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17. July 2010 @ 16:30 |
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Hey creaky, I've noticed on such threads like "Desktop pics" that you run some kind of net meter. I'm curious what that is. I've been having serious internet connection issues, and want to monitor more closely what's going on. I believe my ISP to be fiddling around on their end, and want to record what's going on. Because in october, they want to raise my bill. And if they can't even maintain my connection, I'd like some points on my side, if you get me ;)
A certain downloading application allows me to monitor bandwidth speeds in a graph like GUI, but I wanted something that's designed with JUST that in mind. Any thoughts whatsoever on this is much appreciated :)
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17. July 2010 @ 17:03 |
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It's called Netmeter, see here. Not sure how much this will help your particular predicament though.
The only time i've experienced erratic speeds are when i lived afloat ie the phone line was always being damaged (many, many different & separate problems over a 3 year period), and the other was when being throttled for Bittorrent traffic by a certain cable provider. Other than those i've always (consistently) had the speeds i was supposed to be having. The throttling was easy to fix, i dumped the crappy cable provider, problem solved :).
I think what you want to be doing is regularly checking your modem's admin pages to check what your actual connection speed is at that time, then check at other times to make sure it's fairly consistent. There's sites like speedtest.net and pingtest.net, etc, but in your case you should start with seeing what the modem is reporting.
We've just had a new broadband line installed in one of our branches, and i was tasked with sourcing a modem and configuring/testing it. I used one of my own trusty modems that i'd used in anger (to within an inch iof it's life in fact, it had been subjected to flat-out torrent traffic for over a year!). Anyways, we had been promised a 20+Meg line and my limited testing showed it to be a 6/7Meg connection, and the download speeds on the line didn't even meet 6/7Meg, only something like 3ish Meg, and very erratic results at that. Just to have a stick to beat them with, we caved in and bought a (fairly expensive) new modem that they recommended, and surprise surprise it made zero difference. We've been shouting at the provider and the problem is ongoing while they play silly beggars. Anyways, broadband is great when it works but when it doesn't it is one of the most frustrating problems to deal with/resolve.
I'm sure some of the other guys have better advice to give re how to proceed but i'd start with regular monitoring of the modem's reported connection stats.
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17. July 2010 @ 17:33 |
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I generally check this page first, by typing 192.168.0.1 in the address bar.
In the past 2 weeks, I've seen connections of 0 - 5120 download, and 0 - 896Kbps upload. Since it came on rather sudden like, I assumed they were screwing around. Then I thought maybe I have something quitting on me, e.g modem. But then it will be fine for hours. It's been fine for 36 hrs, but a few minutes ago, it began screwing up again. I don't believe they're throttling me just yet. It's too erratic to believe that. What happens is, the Internet light will shut off, and the DSL light will begin flashing. Once, I even seen the modem reset itself. My guess is, they sent a signal instructing it to do so. Another example of my believing they are screwing around. Which is quite unfortunate. I rely heavily on my internet connection.
For almost 24hrs, it appeared my upload ceiling was capped at 70Kbps, where It should be getting 896Kbps. Hardly worth noting, but believe it or not, I notice little differences in my connection speeds.
Thanks for your recommendation. I'll look into net meter :D
Another thing worth noting is, I've seen the modem foul up when both PC's aren't even running. So it's definitely nothing to do with throttling...
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17. July 2010 @ 18:49 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
What happens is, the Internet light will shut off, and the DSL light will begin flashing. Once, I even seen the modem reset itself. My guess is, they sent a signal instructing it to do so. Another example of my believing they are screwing around.
A-ha, this is the behaviour i had on the river. In my case it was always due to the phone line being faulty. The modem loses connection and the flashing light is known as hunting, or trailing which i think is the correct term. Routers are supposed to be left up and running all the time, and your dropouts will be the reason for your erratic connection speeds. If you have, say an 8Meg connection, and you either turn the router off all the time, or there's a fault of some kind and the modem resets all the time, you won't end with an 8Meg connection. I don't know the technical reasons for this, suffice it to say that it's something to do with the fact that the router's not left online. Someone else can no doubt explain that much better than i can, i know what i mean i just can't describe it properly.
You just need to find out why the modem is losing connection (maybe the modem is resetting itself, but obviously you should be able to check this in the modem's admin pages, maybe there's an uptime figure of some sort in there, and maybe a separate one to show how long the connection itself has been up). To make you feel better, i have 4 routers on permanently, the main one has an uptime of 251 days, and that's only because i would have tweaked a setting 251 days ago. Don't know how long the main modem router has been up as it's in bridged mode (can't access it's setup menu in bridged mode) but the other 3 routers have been up 251 days apiece.
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Another thing worth noting is, I've seen the modem foul up when both PC's aren't even running. So it's definitely nothing to do with throttling...
Yeah, that's routers for you, they keep running, independantly of whether any machines are connected or not (sorry if up already know that).
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17. July 2010 @ 20:04 |
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I wonder if my recent electrical problems, caused the modem to go loopy...
I wonder if there's some way to self diagnose the Modem? Because now that I think about it, the problems started shortly after I had serious electric issues, which turned out being a bad receptacle on the Circuit. In another room, but on the same circuit.
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18. July 2010 @ 02:51 |
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I had much the same issue with a burnt out outlet in the wall. Apparently a whole circuit was wired through it including my entire room. And as you probably realize my room is a large energy consumer XD
The main issues were my PC not turning on at times and not rebooting properly(would just shut off when I hit reboot or saved changes in the BIOS). After rerouting the circuit and replacing the wall outlet, my problems completely disappeared :P
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18. July 2010 @ 17:36 |
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18. July 2010 @ 17:41 |
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Not really sure to be honest. They fit on LGA1156, but if they're 32nm I don't understand why they have a 95W TDP still. Presumably it's 95W like the lower-end Yorkfields, so actually 80W. Given the almost identical price and marginal increase in clock speed, it's probably a replacement for the 750 rather than an additional product in the lineup, like with the 930 vs 920.
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18. July 2010 @ 17:43 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
has anyone seen or heard anything about the new 32nm I5's? looks pretty nice.. might just be my new CPU. if i can now find a board to go with it. will the 32nm chips fit on the 1156 platform? or is there a new platfor for the 32nm chips?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067
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It's Socket LGA 1156.
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18. July 2010 @ 18:30 |
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and if you look at it, it doesnt have a set name, like lynnfield,yorkfield,wolfdale, ect.....
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18. July 2010 @ 20:17 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
and if you look at it, it doesnt have a set name, like lynnfield,yorkfield,wolfdale, ect.....
Rob,
It is a Lynnfield! Brand new. it just came out today. Here's all I could find about it.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core i5-760 BV80605001908AN (BX80605I5760).htm
This is wierd, the page just vanished. I'll hunt some more!
Russ
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18. July 2010 @ 20:27 |
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18. July 2010 @ 21:02 |
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Done out of Here!
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18. July 2010 @ 21:16 |
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You don't want an original P55, early Foxconn socket, burns out when overclocking. P55-USB3 or P55A series only for overclocking i5s with Gigabyte.
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18. July 2010 @ 21:26 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
and if you look at it, it doesnt have a set name, like lynnfield,yorkfield,wolfdale, ect.....
Rob,
It is a Lynnfield! Brand new. it just came out today. Here's all I could find about it.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core i5-760 BV80605001908AN (BX80605I5760).htm
This is wierd, the page just vanished. I'll hunt some more!
Russ
yea i found the same thing, and then the page was gone. WEIRD.
that GA-P55-UD3R is a no no, ive heard to mant bad things about that board. P55A/M is what to look for from what ive been reading. i have heard alot of great things about this one but i dont really wanna spend that much on board
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18. July 2010 @ 21:28 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You don't want an original P55, early Foxconn socket, burns out when overclocking. P55-USB3 or P55A series only for overclocking i5s with Gigabyte.
me over clock???? why would i do that??LMAO!!!!!!!!! 4.40ghz here i come!!!!!!!!
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18. July 2010 @ 21:33 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You don't want an original P55, early Foxconn socket, burns out when overclocking. P55-USB3 or P55A series only for overclocking i5s with Gigabyte.
Wrong they stopped after the Ga-81915P Duo Pro series putting Foxconn socket in. i got one in my hands at the moment if you don't believe. I'll take pictures to prove it and post it and if that was so they would have showed up on all the P35,P45 as foxconn and we all had P35 at once and Overclocked them and some still do me for sure and foxconn is writen on the clap down bracket also...Biostar did use foxconn but moved to lotes cpu sockets
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i have heard alot of great things about this one but i dont really wanna spend that much on board
If you do you gotta learn Asus setting no different that Biostar's setting in the bio screen
Give this a Look over RoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409
Just come to the Dark Side luke like your Father Named Vader:)LOL
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25. July 2010 @ 17:37 |
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25. July 2010 @ 17:48 |
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It's almost certainly true, and it'll be to do with selling K-series CPUs, which made an unremarkable debut with LGA1156. Given how well Intels overclock compared to the competition, they're presumably after fleecing people a bit more for the privilege. It is unlikely that the high end offering on X68 (the equivalent of today's i7 930 etc) will have this limitation, but I forsee it as a means of segregating the midrange powerful CPUs from the others, as the i5 760/i7 860 and i7 930 are almost in competition with themselves at present. Pay less, get an i5 quad that doesn't overclock, pay a lot more for the CPU, get an i5 quad with an unlocked multiplier, pay a bit more (but not as much more) for the CPU and the board, and get a CPU with normal overclocking, and all the high end bells and whistles.
It's unlikely to change much globally, but it could see the enthusiast sector making the switch to AMD if the bulldozer architecture impresses.
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25. July 2010 @ 18:14 |
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im waiting for bulldozer. i dont like the fact that sandybridge wont have usb3.0 as standard, instead relying on a 3rd party chip.
but just remember this:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-No-...ems-84019.shtml
no SLI no OCing, and that was 100% wrong, and wasnt just that site reporting it at the time.
i doubt this will be, but if it is, and even if it isnt, bulldozer for me.
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25. July 2010 @ 18:23 |
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LOL! Sounds like greed. I have nothing against intel, but probably AMD again for me. Though it will probably be quite some time for me, who knows ;)
100F outside, and my Cpu is idling at 32C. Love the cooler. Or should I say coolit ;) Granted I am running air conditioning as well. I'm sure both of my phenoms are loving life :D
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25. July 2010 @ 18:23 |
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Yeah, I remember that story, plus motherboard manufacturers tend to work around design limitations of chipsets where they can.
Bulldozer only holds 'pending' interest for me, as until its performance is proven, it doesn't yet hold any benefits.
That plus, CPU power isn't a major issue at the moment. There's far too much else that needs to be bought for me yet, an extra 4GB of RAM, a proper SSD, some more server capacity, a geargrip for my 30", a graphics card for my lightweight PC, and there's a looming gaming system graphics upgrade on the horizon in the form of Southern Islands.
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26. July 2010 @ 22:57 |
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I half expected to get roasted for posting that after discovering a bit more information on it from an intel employee (engineer I think) this morning. While he didn't deny the articles statements he said it was due to the architecture of SB and not because of intel's greed. He also said that even the low end SB cpu's will be overclockable and to expect some high speeds out of them.
As much as I hate to say this by the time I upgrade the cpu again it will most likely be to what ever is after SB and bulldozer :(
oman, is that 32C load or idle ;P
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27. July 2010 @ 01:22 |
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Ho ho! It's actually idling at 27°C right now. It's only 80°F outside now though :p
Motherboard is at 36°C. Still haven't removed the thermal tape from my heatsink. I guess I'm simply either lazy, or not concerned enough. I haven't seen it too toasty for a while. I really need to get an ambient temperature thermometer ;)
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27. July 2010 @ 03:47 |
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As much as I hate to say this by the time I upgrade the cpu again it will most likely be to what ever is after SB and bulldozer :(
You say that sounding dismayed/annoyed. Would you currently gain to have a faster CPU?
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