff thats all the rage right now.
heck as far as that goes i have a nice 8800gts still in the box that i havent even tried out yet...(thank you thank you very much;)
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Rob,
Don't sell the 9500GT so short, it's the better card by far over the 7600GT. There's light years of difference between a 7600GT and a good 9500GT with GDDR3 memory! LOL!! For one, it's more than twice as fast! I should know as I went from a very good XFX 7600GT w/256 MB GDDR2 to the 9500GT w/512MB GDDR3. You indicated you weren't considering games in your other post, so I thought the 9500GT for the price, a good fit! I knew Sam would of course, advocate an Ati card, but it's over $100 more. Unless you want the prestige of higher 3DMarks, or plan on taking up gaming, what's the point? If you have an 8800 already, then use it!
Best Regards,
Russ
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11. November 2009 @ 23:46 |
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Agreed. Unless you plan on heavy gaming, even something like a 9500GT will serve you well. It's faster than a 7600GT by a long shot and will play lots of newer games at acceptable settings should you choose to do so.
Though that 8800GTS would be your best bet if you have it laying around. Would play lots of games at higher settings and is super overkill for anything but gaming.
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12. November 2009 @ 08:47 |
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Good point Russ, I often wondered why my movies look like crap on my monitor, and the link you gave the prices were right as I'm also not a gamer, and I'm talking about my HP not the one I built last year which does have a gig board as this one I know is not a gig board, it's a MSI board, AMD. When I get the rest of this PC info I will get back to you so you can recommend a good card.
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12. November 2009 @ 09:02 |
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Fred - It all depends on what onboard video you have; i can't find my post re (my) onboard video on my Dell Core 2 Duo machines and all the video formats i can play but even my lowly netbook can play 480p BRRips perfectly and normal DVD's run perfectly fine as to most AVI formats. I also played a 720p video sample but VLC player and Media Player Classic had a few artifacts, the video ran smoothly though.
edit- found one ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/811153/4904281 - quotes from there ~ Originally posted by creaky:
Quick comment from me, my two Win7 machines use onboard video. I'm not a gamer but do enjoy movies, onboard video plays almost everything out there. But that probably makes me old fashioned too :p
They're Dell Optiplex 745 SFF's, video is 'Intel Q965/Q963 Express Chipset Family' (the chip is a GMA 3000), am currently playing a 1080p x264 MKV file, plays beautifully.
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12. November 2009 @ 09:22 |
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I will get more info creak, and I understand what you mean mostly, my monitor is a 19 in. viewsonic va1912wb, I love it, my text and everything else is crystal clear, my my dvd movies is always grainy, hell for all I know maybe the monitor is not capable to get these great looking views on monitors like these guys talk about, but for the kind of prices Russ gave I would be willing to give it a shot if it helped, and even if it didn't it would be no great loss.
Either way as soon as I find out more about my HP Pavilion Media Center TV m7330n Desktop PC I'll post.
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12. November 2009 @ 09:56 |
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That PC seems to have ATI Radeon Xpress 200, my HP Turion64 laptop has this, i think i bought that laptop about 6 years ago, it plays DVD's fine but is going to struggle with newer stuff, sounds like you'd be better off buying a card, in which case i'll leave that up the other guys
Your monitor looks like it does 1440x900 max (same as most of my monitors - Samsung Syncmaster 940MW's), i'm no expert on resolutions (i find video cards and resolutions incredibly dull personally), again i'll leave that to the others :) suffice it to say that my monitors play everything out there (that i can think of)
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12. November 2009 @ 10:22 |
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Your right creaky, it's what I have, and my monitor is a 1440x900, like I said everything is crytal clear even those little vidoe's I get from different sites, but stick in a movie and it's to grainy.
I've been happy with this PC over the years even though I will never buy another store bought PC, working inside this sucker is a little bit of a nightmare, because of that inside slot for external HDD hardly any room inside, just sticking in extra ram was a pain.
But still probably would not hurt to try a type of card maybe Russ or somebody else might suggest, here are the spec's for this PC, THANKS CREAK.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docum...product=1818272
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12. November 2009 @ 12:51 |
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I knew Sam would of course, advocate an Ati card, but it's over $100 more.
I lol'ed. No, read the post again.
Originally posted by Rob:
in feburary when im able to do the I5 build i will be looking at a HD4850 or a GTS250 something along those lines of a card.
A 9500GT is a better card than the 7600GT, though quite frankly I'm still very disappointed with how expensive they are, considering how much better an HD4650 is (and cheaper).
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12. November 2009 @ 13:42 |
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Russ the reason i said that when i clicked the link you linked to it wasnt for a 9500gt card it was this and the link is still the same right now,
GIGABYTE GV-NX72G512E2 GeForce 7200GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
that is whats linked in your above post.
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12. November 2009 @ 13:55 |
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Yeah it's to a 7200GS, a deactivated one at that.
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12. November 2009 @ 15:54 |
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Originally posted by creaky:Quote:
Quick comment from me, my two Win7 machines use onboard video. I'm not a gamer but do enjoy movies, onboard video plays almost everything out there. But that probably makes me old fashioned too :p
Creaky,
The newer motherboards all seem to come with HD graphics of some kind these days, at least the ones with on board Video. While the older ones will play DVDs, The picture quality is no where near that of the HD Graphics. I have a 1080p of Batman Begins, Converted to DVD, and it will play on any computer (not in 1080p), but you need the HD Graphics to really appreciate the video quality. Even screen captures take on a completely different look, much more like Photos than the normal quality you get doing them. I modified this screen capture into a Windows Desktop for my boss, and made it to look less like a photograph and more like a fine Oil Painting. If you get closer to take a better look, the detail get's less, just like an oil painting. I could never have done this without the obvious quality graphics and 16 million colors the HD video actually provides. I think it's quite good!
The original was shot at around sunset, as you can see by the long shadows. If you also notice the shadows on each side of the long pond are not the same length. It's because the land and the sidewalks are banked away from the pond on each side. It's supposed to keep ground water out of the ponds, and help keep people not paying attention, from wandering into them! That's why the different length shadows, as the right side should be longer and the left side shorter because of the banking. Even the original I started with has exceptional picture quality for a screen capture. It has none of the typical washed out colors you're used to seeing when you try to capture a picture from a movie!
Best Regards,
Russ
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12. November 2009 @ 15:57 |
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I don't exactly see what you're trying to prove here, a 1080p movie converted to standard def looks bad? I'm hardly surprised...
I also don't see how capturing a screenshot from a movie gives washed-out colour...
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12. November 2009 @ 16:47 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I don't exactly see what you're trying to prove here, a 1080p movie converted to standard def looks bad? I'm hardly surprised...
I also don't see how capturing a screenshot from a movie gives washed-out colour...
Sam,
While I agree that a 1080p movie converted to DVD looks bad on many computers, with HD graphics, it looks very close to the original 1080p, and much better than a commercial DVD! I know, I've compared them!
I can fully understand why you don't understand the washed out colour. You've almost always had high quality video, and that's the difference. Other people like me who had basic video get crap for screen captures, that you really can't do anything with in PhotoShop. Throw a cheap GForce 5200 with 128MB memory in one of your machines, and you will see the difference immediately! LOL!!
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Russ
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12. November 2009 @ 16:51 |
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While I agree that a 1080p movie converted to DVD looks bad on many computers, with HD graphics, it looks very close to the original 1080p, and much better than a commercial DVD! I know, I've compared them!
Actually Russ, so have I, and there are several forums I am a member of where that would probably get you a warning presuming you were a troll. I'm quite frankly amazed that you can compare an SD encode to the full 1080p. On a 20" monitor I can see how you might think they're not so bad, but on anything bigger (which let's face it, is likely given that I would say the majority watch movies on big TVs not small PC monitors) the difference is night and day. On my own 20" monitor I can clearly tell the difference between SD and HD up to about 20-30 feet away.
When I compared my X1600 to the X1900 which was a 256MB vs 512MB difference I never really saw the difference, but that was a while ago. Suffice to say, despite the lack of an 'HD' tag which is actually meaningless, the X1900XT in my fileserver is more than up to the job of doing high-def right.
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12. November 2009 @ 17:08 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
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While I agree that a 1080p movie converted to DVD looks bad on many computers, with HD graphics, it looks very close to the original 1080p, and much better than a commercial DVD! I know, I've compared them!
Actually Russ, so have I, and there are several forums I am a member of where that would probably get you a warning presuming you were a troll. I'm quite frankly amazed that you can compare an SD encode to the full 1080p. On a 20" monitor I can see how you might think they're not so bad, but on anything bigger (which let's face it, is likely given that I would say the majority watch movies on big TVs not small PC monitors) the difference is night and day. On my own 20" monitor I can clearly tell the difference between SD and HD up to about 20-30 feet away.
When I compared my X1600 to the X1900 which was a 256MB vs 512MB difference I never really saw the difference, but that was a while ago. Suffice to say, despite the lack of an 'HD' tag which is actually meaningless, the X1900XT in my fileserver is more than up to the job of doing high-def right.
Sam,
I have no idea what you mean about getting a warning or being presumed a troll! Why would I get a warning, and what the hell is a troll?
As far as seeing the difference on a 20" monitor, Mine does not have a TN panel, and that makes all the difference in the world as to the quality it can deliver. There is no discernible difference between 720p and 1080p. You yourself told me that you had to have a 36" or larger screen to be able to see the difference. The DVDRB/CCE output I use to create the DVD is very close to the same quality as the 1080p and the 720p, and looks much better than a commercial DVD!
Best Regards,
Russ
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