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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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Any Flaming Results in a Temp Ban or Worse. Your Choice!!!
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19. August 2010 @ 19:22 |
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Yeah ever since afterdawn moved to the v4 interface the forum system is bugged. The first new post on a page will not display, and following a link to it will just divert to the first page of the thread, until a second reply is posted, when the new page will be created, along with the new post.
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ddp
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19. August 2010 @ 21:34 |
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double posts deleted & agreed with sam about bug. told admin about it 2 weeks ago.
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22. August 2010 @ 19:21 |
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Done out of Here!
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ddp
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22. August 2010 @ 22:09 |
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bigwill, edit your darth picture.
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bigwill68
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22. August 2010 @ 22:19 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
bigwill, edit your darth picture.
Best I can Do for the size
Done out of Here!
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22. August 2010 @ 22:35 |
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23. August 2010 @ 06:04 |
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Yup, needs to be 100 pixels tall, not 140. I don't wish to sound rude, but I don't understand how it's so difficult to check the rules before posting a new signature...
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23. August 2010 @ 22:18 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
So a recent build of mine wouldnt boot after a few weeks of running fine, giving me corrupt file and checksum errors.
All signs and almighty google pointed to RAM errors which upset me because i am using 2x1GB DDR2 corsair dominator 1066. I checked 1 stick and everything started fine.
Replaced the 1st stick with the other to prove the failure but it also worked. I looked at memory settings in BIOS and realized I had low voltage.
I guess either it let me run for awhile but wasnt stable, or I didnt have things totally seated properly and reseating fixed the issue.
Deadrum,
Most motherboards start out with the default voltage set for 1.8v, which will usually allow you to boot the computer with a single stick, but doesn't work too well with two sticks. My 1066 2x2GB Dominators run at 2.1v, and barely get warm.
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GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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23. August 2010 @ 22:56 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
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Deadrum,
Most motherboards start out with the default voltage set for 1.8v, which will usually allow you to boot the computer with a single stick, but doesn't work too well with two sticks. My 1066 2x2GB Dominators run at 2.1v, and barely get warm.
Russ
I agree, and I have always set them for 2.1, but I remember during setup on this board (GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H ) that +.3 is in the BIOS red zone so i started out at +.1 and...then set it at +.2 for 2.0v and it seems to work again.
Deadrum33,
I think a lot of them are set that way. I check my voltage and it's stability with Everest and the PC Health in the Setup. I guess for someone with 1.85v memory, this could be a good thing, but the Red is meaningless to you and I with our 2.1v memory, It has no effect on the running of the computer, and changes nothing in the setup to compensate for the higher voltage.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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24. August 2010 @ 02:12 |
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So a recent build of mine wouldnt boot after a few weeks of running fine, giving me corrupt file and checksum errors.
All signs and almighty google pointed to RAM errors which upset me because i am using 2x1GB DDR2 corsair dominator 1066 and havent had an issue in about 28 sticks used. I checked 1 stick and everything started fine.
Replaced the 1st stick with the other to prove the failure but it also worked. I looked at memory settings in BIOS and realized I had low voltage so I upped it closer to rated speed and put both sticks in since both worked singularly.
I guess either low voltage let me run for awhile but wasnt stable, or I didnt have things totally seated properly and reseating fixed the issue. Anyway things work, and all you noobs out there dont make my mistakes blah blah blah...
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24. August 2010 @ 02:50 |
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Quote:
Deadrum,
Most motherboards start out with the default voltage set for 1.8v, which will usually allow you to boot the computer with a single stick, but doesn't work too well with two sticks. My 1066 2x2GB Dominators run at 2.1v, and barely get warm.
Russ
I agree, and I have always set them for 2.1, but I remember during setup on this board (GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H ) that +.3 is in the BIOS red zone so i started out at +.1 and...then set it at +.2 for 2.0v and it seems to work again.
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redice
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29. August 2010 @ 01:09 |
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@ sam or anybody
the fan on my EVGA GeForce 7600 GS died and i was wondering if there is a easy fix or something to hold me until i get the money to replace the card.
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29. August 2010 @ 02:31 |
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Perhaps this badboy.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Tpk=EVGA%207600
But then, perhaps simply trying to replace the fan, with a fan of same/similar specifications is all you need. I would probably just do that. Unless my card were running on the warm side beforehand. THEN I would attempt to give it a better cooler ;) I'm sure newegg has a fan that meets your needs.
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29. August 2010 @ 05:24 |
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Well, as said already, you can either get a replacement fan the same, or buy an aftermarket cooler. Thankfully a 7600GS isn't too difficult to cool.
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29. August 2010 @ 08:55 |
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Guys, i'm sure it was discussed in one of the threads recently, but i'm wanting to get some kind of air compressor.
Today my main pc started it's once in a while game of hide and reboot. Most annoying when it happens, it always make you think it's something you just installed. Back when it used to first happen i would reinstall Windows 'over the top' but when it happened again after that i realised it was dust buildup. A few months back i cut some women's tights and placed on the front of the case (Antec 900) which cuts airflow a tad but keeps most of the dust out.
Anyways, some dust still gets in and so far today the machine has stayed up without rebooting after a good clean out of the Zalman fan and the Corsair RAM fan. Now i'm not one for dismantling the PC to clean (or even tidy the wiring) as more often than not such a task results in instability from knocking something. We have a commercial air compressor at work but there's no way i'm moving this monster of a machine, even once, never mind risking damage by transporting by car, so i want to buy a compressor of some sort, something with low maintenance if there's such a beast. (Cans of compressed air is not an option, as good as they are i'm not paying for air).
Ideas ?
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29. August 2010 @ 09:03 |
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Er, not sure to be honest. I never find I need to go to the extent of spraying air around the place to get my system stable. Generally no matter how dusty or otherwise it is inside, any stability problems are either from something that's actually faulty, or software issues OS-side. Personally if you have to keep your PC spotless to stop it rebooting, I think you have an issue you need to work out. Perhaps run some memory tests?
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29. August 2010 @ 09:10 |
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Nah, i did memory tests for hours the first time this happened (and a few other times), that and all other tests and troubleshooting (including running off linux live cd's and linux USB sticks) came up empty. As i say, it only happens once in a while and it always goes away without anything other than careful cleaning of the CPU fan. All of the Antec's fans are permanently on full (loud but good airflow), it's literally only happening due to the Zalman getting (slightly) bunged up from time to time, of that i'm 100% sure.
As i say, since i've had the tights on the front of the case the dust intake has been drastically reduced (i don't keep the Antec on the floor), the cat (who's the size of a tiger) moults (no idea how that's spelt) endlessly so even with the case up on the desk the PC attracts more crud that it otherwise would.
The long/small brush i use is obviously working, i just want something a little more efficient. If a small compressor is too expensive i'll stick with the brush. I'd buy compressed air cans as long as it was thru work but can't justify it being as we have the industrial compressor to use).
Main PC ~ Intel C2Q Q6600 (G0 Stepping)/Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3/2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec 900/Corsair HX 620W
Network ~ DD-WRT ~ 2node WDS-WPA2/AES ~ Buffalo WHR-G54S. 3node WPA2/AES ~ WRT54GS v6 (inc. WEP BSSID), WRT54G v2, WRT54G2 v1. *** Forum Rules ***
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29. August 2010 @ 12:15 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, as said already, you can either get a replacement fan the same, or buy an aftermarket cooler. Thankfully a 7600GS isn't too difficult to cool.
ok thanks but it looks like the card is dead for good now because i just notice that it has two Leaking Capacitors.
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29. August 2010 @ 14:18 |
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Haha leaking and blown capacitors are extremely common on 7600 series cards. Had two 7600GTs myself with the same issue. If you look at newegg, all the bad reviews that are after a year usually point to blown caps.
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29. August 2010 @ 15:43 |
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If I remember rightly, moreso with EVGA non-reference cards than other brands, which is where my scepticism of EVGA began. Only one decent partner left for nvidia now really which is Palit.
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29. August 2010 @ 15:50 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Haha leaking and blown capacitors are extremely common on 7600 series cards. Had two 7600GTs myself with the same issue. If you look at newegg, all the bad reviews that are after a year usually point to blown caps.
well i wish i would have know that about the leaking and blown capacitors before i got the card.
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29. August 2010 @ 15:54 |
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29. August 2010 @ 16:01 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
If I remember rightly, moreso with EVGA non-reference cards than other brands, which is where my scepticism of EVGA began. Only one decent partner left for nvidia now really which is Palit.
zotac, msi, gigabyte?
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29. August 2010 @ 18:28 |
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To be honest, unless you bought it second hand long after they were first made, we wouldn't have been able to tell you. Stuff like this often only tends to materialise after the cards are obsolete and no longer sold.
Zotac seem to make decent stuff for nvidia actually, to be fair. However, I didn't really consider Gigabyte/MSI/Asus as they're more generic than they are partners. They make all sorts of other stuff too. Either way, of the original 'big three' - BFG, XFX, EVGA, only EVGA are left, and they, in my mind, were the weakest of the three.
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29. August 2010 @ 18:56 |
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their GTX460s are getting rave reviews, very OCable, quiet and very good coolers for their non ref versions. Can't comment on other cards. Palit, though i like, and are asias biggest nvidia partner sent different cards to reviews tthan to retail, which seems didgy. No VRM cooling on the retail versions, loud fans aswell, till they issued a bios update.
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