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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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22. January 2010 @ 13:11 |
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There is a line though. And you've crossed it. Massively!
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22. January 2010 @ 13:24 |
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even 12tb of porn isnt enough for some :P
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22. January 2010 @ 15:01 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Got enough HDD's sam! LOL! Not that one could ever have enough ;)
Oman7,
Oh! That's what all those cables are! LOL!! I thought it was a basket of snakes! He should name it H.M.S. Medusa! LOL!!
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22. January 2010 @ 20:11 |
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sam you running some sort of sata controller card in there. if i counted right there is 9hdd in there. i take it thats your server?
kinda hard to get them wires looking good with that many drives.. i know. 4 sata hdd and 2 sata odd's my board is full out of space for sata plugins without a controller card.(which i hate.)
ok guys i know ive been out of the loop for a bit and havent been keeping up with the newest toys. so bare with me here. why has the I5 series gone backwards and come out with duel core cpus? plus they are more coslty than the quads? why would anyone want one? no i havent looked at there specs other than a quick glance at them at the egg.
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22. January 2010 @ 20:16 |
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Its TDP is pretty low. Its technology, 32nm. Looks pretty cutting edge :)
THIS ONE, anyway...
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22. January 2010 @ 21:09 |
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yea thats the one i was looking at i think there are 2 more models as well. id put my E8400 up against it any day. im not worried about the little power saving it might have i want total over all power..lol if i wanted a prius thats one thing but i want a HEMI!!!!!lol
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22. January 2010 @ 21:15 |
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I hear you there! I would prefer more potential, then power saving any day. Which is why I didn't mind the hungry Phenom II processor :D The potential outweighs! Wouldn't have minded an intel at the time, but they're just too damned expensive. I met yet another slow intel processor today. It was a dual core too. My sisters replacement computer. It does better than their last computer. But not by much LOL! Probably something wrong with it...
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22. January 2010 @ 21:44 |
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Those i5 dual cores (they support HT) are actually quite powerful from what I've read so far. Comparable to a i5 750 and even better then a stock 750 when OC iirc.
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22. January 2010 @ 22:01 |
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myself having the Q9550 EO as do alot of others around here.i just cant justify going with a I5 build, not worth it maybe if it was 3-5 years down the road hell yea but not so close together.heck the cpus and mobo prices have come way down and compare to Q9xxx series and 775 platform mobo but the memory for them is out of this world, if you want some good mem 4+gb.
plus im running 3.83ghz on my Q9550 right now. with the new mobo(ga-ep45-ud3p)i know i can run 24/7, @4.0-4.2ghz and that will run with any I5. im not knocking hte I5 if i was to do a new build or someone asked for advice on a build I5 is what i would recomend. its just not logical to spend the extra money for me to upgrade everything just because..lol
now my friend i work with here that i helped build his I5 with the biostar T-Power I55 mobo that is one kick ass rig. he has had it running 4.33ghz not 100% stable but fired up and runs everyday programs fine at that speed. he has it running now at 4.12ghz and at idle his temps are in the low 30's and under load it has maxed out at 57c. so yea i would recomend a I5 build to anyone doing it from scratch for their system. not to just upgrade because they can.
ok im done rambling you all are bored enough as it is..lol
oh yea OM7 have you checked on that program yet? ;)
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23. January 2010 @ 04:47 |
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i fully agree. As an uograde its no way worth it, but for people whos mbos don't support a c2q then fair enough. It takes more money than sense to get an i5 when one can just plop in a quad and get insane power for a fraction of the price
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23. January 2010 @ 07:23 |
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Rob: Thirteen actually. There are four drives in the box in the lower ODD bays. Yes, that's my server. I use several controller cards, four to be precise, each of which provides two additional ports on top of the six offered by the board, allowing for a maximum of 14 ports.
As for the i5 dual cores, it's the same story as with E8 vs Q9 series. The i5 dual cores are the high clock speed versions, thus they cost as much as, if not more than the quad cores. I don't really see much point in them either to be honest, but they're CPUs with integrated graphics built in, which is a bit of a waste for a top-end CPU. I understand it for the lower-end ones.
73W isn't a low TDP for a dual core. The E8 series dual cores were only 65W, but the reason for the extra TDP is the graphics chip added alongside.
Per core of course the i5s are faster due to the higher clock speed, but in anything that uses a quad core, they'd get flattened, utterly. The 65nm core 2 generation you could see why people might buy dual cores over quads. With the 45nm generation it became less sensible, with the core i5 generation it's near pointless IMO.
Overall, agreed on the i5 upgrades, though for systems that have limited overclocking potential on core 2 quads, the i5 is still a reasonably substantial upgrade. It would be much more of an upgrade if there was a guaranteed reliable board with 32x PCIe bandwidth...
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23. January 2010 @ 13:13 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by im1992:
Well, I am still running my E6300 at 4GHz. The voltage is ~1.36v
Is it gonna die? Or is this a safe voltage for the CPU?
Btw, it has a CNPS9700 on it to keep it cool.
-im1992
im1992,
Maximum voltage for the E6300 is 1.5V, if it's an SL9SA. 1.3625v, if it's an SLGU9. You should have no problems at 1.36v with either chip.
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Umm its a wolfdale, yea. so 1.3625? Am I going too high then?
I mean if 1.3625v is the max voltage...so is 1.36v cutting it too close?
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23. January 2010 @ 13:34 |
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Ohhh sorry, I thought you meant the original E6300, there are two entirely different CPUs both called the E6300, I refer to the 45nm version as the E6300 II just to keep it clear. That explains how you got it to 4Ghz. Yeah I'd keep it below 1.4V to be safe.
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23. January 2010 @ 15:10 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ohhh sorry, I thought you meant the original E6300, there are two entirely different CPUs both called the E6300, I refer to the 45nm version as the E6300 II just to keep it clear. That explains how you got it to 4Ghz. Yeah I'd keep it below 1.4V to be safe.
No, haha, the max I got with the 65nm E6300 was 3.4GHz.
What's the max I can expect from the 45nm E6300? I use it as my home server but still, it's always nice to have it run at its highest possible overclock just for fun.
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23. January 2010 @ 15:34 |
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I typically see figures around 4.1-4.3 crop up for 24/7. 4.5 can be had with high voltages.
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23. January 2010 @ 19:47 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I typically see figures around 4.1-4.3 crop up for 24/7. 4.5 can be had with high voltages.
thanks for the info! i will see what i can squeeze out of it, if anything more...
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23. January 2010 @ 20:12 |
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@creaky
Thanks for the help. I'm networked up thru the house now sharing hard drives & burners in one location my room.lol
for right now.I'm still using teamviewer running 3 syetems for 1 seat
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23. January 2010 @ 20:14 |
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Having tried various VNC clients, I still prefer the one that's built into windows... :P
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23. January 2010 @ 22:32 |
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Gonna cut this build a little cheaper than I planned. Starting to become somewhat of a miser LOL! Seriously though, I can't see buying any more than this right now.
The processor has been OC'd to 4Ghz and beyond. Whether thats stable or not, I'll discover for myself. It's also the C3 stepping which is more stable, and runs cooler (Supposedly). I can't see spending 20+ dollars on the successor, when It'll probably only OC an additional 100Mhz or 200, if that. I think the 955 is the economical sweet spot :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
The Ram is the same exact Ram I bought for my mother. Tried and tested. When I elect to upgrade to 4 X 4Gb later, she can have that ram for her computer, or i'll simply store it. She has 4gb. Which is plenty for a user of her habits ;)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
The Board is my dream come true. Enough said...LOL! Seriously though, it can handle Tri SLI/Crossfire, USB 3.0, Sata Rev 3, Dual lan. I think dream come true pretty much sums it up LOL!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128415
Grand total $464.47, counting shipping. Not bad for 3 cutting edge technologies. Hopefully the price doesn't fluctuate to much in the next week or two. Waiting on tax return :D I should probably buy another PSU though. I'll consider that when the time comes :)
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24. January 2010 @ 03:06 |
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omega i don't want to bring anyone down, that's normally sams job :p, but that mobo only supports CF not SLI at all
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24. January 2010 @ 03:20 |
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See, I wasn't sure about that. That's why I suggested either or. Are you certain about that? That's truly unfortunate...
Will it not support nvidia cards at all? If it will, why does it not support sli?
So it should be ok, with a single Nvidia GPU, but when ran in multi gpu setups, the AMD chipset, really wants it to be ATI then. Thats fine and good. I've been itching to give them a shot anyway. And I do want that dual LAN, along with the USB 3.0, And Sata 6Gb/s! I'll certainly make use of both the dual Lan, and Sata 6Gb/s!
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24. January 2010 @ 03:44 |
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yep sorry . Unlike the new intel chips you need a separate nbidia chip for sli. It's stupid but it is what it is (which is pathetic IMO) just CF. Though single nvidia is perfectly fine
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24. January 2010 @ 08:47 |
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Omega: Actually the 955 overclocks better than the 965. Don't ask me why... :S Technically the 945 is the sweet spot, not the 955 though, since they all overclock the same :)
nvidia do not allow the use of SLI on chipsets that are unlicensed. Some intel boards are now licensed, but no AMD Chipset ever will be, and using an nforce is no option.
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24. January 2010 @ 13:04 |
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Newegg doesn't have a 945 Black :p
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24. January 2010 @ 13:26 |
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The 945s aren't black editions, but it doesn't make a great deal of difference from what I've seen due to the low clock speed yields of the Phenoms anyway.
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