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16. February 2009 @ 16:44 |
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I've been running win7 since jan 9th and they have done a couple updates so far. Though my media player still doesn't work and i can not evaluate my windows experience because it freezes durring the process. It's what to expect from a beta, though there is a lot of added hardware support vista had no idea how to use. Even the manufactures website said the hardware was not vista compatible.
I have a P4 @ 3ghz and 4gig ram it's a dell gx280 optiplex corporate workstation. Besides the mentioned defects the operating system runs suprisingly fast and doesn't have any problems doing every day tasks.
I will probably buy the retail version when it comes out in august.
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16. February 2009 @ 17:05 |
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When you say it doesnt work, what EXACTLY do you mean by that? Will it open fully? Is it when you try and play a media file? what type? etc, etc.
I have not had any problems with the media player. Infact, I find it quite nice indeed! Though ive been told, and heard across the web, DO NOT allow it to update media files. It will cut out the first 3 seconds of an audio file, ON SOME audio files. If im mistaken I apologize. But its scared me enough to NEVER allow it access!!!
Ive ran 2 different boards by the way. An MSI that is not vista certified, NO PROBS. And my New gigabyte board within my Signature. Both have performed flawlessly so far.
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16. February 2009 @ 20:45 |
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Well you can open it by itself but as soon as you load any file and try to play it, the whole computer will freeze and you'll have to do a hard shutdown. Then when it's back on and running it's fine unless you attempt to open a wmp embedded web page. Even if you are watching a youtube video and maximize the screen it will freeze. I think it has something to do with the display driver but i doubt it because it wouldn't have any effect on the audio files i try to play. Also i put a few multimedia programs on it and all of them run flawlessly if they don't have to deal with windows media player. The only exception is adobe premiere, which is outdated anyway.
I'll probably try to reformat the computer using a different build of win 7 to see if i got an early version that had more bugs than newer versions. If not i can just throw vista ultimate on it again and disable aero.
Either way i think win7 is a decent os that i might be willing to mess around with a little more if i worked less. But we'll see, maybe they'll release a patch for those experiencing problems with wmp. I have sent proably 20 feedback messages durring this testing process.
I still have a laptop and 2 other desktops so it's not a big deal that this computer can't run wmp.
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16. February 2009 @ 23:11 |
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I found that bulid 6800 of the os was good if you took some files from Vista and injected them into windows 7 Like disk defrag because it did not have one, other thoughts on 7 is that it can work more smother than vista ever will although vista is a nice and smouth OS aswell. Also i like the superbar thats cool. windows 7 well where do you start, i found that it just about runs on most things like 1ghz processor and 512mb of ram 20gig hdd and it can be a good netbuster box.
But on the down side i failed to see it feature DX10 or the new 11 that is coming soon. although my gfx card is only DX10. I found that the windows media play is a little bit diffrent in some ways to vista but in other ways the same as media play 10 for XP you can like a skined version and the normal bog standard version(i like the skined version. The other thing i seen an improvement was when i was running games on 7 that i got 10 to 15 extra FPS whe i was gaming.
the sound feature that people are taking about above has been round since vista and some of the vista betas. (so that is nothing new). i dont like what they have done to the sidebar IE having no side bar and just gagets. the other thing i get a better banchmarks on 7 my normal benchamek score is 9367 on my gaming rig then on 7 i get 1143. so maybe that just a glitch or not i dont know BTW that was with 3dmarks06 no tryed vantage yet.
thanks for listening
graham
P.S sorry for the bad spelling.(if you know of a spell cheack for Internet Explorer please let me know).
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17. February 2009 @ 01:05 |
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Originally posted by navskin:
the sound feature that people are taking about above has been round since vista and some of the vista betas
I apologize about that. I didnt have the unfortunate experience of running vista :P Not that it was a completely useless OS, I simply heard alot of bad things about it. I was unaware that it had this ability. I think its friggin awesome! One of the more exciting capabilities of windows 7/vista. Im also liking the new MS Paint!!! MUCH better. Its overhaul was VERY needed, LOL
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17. February 2009 @ 18:33 |
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i like the new paint to so dose my little bro as he can be very crative with paint lol. on the other hand i have come round to vista at this moment in time as i now see that it is not just a useless OS but very like windows 7 in alot of ways.
thanks for hering me out
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17. February 2009 @ 18:39 |
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Originally posted by navskin:
i like the new paint to so dose my little bro as he can be very crative with paint lol. on the other hand i have come round to vista at this moment in time as i now see that it is not just a useless OS but very like windows 7 in alot of ways.
thanks for hering me out
graham
I use it for lots of simple tasks. Ultimately though, I still like/love photoshop. Probably always will :D As funny as it sounds, the simple tasks seem to be the more difficult ones in adobe photoshop. Which is why I employ MS paint. I can do alot of the more advanced tasks, but the simpler things I havnt gotten around to learning LOL
Your quite welcome :)
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17. February 2009 @ 19:20 |
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i am having some problems dual booting it with windows vista after install and expanding of file it tells me that the setup can not continue and that i need to start agian. anyone else had this priblem. i have tryed re burning the iso and it dose the same thing i know i havent got a bad disc so what do you think it could be.
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18. February 2009 @ 00:53 |
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Originally posted by navskin:
i am having some problems dual booting it with windows vista after install and expanding of file it tells me that the setup can not continue and that i need to start agian. anyone else had this priblem. i have tryed re burning the iso and it dose the same thing i know i havent got a bad disc so what do you think it could be.
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graham
When you say dual boot, I assume you mean both OS's on the same Drive? If so, Im not sure how thats done. I have multiple drives. So I installed windows 7 on another drive. My new mainboard gives me the option of either OS after post. Havnt done anything with partitioning yet, or dualbooting. Havnt gotten around to either. Eventually though. I wanna learn it all :D Wish I could help you :(
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18. February 2009 @ 01:07 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by navskin:
i am having some problems dual booting it with windows vista after install and expanding of file it tells me that the setup can not continue and that i need to start agian. anyone else had this priblem. i have tryed re burning the iso and it dose the same thing i know i havent got a bad disc so what do you think it could be.
thanks
graham
When you say dual boot, I assume you mean both OS's on the same Drive? If so, Im not sure how thats done. I have multiple drives. So I installed windows 7 on another drive. My new mainboard gives me the option of either OS after post. Havnt done anything with partitioning yet, or dualbooting. Havnt gotten around to either. Eventually though. I wanna learn it all :D Wish I could help you :(
Graham what your doing is dual booting.
But not sure what the problem is omegaman7, where did you get the iso from?
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21. February 2009 @ 01:14 |
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Well now! I am officially impressed!!! Once again people, I didnt get to use Vista(or want to), so am unfamiliar with it. I just discovered speech recognition within windows 7! If its anything even close to Dragon naturally speaking, then i'll love it. Some of what I read about it sounds ALOT like dragon. Almost like they used some of their techniques! In any case, once again, I WILL BE FIRST IN LINE FOR "windows 7 ultimate!!!" Hmmmfff. With all these capabilities, I wonder what ultimate is gonna cost? I hope its not pushin 300-400 dollars!!! Cant afford that right now. I suppose if I start selling my blood/plasma ehhh, LOL
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21. February 2009 @ 03:52 |
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So dose that mean they finaly got right the speach recinightion?? I have fixed my dual boot problem by installing on to a sep drive so thats that sorted. I would like to see round abouts what the price would be that would be nice to know. I found that M$ are trying to do away with alot of the menus in windows 7 compared to how many there is in vista.
Has anyone tryed 64-BIT version of 7 would like to see how that fares and anyone tryed using the nvidia beta driver for 7. I have found that NO beta driver have poped on the ASUS web site for my motherboard. No thing new on there for a while tho.
Have you tryed the new windows shacke i like that comes in handy for when you want to minimize a lot of windows at once. But i did find the idea stolen form Mac OS X not sure what it called on os x but works a treat still. I think there could be doing with a few more option yet on cutomizing the GUI. The only thing that is bugging me is that when i right click on my optical drive is that they have taken away the option to explore the drive. But on the up Side they have only change the name from explore to OPEN.
Another thing i would like to see in 7 is that UI improve ments more simply because i give it my dad to use on his speare drive for a couple off weeks now and he says that it seems to be more complacated to use. that is just his thought on it....
That inuff of me ranting
so you was talking about the price of it i thought when vista first come out that it was way over priced and they need to take this into consideration due to the world economic state at the momment in time.
thanks for listing
Graham
EDIT:forgot to say that i also got it booting from vista bootloader along with mac os x so so dose dual boot well when not on the same drive with another windows OS. I got it setup using EasyBCE work perfect.
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21. February 2009 @ 04:54 |
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I am running 32bit now. I did however run 64bit for a few weeks. Im not sure about the 2 bugs that I did encounter. Google desktop does not have a 64bit installer, so I tried FORCE installing the 32bit version (NOT RECOMMENDED), It locked up one of my cores indefinitely! I havnt tried it on 32 bit yet. Another thing ive noticed, was that installer packages transferred via usb flash drive, were discovered corrupted by an XP machine. But when the same machine running XP transfers to the other XP machine, all is well! I suppose it could amount to driver issues! It is a beta release after all. Vista drivers were no help. So certain hardware may need windows 7 catered drivers. E.g. MOBO's(system drivers), GPU's, printers, etc.
Other than the 2 minor bugs, its just as incredibly smooth as the 32 bit.
By the way, I have 4 flash drives. ALL of them yielded the same results! Trust me, I tried almost everything! It seems to be isolated to 64bit operating windows 7. Never tried XP 64bit.
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21. February 2009 @ 14:52 |
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Sorry. I meant what Omegaman is doing is still dual booting. The OS doesnt have to be on the same drive to be considered dual booting. Just sharing the same PC
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21. February 2009 @ 14:59 |
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Originally posted by EWOcelot:
Sorry. I meant what Omegaman is doing is still dual booting. The OS doesnt have to be on the same drive to be considered dual booting. Just sharing the same PC
Ahhh...thanks for that! I wasnt certain as to that classification :)
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23. February 2009 @ 11:46 |
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I have also had the WMP video lockup issue. The supplied drivers for the Nvidia GeForce 440 Go came straight from Windows Update.
Sound is working fine. If I load a WMV file WMP opens a small windows (it has a background that looks similar to the Vista login screen) and that's all I get. System is instantly locked.
I was able to open WMP by itself, but as soon as I File -> Open the WMV file, it opens that smaller "Vista looking" window again, and the system is locked.
So, I figure maybe it's something to do with WMP. I downloaded Media Player Classic, and wouldn't you know the system still locked!
Does anyone have a solution for the above mentioned nVidia card on 7? I heard it was a pain for Vista users too, so maybe a Vista fix or solution would work? I'm still hunting for answers...
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23. February 2009 @ 12:50 |
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Try windows XP or Windows Vista Drivers for your graphics. and do the same for your sound till you find witch drivers is causing the lock ups.
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24. February 2009 @ 00:15 |
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There was a WMP patch that fixed a ton of problems. Ill try to find it
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25. February 2009 @ 01:06 |
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Found the WMP update here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961367
It did not fix my playback issue, so I'm going to try and hunt down drivers that will work with GFX card.
WGA ACTIVATION ON WIN7:
Interesting enough, I never put in a product key during installation, just to see what happened. Today was the day it "expired" and I started receiving nag screens every few minutes stating that my OS was not "genuine" and I "may be a victim of piracy". The desktop wallpaper turned black and in the bottom corner where it says the build version, it added the line "not genuine". I put in my key and made that go away quickly, but how annoying!
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25. February 2009 @ 10:16 |
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Okay, well the WMP fix didn't fix playback; rather WMP doesn't crash and lockup the entire PC. It launches and pretends like it wants to play the video and does nothing.
Still leaning towards the GFX drivers, but I've tried at least 3 different variations on the same with no luck. MPC still locks up the PC when trying to play a WMV.
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25. February 2009 @ 10:42 |
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Looks like after all the mayhem it turns out to be the graphics driver. Though the weird thing is if i update with the driver from dells website i lose the ability to run 3d acceleration (which is pretty odd). With the driver win7 installed the first time everything worked fine besides windows media player.
I can get WMP to run if i change the driver over to the one on dells website but then i lose all my different resolutions and ability to run the default screen saver. It's a pretty sad situation so far.
Also every time i start up the computer it goes to reinstall the driver, even though it already installed successfully. It really doesn't make any sense, there has to be a conflict with the display driver and win 7.
So.....I think if i could get a vista driver from dell for that chipset i would be set, but there's no vista drivers available so it looks like i'll have to start pulling numbers from the board and the chip and go that route.
I've been in this boat before when i installed xp pro on a vista machine that dell only listed vista drivers for. I had to pull apart the laptop and get part numbers, but it all turned out great in the end. I'll let you guys know how far i get and if there's actually a solution to this problem.
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29. March 2009 @ 16:29 |
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Perhaps a little something to reliven the thread.. huh! LOL!
Heres an updated windows 7 experience. New Harddrive, New processor. Im now running Phenom II deneb 940 @ 3.0ghz for this test. Im gonna bump it back up to 3.5 to see the difference. Im also now running the velociraptor 150GB! Very awesome drive. Windows 7 is up and running in under 30seconds!
I also MIGHT consider a little overclock of my 8600GT. But im still a few weeks out from an upgrade, so im a little nervous about attempting it LOL!
OK, heres with the overclock. As you can see my Graphics score dropped. Not by much however. Probably just a minor fluctuation.
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29. March 2009 @ 21:59 |
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HO ho!!! I bumped it up to 5.3! With but a minor 20Mhz overclock!
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30. March 2009 @ 11:53 |
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Sorry to steal your thunder a bit but my £40 Samsung SpinPoint 320GB 7200RPM 16MB scores 5.9. The same as your £150+ 150GB VelociRaptor...
and mines probably quieter...
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30. March 2009 @ 13:06 |
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LOL, HAF 932 CM case, VIRTUALLY silent :D at least from where I am There is a slight kinda purr. And it hasnt been properly broken in yet. HDD's require exercise LOL
My WD FALS 1TB also gets the same score. Its 7200 also.
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