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14. October 2008 @ 15:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
My Current laptop:

Sony Vaio
1.5Ghz Pentium Dual Core
2GB of RAM
Integrated X3100 Graphics
160GB HDD

My New Laptop(hopefully):
Sexy new Dell Studio 15
2ghz C2D
3GB RAM
ATI 3450
250GB HDD
Fingerprint scanner

Selling my Vaio for 550 and buying the dell for 450 ;)
Nice one, I've heard good things about the studio, wonder how the card rates against mine, post some specs when you get it (IF):P



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14. October 2008 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your card is better. I REALLY could use the extra CPU speed and Ram though. So I'm comfortable running Vista.

That Studio looks sexy as hell. This is what my current laptop looks like. It's UGLY :(



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14. October 2008 @ 15:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea, my acer's not bad

I'll take some pics, and post em here :P

EDIT - Here is one from the WWW to get you started :P






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My GAMING LAPTOP!! : Acer Aspire 5930G - P8400 2.26Ghz//4 GB DDR2//GeForce 9600M GT 512MB GDDR3
Ultimate Handheld/Portable Gaming Device :P

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14. October 2008 @ 16:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, I never liked the look of the Acers. No offense or anything, I always thought they were ugly. Ehh, I'm REALLY Critical. I wouldn't buy the Inspirons before because they looked pretty bad to me too.

This is what mine will look like!! :)




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14. October 2008 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know not the best looking but not bad, and performance is good

I actually wanted an XPS, but you can't configure them here, you can just buy pre-configured ones, and the one with similar specs to my acer was wayyyyy to expensive

I'm happy :D



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My GAMING LAPTOP!! : Acer Aspire 5930G - P8400 2.26Ghz//4 GB DDR2//GeForce 9600M GT 512MB GDDR3
Ultimate Handheld/Portable Gaming Device :P
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14. October 2008 @ 16:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looking at Steam I've come to realize that games don't really seem to be any cheaper via DD as they would if I picked up them up at retail. Seeing that and how I avoid BB/FS like the plague I've come to realize I have no idea where a PC would purchase games in Canada, somewhere with good selection and good pricing?

Any advice fellow canucks? I'm sure Wal-Mart has some but they seem more geared towards console gaming, same with HMV.
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14. October 2008 @ 16:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
WHy not try ebay? Or amazon.com.
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14. October 2008 @ 17:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rich: That's correct. Carrying a case without one was agony by comparison, compounded by the extra size and weight of full towers (the PC-A70B may be light, but the Antec 900 is featherweight, and was still a real pain to carry due to all the sharp angles)

As for overclocking, basic MSI boards have no features for it whatsoever. Check your BIOS, but I'm not that hopeful, you may have to use CPUFSB (Software overclocking) , which will give limited results.
GTR: Technically you should have an SFF PC for LAN. Small form factor cases like the NZXT Rogue and Silverstone Sugo may be big for SFFs, but are still half the size of full PCs and can carry proper top-end components. OcUK sell a PC with a 4870X2 in one, that shows you how much room there is.


Man, these laptop pics are getting bigger and bigger! 980x1027 Abuzar?

Shamb1les: They aren't cheaper, but they're convenient. You never lose the game, whereas if you lose the DVD for a real game, you're chuffed.



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14. October 2008 @ 21:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm getting a slim 12-14"(I'm not sure) Dell notebook. It has a 1.4GHz Pentium M, 1GB of Crucial RAM, and an 80GB HDD. Using Intel Extreme Graphics 2m. It has a docking station with the extra battery, charging ports, DVD-RW drive and I/O ports. Out of the dock it has 2 USB plugins. With the docking station, it has 6. The whole thing is in working order... actually, it's like new. It's really nice. I'm getting it for $100 from my sister so I thought it was a good deal :P

I'm hoping to play Half Life 1, Starcraft, Stronghold, Diablo 2, Freedom Fighters, Call of Duty. I just want to try it out. Old games are awesome on a laptop!



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14. October 2008 @ 21:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
GOOD DEAL BRO! Post some pics! I bought my Dell Studio 15 as well! So excited! I can't wait to get it. I'll post some pics too. It's a lovely Midnight Blue colour.
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15. October 2008 @ 00:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's a Dell Latitude X300 Slim Notebook. Google it and check it out.

[EDIT]

Here's what I found.

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/dell-lat...7-30468821.html

It seems to be without the expansion dock in the battery life tests as that has its own 1900mAh battery as well. Looks like you can get roughly 5-6 hours on a full charge using both batteries.

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I'm guessing it's a refurbished school or college laptop. That's where my sister gets all her laptops. She hasn't had a bad one yet. She still uses an old 850MHz Pentium III, 512MB RAM, 40GB HDD laptop(takes it to the gym) as well as her current 1.73GHz Core 2 Duo, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD one(for home). The 850MHz Pentium III is surprisingly snappy in Windows XP with 512MB. I spent a lot of time finding the old style RAM to upgrade it, but it was worth it. She wouldn't take $200 for it last year when I wanted a cheap laptop :P

I'll hopefully have the laptop the Friday after next when I can pay her the $100. If I can snag my sis's camera for a while, I can lay it all out and post some pics. It's the full setup with all the peripherals and extras intact, and I've already had enough time with it to say everything works like new :D

There aren't any speakers on the laptop itself, but the dock has a fairly good set of speakers on it. They sound very good for laptop speakers and have some obvious power. The undocked laptop also has a headphone jack so I can plug in my Sennheisers and not have to worry about speakers :)

The case is scratched up a bit though, and the keys are obviously a bit worn. But, as far as I can tell, it's been babied a lot. Everything is in perfect working order, and it has fairly recently replaced batteries in both the dock and the main laptop.

The screen is only 1024 x 768 max so it must be like 12" or something. It's got the Intel Centrino platform as well. So ready to interface with my wireless network... If that's what it indeed means.

Anyways, I don't need much for a laptop. The Pentium M 1.4GHz is roughly equal to an Athlon XP 1800+ which is plenty of power for movies, websurfing, SNES/PSX emulation, and some old-school PC games. I figure it's better than spending $600 on a newer laptop that I won't be doing much else than that with. It's about as good as the $700 ASUS Eee PCs and, IMO, pretty close in size :D

I'm going to be reformatting it right away as it's loaded with viruses. I think that's why she wants to get rid of it. Maybe she's just being nice though :P

When I finally get it and finish the reformat, I'll be posting with the laptop to test it out, so look for it in two weeks or so.

Anyways, I don't know if I should call it a notebook or a laptop, lol. When plugged into the dock, it becomes quite heavy and is rightly a laptop. But when you remove the dock, it's like 1.5-2cm thick and weighs barely anything. Maybe 3lbs? It's really small and light.

Anyhoo... excited. The last laptop I had was bulky, weighed like twice as much, sucked at battery life, and only had 512MB of RAM. So this is a good re-entry into mobile computing for me. It really is pretty well featured and nice. Dell does make quality hardware, if overpriced :)



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15. October 2008 @ 04:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Agreed, Dell hardware is usually pretty solid and $100 for any laptop is good. As for a P3 being speedy, that's because they're twice as fast as P4s for the same clockspeed... :P



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15. October 2008 @ 04:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm mostly excited to see what I can do with it. I want to load it with some movies and all of my music plus a bunch of games with cracked exes. Here's a list of Games I know to have worked well with Extreme Graphics 2:

Call of Duty
Medal of Honor AA
Half-Life
Half-Life 2(lowest settings)
Star Wars Battlefront
Stronghold
Stronghold Crusader
RTCW
Wolfenstein ET
Unreal Tournament GOTY
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2
Battlefield Vietnam(possibly. last time i tried with EG2 I only had 512MB of RAM and it was doable, so 1GB should see a large improvement.)
Final Fantasy 7
Halo PC with the shader fix
Freedom Fighters

I have all the original disks for these and they're all pretty small games so there should be no problem with the 80GB HDD. They should work flawlessly on it so we'll see what kind of mobile gaming I can do :)

I can't wait :D



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15. October 2008 @ 04:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All of those games, HL2 included, are pretty damn old. To say Integrated graphics can't game at all is ludicrous due to titles like these, but to say they can play modern games is just as farsical. Games like STALKER Clear Sky have to be played at 1024x768 all minimum to be playable on even the best integrated chipsets, and that game actually scales pretty well. GRiD is a complete lost cause above 800x600, and even then it's laggy. You're looking at single figure frame rates at anything above 1024x768 all minimum for Crysis Warhead.



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15. October 2008 @ 04:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Intergrated GPUs aren't that good
The 64MB on my dad'd ol toshiba used to be able to play NFS UG, and halo, but I forget at which settings, it's 5 years old and still solid.

I got mine beacause I wasn't able to build a desktop, and I'm quite happy with this. it can never match a desktop, of course, but it plays all games at 1280x800 at medium high

If you guys want I'll post some benchies ;D



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15. October 2008 @ 05:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Indeed, but gaming laptops do exist, yours is a good example. Gaming integrated graphics do not.



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15. October 2008 @ 09:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Indeed, but gaming laptops do exist, yours is a good example.
Thanks :D

Originally posted by sammorris:
Gaming integrated graphics do not.
I get what you mean



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15. October 2008 @ 11:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh chee, so we're on laptop talk now huh?

I want one too, but it's way too expensive for a gaming laptop. I was thinking buying a cheap one with good CPU and decent amount of RAM but intergrated GPU, then i can get a external graphics for the laptop which makes is much cheaper but don't know if that really works or not.

Last night i was seriously thinking of getting a HD4670, because it should be much faster than 8600GTS. The reason i want to buy that card is because it's cheap and it should last quite sometime, and because my 8600GTS sure can handle latest games with no problem then the HD4670 shouldn't have a problem too. Well at least with my 15 monitor that is.

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15. October 2008 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think the whole external graphics thing ever totally worked out.
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15. October 2008 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
external graphics solutions do work, but are nowhere near as good as the real thing.



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15. October 2008 @ 11:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NEWB QUESTION, but

what are external graphic solutions???



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how come i thought, you can add a newer GPU to the "external gpu"?

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15. October 2008 @ 11:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
An external graphics card that plugs into an expresscard slot in a laptop.

To my knowledge you can't, as only a certan few will fit, use an appropriate amount of power, and won't use up too much bandwidth.



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15. October 2008 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cool, I didn't know that was possible

How much better would they be, compared to an internal card



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15. October 2008 @ 11:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well in most cases they wouldn't. I'd put them between integrated graphics and a proper card.



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