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11. October 2008 @ 01:33 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
GTR: No, I have good vision, why is a 30" bad for you? LCDs don't emit radiation like CRTs...
Lol, i'm surpirse you have good eye sight, because my eyes are getting really bad. I think it's because of my 15" so i have to sit closer to the monitor.
Seriously the NXZT case you have is Sweet!
Originally posted by cincyrob:
the antec 300 and CM590 are on par together. all 3 of them have awsome amount of air flow.. i haven the RC690(and wanting the HAF932) if i had to do it over i would get the RC590 over the 690... the 690 is a couple inches tall but no big deal....as Sam sai the HAF is about twice as much as the 690 right now. but the HAF is a sweet azz case...thats my delima get that HAF or a HD4850 gpu????
in short you cant go wrong with any of the 3 cases you picked. plenty airflow. plenty room to get around in them. i have worked on both the 690/590(bigwill has the 590) and are easy to work with.. and looking at the 300 over and over it looks about the same setup give or take a extra here and there. and depending on how many drive bays you want need...
Hey thats my problem too, first i was thinking which one to get then i decided to get the case instead, because cases usually last much longer than GPUs.
Reading your comment, it seems you're recommending CM590. CM690 is a bit taller than CM590 but doesn't that mean it has bit more space for airflow/components?
Originally posted by cincyrob:
sorry guy i didnt mean to ruin you GPU thread with all this chatter about cases...
Lol, don't be since i'm the one that really started this case discussion
Originally posted by harvrdguy:
Wow, GTR, too bad about the HAF ending up almost double the price. So you have a set of three new cases to pick from. Nobody is considering the NZXT tempest - why not? (nobody likes the looks???)
yeah *tears* can't help it.
No bloody way! I love the Tempest it's just that i can't get it in SA other wise i would've chosen Tempest and not having troubles picking cases.
@Spam
LOL, you know what? I'll take both!
SEX
Now Ive got your attention please read my post above
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11. October 2008 @ 02:43 |
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LOL this thread is funny
Wish I had cousins like that :P
How many pakistanis are there on this thread,and who are they???
I've completely lost track :P
All this talk of air flow is driving me crazy by the way.
@ sam - Love the lights on your server, black and red make a killer combo
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11. October 2008 @ 05:47 |
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Or, the fan being impeded will destroy the bearing. Your choice Rich! :P
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11. October 2008 @ 16:07 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Or, the fan being impeded will destroy the bearing. Your choice Rich! :P
I might have known you wouldn't let me get away with that, haha. I woke up today and said to myself - "Just take the kama bay apart again and put another set of bloody washers on - Sam is going to give you sh*t about being lazy again."
(I had the same thought - even the tiniest bit of sideways pressure cannot not be good for long fan life - I've already got the side panels off lol.)
Shaff I already AM into comedy - this is the comedy thread - didn't they tell you that? Comedy, plus a little bit of technology thrown in for good measure.
Speaking of comedy - I had to go to traffic school to get rid of a speeding point - $210 for going 60 in a 45, just heading down a hill on the way to the post office. (A friend told me the motorcycle cops hide behind the park maintenance building and use their radar. So my eyes are now glued to the speedometer at all times. lol)
But they used to have comedy traffic school classes. The company that ran them was called Lettuce Entertain You. The idea was that you would pay more attention with a little levity thrown in - kind of Shaff's point. But this class last Saturday was more serious - although the very nice South African lady had a lovely British accent. The new idea is - "Why are you an aggressive driver?" - the psychology of aggressive driving, versus a more laid-back safer style. It was bloody hard to stay awake for 8 hours, but it DID get me thinking.
I told a female relative the other day - "why are YOU an aggressive driver." She decided to introduce some comedy and made me get out and walk home.
Just kidding. But hopefully it made her think a little - I told her all about the class.
And the reason this is not off-thread is ... (help me out shaff.) Lol.
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11. October 2008 @ 16:18 |
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HOLY CRAP, how did I miss this mess? lol
You guys are on so many topics I don't know what to talk about.
Oh and only three Pakistani guys on here. Me, Shaf, and Ray. Rob is not Pakistani lol.
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11. October 2008 @ 16:34 |
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Yeah, where you been Boozer? You mean to tell me that Rob was lying about shaff's cousin being his sister? So there is actually somebody on this thread who doesn't tell the 100% honest truth 100% of the time? That's it - I'm gonna have to spend all day tomorrow in church to try to get my faith back!
GTR, you DO like the Tempest. That's good to hear, finally. I was really warming up to the HAF, but if they've bumped the price up to the moon .... BTW, where is SA where you can't get the Tempest - oh, South Africa?? Like the traffic school teacher!! lol
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11. October 2008 @ 16:53 |
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Originally posted by harvrdguy:
So, cincy, you're the 4th pakistani in our group??? Throw some urdu at us! LOL-Rich
You mean to tell me that Rob was lying about shaff's cousin being his sister? So there is actually somebody on this thread who doesn't tell the 100% honest truth 100% of the time?
uh-dah-umm-?????
sorry fresh out of things to say...lol
no not paki. 100% USDA Ground beef.. borrn and breed..lol
were all brothers and sisters.... ;)
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11. October 2008 @ 17:25 |
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Where have I been?
Doing my math homework and watching the Cricket match between Pakistan and Sri-lanka(hosted in Canada).
PAKISTAN WON!!!! WHOO
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11. October 2008 @ 17:36 |
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Cricket, cricket, cricket! You know, I've been flipping the channels and I can't find any cricket matches. (CAUSE NOBODY IS INTERESTED!)
Just kidding Abuzar. LOL I'm glad the home team won. Kuddos to Pakistan!
Boozer, you're the big system builder - 20 systems or so, right? If one were to think in terms of a 4870 - or next year's version - and get a two slot graphics card with with rear exhaust cooler, (starting with one card, then adding another at a future date) then a crossfire mobo would have to have 4 high performance pci-e slots. Is that easy to find - or does that take one into HIGH prices?
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11. October 2008 @ 17:42 |
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Umm, I don't think 4 PCI-E slots exists on a regular motherboard. I've seen three, not 4. Anyway, you only need 2 PCI-E slots to have Xfire 4870s(or next years version)
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11. October 2008 @ 17:52 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Where have I been?
Doing my math homework and watching the Cricket match between Pakistan and Sri-lanka(hosted in Canada).
PAKISTAN WON!!!! WHOO
HELL YEAH!!!!!!
I was watching it too, killer finish a real nail biter
I agree we are all one big family :P
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11. October 2008 @ 18:01 |
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Intel has skulltrail, thats it's one motherboard with 4 PCI-E slots.
Oh yeah. Those last three sixes were the only thing that saved us. Shoaib Malik should not have been man of the match.
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11. October 2008 @ 18:07 |
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I know, at one point I was pretty sure we were gunna lose
IMHO Umar Gul should have been man of the match
(sorry for hijacking the thread with cricket talk :P)
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11. October 2008 @ 18:10 |
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Either him or Fawad Alam.
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11. October 2008 @ 18:15 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Fawad Alam.
Yeah he pretty much saved us with the sixes
First time I saw him play, I was impressed
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11. October 2008 @ 18:19 |
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Yup, they should really move him up. He played with confidence under so much pressure. The kid would make an excellent opener.
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11. October 2008 @ 18:25 |
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Yeah, for sure
Better than the other new opener (the one with Salman Butt), he didn't play that well
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11. October 2008 @ 18:34 |
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And Afridi sucked like always.
I'm wondering what all these people think of the Cricket talk haha.
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11. October 2008 @ 18:38 |
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Yea, I think we should get back on topic
I only have two female cousins one is 5 one is 25, so no need for pics, what bout u boozer???
(back on topic :P)
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11. October 2008 @ 18:39 |
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Dude, I have so many female cousins I can't keep track of them all.
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11. October 2008 @ 19:13 |
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Originally posted by Ray:
(sorry for hijacking the thread with cricket talk :P)
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!
Whew - would it NEVER end. HE should have been man of the game, HE sucked as usual, HE should marry my cousin! Hahahaha! Good match I guess.
No boozer, I can see that you were concentrating on something else. (I was doing something exciting too, waiting for that match to end - sitting out in my backyard watching the grass grow. lol)
Here's what I meant: With the 2 slot versions of the 4870 or next year's card, the style of card that blows the hot air out the back of the case - do the crossfire mobos space out the graphics card pci-e slots enough so you aren't really taking up two of them with that style of a graphics card - or does that style of a graphics card pose problems if you intend eventually to have two of them in crossfire mode?
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11. October 2008 @ 19:15 |
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Yeah, look up any pic of a crossfire motherboard. The slot right underneath the PCI-E slot is probably PCI or PCI-E x1 so one card doesn't take up two PCI-E x16 slots.
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11. October 2008 @ 20:11 |
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Ok, thanks boozer. That's what I wanted to know.
Hooray! I added the extra washers to the Kama Bay - the fan is now humming along without any - THAT'S RIGHT SAM ZERO - former noise of fan gently scraping thin X crossed filter retaining springs.
To keep myself sane, I ran Mark6 Return to Proxycom about 18 times while the cricket match was underway - I just couldn't take all of Afridi's screwups!!
The result: lower gpu and environmental temps than what I've been getting lately as reported by ATI Tray Tool. My gpu fan hit 59% at gpu temp of 66 - in the last many weeks during gaming day Wednesdays, I've been watching the fan run at 100% with gpu in the 80s, and annoying artifacts - brown walls across the screen, interfering in COD4 mp - getting me killed more often than usual!! How can I see the idiot with the shotgun - shaff probably - when there's a big brown fake wall across my screen that nobody else has on their computer!
I wonder how many months has my main front inlet 1600 rpm 120mm scythe been jammed by the filter? Here was the problem:
Thank god all that talk about top case fans made me take my side cover off yesterday to see if I could drill a set of holes on top of my case to mod a top exhaust case fan. Otherwise this situation would have gone on forever.
Hey, does anybody know a good patent attorney? I should be able to make enough bread from my kama bay fix above to be able to attract Shaff's cousin #2 and get her to forget about family - go for the man with the dough, right? Lol
Anyway, the answer to the top case exhaust fan question is, Yes I can. I know you were all wondering. (No you're all still arguing about Umar Gul versus Shoaib Malik for man of the match.)
But I have decided not to do that. The cpu hsf gets fresh air from a Sunbeam hose connected to a filtered opening in the side of the case. But other than, my only fresh inlet air is coming in from the top front mounted kama bay.
Looking at it with the side cover off, with a top exhaust fan I am afraid that some of that fresh air would simply come in and immediately go right out the top of the case - whereas I'm going to need that fresh air in the middle when the 3850 gets installed. Cooling the gpu, it can then exit the top psu, the upper back exhaust, the lower side exhaust, or the bottom blitztorm exhaust. Sam wants me to get the nice HIS 2-slot 3850 with rear exhaust, but I'll probably cheap out for $60 savings and get the Sapphire which just blows the hot air inside the case - I think my case can handle it! (Don't blame me for being a cheap bastard - all you guys said don't put any more money in a P4.)
My decision not to install a top-mounted exhaust fan raises an interesting question - depending on where your fresh air is coming from - does a top exhaust fan ALWAYS improve case cooling. In my case I am saying I am worried that it won't, but maybe I'm just wrong. What do all you guys think about that?
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11. October 2008 @ 21:46 |
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Afridi screwed up once. No second chances when you are batting. He was out there batting for maybe 5 mins and he got out. LIKE ALWAYS. I need to stop expecting things from him.
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11. October 2008 @ 23:48 |
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Face it boozer, you have a bad case of cricket addiction. No helping you once you watch a match and start judging Afridi again - it's in your blood. He told me to ask you for forgiveness but I don't think it's in you. He was on his knees sobbing. I told him "Allah Akhbar" that calmed him down a little. I don't think you should be so harsh. After all, think of all those cousins, and poor shaff only the two.
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