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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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13. January 2010 @ 18:33 |
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From what I understand:
Hub: Everything gets sent to everything. If the target machine receives data not meant for it, it gets binned.
Switch: Data only gets sent to the machine that it's due for. This allows for much better bandwidth throughput.
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13. January 2010 @ 18:38 |
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Off topic - Am settling down for a night of news articles, people such as this make my blood boil, it's no wonder i can never sleep and it's no wonder i can't find work. Crooks such as this sit there and brazenly refuse to say where $2 trillion of taxpayers money has gone. We have the Bank of England who i believe are exactly the same as your Federal Reserve, ie private central banks above government reach. I don't always find enough detail on the UK side of things, it's easier to research the US goings on. I need to go calm down and make a coffee!, sorry but this stuff makes me see red. This is part of the reason i live on the internet, researching the crooks. Until people like Ron Paul get to audit the Fed, and people over here start waking up to all the bank looting what chance have i and other got, of getting off the net and in keeping with the thread title, 'PC building'. How long has it been since many people have spec'd up machines to build, a blumming long time.
SEC Engages in Conspiracy with AIG to Hide Bailout Evidence
On topic - Just looking out for you OM7 :)
edit- what Sam said :)
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14. January 2010 @ 00:32 |
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Creaky. Is there not some way to tell the router, to only except certain IP's? Basically, it would only allow specified devices to connect to the router. Or is that simply not supported with the router I bought. I think i'm asking if Port Forwarding will help me here. But i'm not 100% confident on what port forwarding is yet. Perhaps a little LOL! Or am I simply really screwed with the router I purchased. Go ahead and tell me I *beeped* up. LOL!
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14. January 2010 @ 01:30 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Creaky. Is there not some way to tell the router, to only except certain IP's? Basically, it would only allow specified devices to connect to the router. Or is that simply not supported with the router I bought. I think i'm asking if Port Forwarding will help me here. But i'm not 100% confident on what port forwarding is yet. Perhaps a little LOL! Or am I simply really screwed with the router I purchased. Go ahead and tell me I *beeped* up. LOL!
You can use MAC address filter to augment the WPA security and that should keep most wannabe hackers out.
Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, network speed is about more than just internet speed. Transferring files between PCs or streaming them off another is also important. Despite being 54Mbps, the stability of wireless isn't enough to stream 1080p video off, even though that only requires a continuous 1-2MB/s tops.
I can get at least 2.5MB/s steady from my wireless router and an average of 6MB/s across my own network iirc. Can't recall if I've ever streamed a full 1080p video though.
Originally posted by creaky:
Access Point - basically a dumbed down/stripped down router i think, i don't bother with them, i just use standard routers and configure them as necessary. For instance, i just checked my main router and it has the following modes - AP, Client, Client Bridge, Adhoc, Repeater, Repeater Bridge.
It might have changed but when I was looking for a wireless router a few years ago not all routers had all the configurations you listed. My router can't act as an AP or Bridge which is how I ended up buying an AP (cheaper and easier to setup lol). I would agree though, if you can get a router that does all that there's not point in getting an AP.
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14. January 2010 @ 07:07 |
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It's not really about the throughput rate, it's about the stability of that throughput.
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14. January 2010 @ 20:35 |
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I know what you're saying sam but in it's defense I have to say that while it might not be 24/7 stable like a wired connection it's never dropped once to any noticeable effect (at least to a point where I could clearly blame it on my wireless connection). I don't have a lot of large files so I can't say I've seen throughput that high for any longer then ~1 hour. To be honest I wouldn't use wireless in less I had to as wired is so much faster, more reliable and simpler.
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14. January 2010 @ 20:37 |
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Ah, I'm not suggesting it drops out entirely, but the data throughput of wireless is very inconsistent, it may not affect your throughput rate much, or your web browsing ability, but it makes streaming high-definition content (which requires a continuous stream of data at good bandwidth) difficult unless the signal is absolutely perfect.
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14. January 2010 @ 20:45 |
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Yeah I understood what you meant, I don't think a totally dropped connection wouldn't be noticeable lol. From perspective though when I'm d/ling stuff I've seen it above 2MB/s for at least an hour (d/l would have failed otherwise or a would have taken longer to complete).
Do you think this bloated 1080p rip I have would be a good test (I'm curious to see if I can steam "full 1080p" perfectly mysefl lol).
BITRATE.......: Variable ~ 12279 Kbps
AUDIO.........: English DTS 5.1 @ 1536 Kbps
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14. January 2010 @ 20:47 |
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For what it's worth, the vast majority of download clients take an average download speed, sampled either over the entirity of the download, or over a period of maybe 10 seconds plus.
A 1.75MB/s 1080p is a good example to test with. I would be surprised if it streams perfectly from start to finish, but it's not a technical impossibility, just very unlikely.
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14. January 2010 @ 22:46 |
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Yes you are correct. If I have time to watch a decent portion of the movie (I have neither the will nor time to watch all of it) this weekend I'll post how "perfect" it was.
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15. January 2010 @ 00:52 |
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15. January 2010 @ 00:53 |
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Yah really. This thread hasn't even gone 2 full years yet ;P
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15. January 2010 @ 01:49 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Yah really. This thread hasn't even gone 2 full years yet ;P
Oman7,
All they did was remove the sticky from the previous thread. That's what they are talking about, not this one! You did notice that it isn't closed? LOL!! :)
Russ
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16. January 2010 @ 14:21 |
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I'll be slapping an MSI mobo in a HEC HTPC case today. I'll post all relevant pics :) This will be my first HTPC case. Should be interesting :D
LOL! RIGHT before I posted this, my brother texted my email address saying his kid(my nephew) cracked the tv screen, and to forget about the computer. I texted back "You must be joking...". Apparently he was not. I will still however be doing the build.
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16. January 2010 @ 17:53 |
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Here's what his screen looks like now. A childs sippy cup is what struck it! Poor thing is barely over a month old. It was a pretty decent tv too :(
Just watched District 9 on it last night. Pretty good movie :D
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16. January 2010 @ 17:55 |
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Dynex? Who?
Nah, it is a shame when stuff like that happens though. I still get nervous every time I walk past our TV :)
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16. January 2010 @ 18:02 |
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LOL! Thats how I reacted to my brother when he brought it home. They picked it up for like 450$. Not bad for a 40" Full HDTV. Good all around picture too. Now they can't even play their new wii...much less surf the net in the living room. Apparently that kind of damage is not covered. Such a shame.
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16. January 2010 @ 18:08 |
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It's not covered by warranties, but it is covered on household posessions/equipment insurance.
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16. January 2010 @ 18:14 |
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Are you saying that home owners insurance might cover it? I know my mother already suggested it to him :)
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16. January 2010 @ 18:18 |
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I believe so. Most homeowner's insurance policies cover appliances (of which I believe TVs are included, but not for faults, only accidents) and student posessions insurance do cover damage as my friend damaged a PC monitor in a taxi and got a replacement off insurance - I will warn you though, the process was far from quick. You would be better of buying a replacement, trying the insurance and then selling what you get back from the insurance company.
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16. January 2010 @ 18:43 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Here's what his screen looks like now. A childs sippy cup is what struck it! Poor thing is barely over a month old. It was a pretty decent tv too :(
Just watched District 9 on it last night. Pretty good movie :D
Oman7,
That's another big reason I prefer DLP to Plasma, LCD or LED. Go into a big store that has a lot of TVs on display, and just look for the best picture. Chances are you will pick a DPL set every time! Hell, I can do it from about 50 feet away! LOL!! I haven't missed yet!
Russ
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16. January 2010 @ 18:49 |
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Strange, most of the people I know thought DLP TVs had the worst picture. All of the ones I've seen have been pretty mediocre. Also, if I remember correctly, DLP TVs aren't really sold in the EU because they don't meet energy efficiency standards or something like that, along with being much too big compared to smaller LCDs and Plasmas.
Also remember, TVs used in shops are set to the highest brightness and contrast settings to grab users' attention even though it makes the picture look crap. Real image quality is moot since all the sets will be hooked up to a cheap splitter junction off of either an incoming TV signal or cheap DVD player, and they'll almost always be in Standard Def. Since DLP TVs can't produce the brightness and contrast levels of Plasmas/LCDs they are effectively set up correctly from the get-go at maximum brightness. This means they seemingly have the best picture in the showroom, but the worst picture in actuality.
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16. January 2010 @ 20:34 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Strange, most of the people I know thought DLP TVs had the worst picture. All of the ones I've seen have been pretty mediocre. Also, if I remember correctly, DLP TVs aren't really sold in the EU because they don't meet energy efficiency standards or something like that, along with being much too big compared to smaller LCDs and Plasmas.
Also remember, TVs used in shops are set to the highest brightness and contrast settings to grab users' attention even though it makes the picture look crap. Real image quality is moot since all the sets will be hooked up to a cheap splitter junction off of either an incoming TV signal or cheap DVD player, and they'll almost always be in Standard Def. Since DLP TVs can't produce the brightness and contrast levels of Plasmas/LCDs they are effectively set up correctly from the get-go at maximum brightness. This means they seemingly have the best picture in the showroom, but the worst picture in actuality.
Sam,
Maybe it's the way TV is in the UK, but here, nothing beats a Mitsubishi Diamond Plus for picture quality, and it will have that same picture quality, long after the Plasma has faded away. The older Plasma's were even worse, as they lasted about a year before the picture quality started to go downhill. All the current one's I've seen seem to start losing picture quality after about 2 years. The DLP has the more natural picture, thanks to what technically is a Technicolor picture. They use a color wheel, with the source being black & white. The lamps do burn out over time, and they are expensive, but far cheaper than a new Plasma screen, and much easier to replace! The Sears store here has about 100 large sets on display, and it's not the brightness that attracts you, as Sears doesn't do that sort of thing. Most reputable places don't! The first time I went over there I inquired to the Salesman where the DLP sets were. His answer was to look for the best picture. I found every one of the 5 they had on display by picture quality alone, without any difficulty. You never have to worry about burn-in either. As you can see by the picture omegaman7 showed, plasma screens are also somewhat fragile.
Here, Videophiles prefer DLP! I can't tell you how many times I've seen reviews of Plasma and LED TVs from CNET and other sites like that, that started with, "Personally I prefer DLP, but"! I concur! There must be some reason the theaters here that have digital projectors, are all DLP technology!
Best Regards,
Russ
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16. January 2010 @ 20:49 |
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From what I've seen of LED NOT LCD tv's they are very nice. ;) Plasma are ok but NOT what I want. :p
Never really paid attention to the DLP tv's... I'll look next time I hit the electronic store. :)
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16. January 2010 @ 20:53 |
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The screen I posted was an LCD screen. The best one i've seen in person too :) The picture quality didn't change by ones viewing angle. No matter where you sat in the living room, the picture quality didn't degrade. My mothers screen is plasma though. I won't buy a plasma myself. Thankfully a very short-lived technology! What a shame that LCD screens can't be replaced in the same fashion that an SD card can :p But then the industry wouldn't make as much money...
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