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3. December 2009 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yup. the keyboard is ps/2 and the mouse is usb with the ps/2 adapter.


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3. December 2009 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, IIRC that has happened on occasion with dodgy BIOSes. Perhaps try using the Windows-based BIOS flash util?



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3. December 2009 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, have you tried a USB keyboard? I've had boards that have USB keyboard support turned off by default, and I've seen boards that have PS/2 keyboard support turned off by default. You simply enter the BIOS with the opposite type of keyboard and change the settings around.



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3. December 2009 @ 19:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
we are looking for a usb keyboard now. thats what i was just thinking.
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3. December 2009 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, I'm familiar with USB off by default, can't say I've ever encountered PS/2 off by default, but it's certainly possible with modern boards.



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Also, @Creaky

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I'm pretty sure my Athlon 2800 machine is the KM400 VIA chipset too. I haven't had anything not work on this machine in the various linux distro's i've used on it. I would definitely recommend Puppy linux, i'm using 4.2.1 on mine. I tend to use the Athlon as a secondary surfing/movie watching/scripting machine whenever i'm using the (triple boot - Win7/Puppy 4.20/Macpup Foxy 3.0) C2D in Macpup mode (don't find the need to run Win7 now!) ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/637778/4946359 - the Enlightenment window manager is awesome btw.
Sweet thanks for the advice man :)



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Could be exactly what Sam said, back when when I needed to download a new XP, I needed to get into the bios for some reason or other and could not get in, mouse and keys would not work, Russ told me to get a PS/2 keyboard and WA LA, off to the races.
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
ok got a few questions. a friend of mine here at work just built him a new system

Q9550
ga-ep45-ud3p
his 5770
2x2gb gskil mem
cm 800w silent pro
750gb wd hdd
CM scout case.
he has tried at home to get into the bios and cant. so he brought it into work for me to look at. im at a loss other than the board being bad??(imgine that)lol once started the gigabyte logo comes up like it should you goto hit the delete button to get into bios, and nothing happens. same with f12,tab,end ect.... we have tried 3 different keyboards. all with the same outcome. you cant get into anything cause the keyboard isnt working. any ideas on this?

Rob,
Some motherboards will not see usb keyboards, even with Legacy USB turned on it the setup. I run into that all the time! That's why I always have a good PS/2 keyboard around! LOL!! I'm pretty sure that's the problem!

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3. December 2009 @ 20:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Or, a USb to PS/2 adapter - handy things those. Assuming of course you don't use a backlit keyboard that would overload the power draw of the PS/2 socket... :S



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well thats just it guys. we have now tried 3 different ps/2 keyboards and the 1 and only usb keyboard we found..and nothing happens with all 3 gigabye logo comes up and nothing after when hitting the poper keys. its like its stuck there. heres the part that i think its the I/O panel. once the puter is on and we are at the logo screen there are no lights what so ever on, on the keyboard. you know hitting the num locks or cap locks nothing comes on. i told him to call gigabyte tomorrow and talk with them maybe they know a trick or 2???? and if not then RMA is around the corner for a DOA. Russ you by chance dont have the number to gigabyte do you?
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3. December 2009 @ 20:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it sticks at the Gigabyte logo are you sure it's not a failed POST? Could be stuck looking for an HDD, or failing the RAM test.



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would it be looking for a hdd if it hasnt even setup windows onto a hdd yet? he hasnt been able ot do anything other than hit the power button.
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
would it be looking for a hdd if it hasnt even setup windows onto a hdd yet? he hasnt been able ot do anything other than hit the power button.

Rob,
At this point I don't think anything is going to help. I would pull the battery for the CMOS and start from square 1. Probably cost you less hair!

BTW, you did turn the power off when you tried the PS/2 keyboards, didn't you? You can't plug or unplug one live, or the PS/2 keyboard will fail!

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yes i took out the battery and i unpluged the power cable... nothing works..
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I state that it's probably not the I/O directly as I can't tell if you see anything beyond the Gigabyte logo. If the logo does indeed disappear and you get a black screen asking for a system disk, or with a blinking cursor then perhaps it is, but if it remains permanently at the Gigabyte screen there's something else going on.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I state that it's probably not the I/O directly as I can't tell if you see anything beyond the Gigabyte logo. If the logo does indeed disappear and you get a black screen asking for a system disk, or with a blinking cursor then perhaps it is, but if it remains permanently at the Gigabyte screen there's something else going on.
well theres some more info i forgot. it has twice gone past the logo and went to a blinking cursor but only twice out of the possible 20 times we tried to start it up.
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Originally posted by theonejrs:


So Will,
Where's the Sandra benches already? Not the 2009 one though, please! LOL!!

Russ

Aight Russ here's your test at 4.13Ghz and the G.Skill Memory Bandwidth test also








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Originally posted by sammorris:
Or, a USb to PS/2 adapter - handy things those. Assuming of course you don't use a backlit keyboard that would overload the power draw of the PS/2 socket... :S

exactly what...I'm using at this moment with the logitech wireless keyboard and mice me and Cincy have the same Logitech setup:)



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I can say.I've had issue where I/O plate was'nt flush against the board and it made it hard for the PS/2 keyboard or mice to make a good connection.I have also seen some plugs with shorter pins to connect you have make sure that I/O plate is Good and flush with the board cause there can gap space between the two:)

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Originally posted by cincyrob:


well theres some more info i forgot. it has twice gone past the logo and went to a blinking cursor but only twice out of the possible 20 times we tried to start it up.


has the Num Lock lite up yet? keep tapping the Delete button if get to the bios go to intergrated peripherals and enable the usb keyboard function

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no num locks no cap locks nothing lights up on the keyboard.. aint no getting into the bios here..lol he is going to get with newegg and have them rma it.
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
no num locks no cap locks nothing lights up on the keyboard.. aint no getting into the bios here..lol he is going to get with newegg and have them rma it.

they send 1 to his e-mail to print out so he can send it back he can get in on a Chat with someone there if ya'll got time tonight.I believe

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Originally posted by sammorris:
Maw: I don't use any stability tests. As far as I'm concerned, if my PC doesn't crash, it's stable. I have yet to find any stability test that can replicate real-world usage.

I did the same until it failed real-world usage during an important project lol.

Also I failed to mention that my system doesn't crash, it just fails to produce the same result for each pass.


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Originally posted by cincyrob:
no num locks no cap locks nothing lights up on the keyboard.. aint no getting into the bios here..lol he is going to get with newegg and have them rma it.

Rob,
Do the keyboard lights flash on and off with either keyboard when you first turn on the power supply? Just curious, because they should!

Russ


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Originally posted by theonejrs:

Oman7,
Be sure that the IDE controllers are both turned on in the setup. This is particularly important with that specific model because when you install XP, it will not boot until you go in the setup and turn the HDD controller back on. Why installing XP turns the controller off is a mystery to me I freaked the first time it happened to me! LOL!! My Precision 420 is the same way, the only way you can install the OS on the boot drive with it is with the controller turned off! It goes through the entire install and then won't boot up! LOL!! Turn it back on and it works fine!
Russ

Thanks for the info. It just may come in handy! As soon as it acknowledges the friggin Dvd drive...I'll know more around noon tomorrow.



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rob, i know this is obviuso, but did you dismantle everythign and try starting the mobo on a box? test bench style?



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Originally posted by cincyrob:
no num locks no cap locks nothing lights up on the keyboard.. aint no getting into the bios here..lol he is going to get with newegg and have them rma it.

Rob,
One other thought would be to pull one of the memory sticks! That will force it to let you into the setup because it will tell you that the amount of memory has changed and ask you to press F1 to continue or F2 to enter the setup! Can't hurt trying!

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