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crowy
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31. October 2006 @ 20:56 |
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Russ,the base on that cooler is only 3mm thick!!!!
I could drill 20x1mm holes in it,try to find 40x1mm connectors to suit and have 40 little plastic hoses running out the side of my case
Would look like I've got 5 baby octopuses hiding inside
In all seriousness though I'll try the one I'm getting and see how it goes.
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31. October 2006 @ 21:10 |
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crowy,
If you look carefully you will see that it's much thicker, and it's not hollow inside. I think they are talking about the base that mounts on the CPU. The whole copper area is twice as thick and includes the thickness of the mount arms. Note the screw holes and you will see that it's solid from the base of the fins on down!
Theone
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crowy
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31. October 2006 @ 21:27 |
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Russ,
Now I can see what you mean.
So that would give me 6mm to work with.
That means the ID of the holes would only be @max 3mm.
I was hoping for more like 10mm holes.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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31. October 2006 @ 21:31 |
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Crowy,
I was right! I went to the manufacturers web site and the base thickness is 6mm! Not 3! No problem drilling the right size holes it that. 4 or 5 holes depending on which end you want the return line I have plenty of the right size tubing and fittings and you are more than welcome to them. I don't like to use copper tubing for fittings as they will eventually crack from fatigue and vibration! Run into that problem all the time on cheap water blocks in Dental units. The ones with the brass pipes, last just about forever! Screw in brass fittings are the safest way to go. I use them all the time in my work and they very rarely break off. Even them it's usually caused by corrosion from city water and the thread rots off the fittings. 50/50 distilled water and anti-freeze ahould work best! There won't be any corrosion at all!
Happy Computering,
theone
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31. October 2006 @ 21:51 |
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Crowy, 10mm would be way too big. The whole idea is to get the water to spend enough time in the block to take away the most heat, and to have enough material in the block to absorb the heat from the CPU. 10mm pipes would move the water so fast that it wouldn't cool very well. Our water heaters for the water syringe on Dental units are almost the same size as a CPU cooler base and they use the drill size for a 10/32 thread. Use a #21 drill bit and it will be perfect! the water flow will be fast enough to get the most benefit, with a little help passively from the cooling fins as well. You could even mount a fan on the fins!
Happy Computering,
theone
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crowy
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31. October 2006 @ 21:55 |
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Russ,
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I don't like to use copper tubing for fittings as they will eventually crack from fatigue and vibration!
I hope I don't have anything vibrating enough for that to happen!!
I'll give this one a go and see how it works.
If it's not what I expect,I might give that one a go.Regards,Crowy.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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31. October 2006 @ 22:27 |
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Crowy,
Bad choice of words on my part. It's the frequency the buzz from all the fans and the PS make that's the problem. Copper tubing is softer and more flexible than the hard copper of the block so it flexes ever so slightly. It will fracture where the soft copper meets the hard It's a matter of harmonics which was my main problem this past week with my air turbine design. I finally traced it to the tips of the impeller resonating as they approached the speed of sound. At 540,000 RPM the turbine blades run well above the speed of sound but when you put pressure on it like in drilling a tooth, it would constantly slow down enough to tear itself up because of the harmonics it qould encounter. Once I figured it out it was easy to fix the problem. I'm almost done with it and the design should be approved in about 2 to 3 weeks!
Happy Computering,
Russ
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crowy
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1. November 2006 @ 01:15 |
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Russ,
Thought this may interest you..
http://www.gizmag.com.au/go/6245/
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I'm almost done with it and the design should be approved in about 2 to 3 weeks!
Keep us posted!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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1. November 2006 @ 01:41 |
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Crowy,
See that silver thing in almost the middle of the picture? What I'm working on is less than half it's size! Roughly about the diameter of a cigarette butt! The ball bearings are even smaller. The whole assembly is about 5/16" long and has a minimum of 5 seperate parts and a max of about 9. Little bitty stuff! The narrowest bearings are about 3/32". Years ago when turbines only spun about 200,000 RPM the turbine cartridges just slid into a metal housing and the bearings were held in place by the housing and a screw on cap. Today's handpieces would deafen you with that type of mount so they are suspended in tiny little o-rings to quiet them down. Even then, they still make 65db and up! Loud suckers! Next time you go to the Dentist and he drills a tooth, think about the fact that inside the very end of the drill, there's a turbine spinning at over 400,000 RPM!
Happy Computering,
Russ
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crowy
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1. November 2006 @ 01:46 |
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That's amazing stuff Russ!!
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Next time you go to the Dentist and he drills a tooth, think about the fact that inside the very end of the drill, there's a turbine spinning at over 400,000 RPM!
I used to hate dentists.........now I hate them even more!!LOL!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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1. November 2006 @ 01:58 |
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Crowy,
Here's a pic of one of the simpler one. It's a bit larger than life. Check out how many parts!
Amazing!
Russ
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BigCharb
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1. November 2006 @ 16:17 |
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SUP, i today ordered a setup that i hope to take to 4Ghz. i bought 2GCorsair dual channel ram PC6400 5-5-5-12. i was going to get the PC6400C4 4-4-4-12 version but the site i ordered from was sold out. will i be able to reach 4Ghz with the ram i got? the mobo i also ordered is an Asus P5B Deluxe, and i got a water cooling kit so I'm not worried about overheating. thankx :)
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lmaosix
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1. November 2006 @ 16:19 |
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BigCharb! Sup!. With those timings and that mother board, i think it will not be possible to reach a stable 4 GHz overclock. I see the numbers 3 and .8 in your future my friend
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BigCharb
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1. November 2006 @ 16:23 |
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SO...the only way to reach a stable 4Ghz overclock is with 4-4-4-12 ram timings? if so than i will try to see and return the ram i gotten and get dome with those timings. the processor for my build is an E6600 2.4Ghz. i have a personal goal of 4Ghz, and I'm pretty much go'n to do whatever i can to get there. thanx for the input :)
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ATI X800XL Oc'ed 450/580
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crowy
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1. November 2006 @ 16:42 |
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BigCharb,
Hi buddy.
I don't want to put a dampener on your system,but at 4ghz you may or may not get into windows but I can promise you it won't be stable.
Water cooling will help with your o/clock but even water has it's limits with heat dissipation.I would aim for 3.6 stable.Anything beyond that will be a bonus.Phase change cooling may get you stable @4ghz but for an extra ~$1000 is it worth it?
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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BigCharb
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1. November 2006 @ 16:56 |
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YES Crowy! well, i have seen quite a few people on the toms hardware forum with the E6600 processor at 4Ghz, but with lower latency ram. the ram i got is at 5-5-5-12 but i found a customer review on the same ram i got and he managed to bring down the timings to 4-4-3-7 and take them up to 961Mhz at 2.3Volts. i plan to do the same thing but with slightly less aggressive latency and a frequency of 850, that should get me to 4. the mobo i got is an Asus P5B Deluxe which according to people i talked to, should enable be to adjust the ram accordingly. i am a n00b, and this will be my first extreme overclock, and i hope to do it BIG. thanks :)
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Corsair Dualchannel 6400-DDR2 XMS
Intel Core2Duo E6600 O'ed 3.8
Thermaltake TR2 550Watt PSU
Swiftech H20-120 Premium CPU Liquid Cooling Kit
ATI X800XL Oc'ed 450/580
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crowy
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1. November 2006 @ 17:14 |
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BigCharb,
I wish you well.
Just keep an eye on your temps.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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1. November 2006 @ 18:49 |
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BigCharb,
I'm puzzled by something! Here's a copy of your sig.
Aspire X-cruiser case
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz(oc'd 3.4)
Kingston 1G DDR
250Gb Maxtor HD
Liquid cooled
ATI X700pro (oc'd 515/523)
400 watt power suppy
3Dmark05 3936
I've been running my 3.0/800 Prescott for about 4 months at 3.94, and I couldn't help but notice that yours is OC'd to 3.4. Your sig doesn't say what your MB is, so I don't know if that's the problem. I can give you a few helpful hints though. The first one is the power supply. 400 watts is not enough. If it's the PS that came with the case, it won't come anywhere's near it's rated wattage. You also say "liquid cooled". Is that just the Video, the CPU or both. Also, which socket P-4 do you have. Mine is a 478 on an Asus P4P800-SE MB with 1GB of Corsair Cas2 DDR400 memory. I had no problem running it at 3.84 using 1GB of PNY Optima Cas3 memory.
I know you are building a new one but I'd like to help you get this one running better if you would like.
Sincerely,
theone
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1. November 2006 @ 22:44 |
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Yeah I'd predict an E6600 with CAS5 RAM to top out somewhere around 3.5-3.6 unless you're very aggressive. The point being that CAS4 can be dropped to CAS5 in order to get higher overclocks...
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BigCharb
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2. November 2006 @ 11:05 |
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SUP, yeah, my sig shows my present set up. I'm able only to hit a max of 3.4 because i bought a cheap mobo off some guy from school. my water cooling system is CPU and GPU cooled.My processor is socket 470 and built on the Presscot platform 1mb L2 cache and has hyper threading; my processor is sick but my mobo is CRAP! My ram is Kingston value ram for 110 bucks from tiger. As you can see, for my first home built comp i think its pretty good. I can also play new games like BF2142 online with med settings. thanks for trying to help get more speed but i don't really care much...I'm selling it to my bro for 900 dollars! L8er :)
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Corsair Dualchannel 6400-DDR2 XMS
Intel Core2Duo E6600 O'ed 3.8
Thermaltake TR2 550Watt PSU
Swiftech H20-120 Premium CPU Liquid Cooling Kit
ATI X800XL Oc'ed 450/580
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BigCharb
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2. November 2006 @ 11:09 |
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OH sorry, socket 478...LMAO
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Intel Core2Duo E6600 O'ed 3.8
Thermaltake TR2 550Watt PSU
Swiftech H20-120 Premium CPU Liquid Cooling Kit
ATI X800XL Oc'ed 450/580
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2. November 2006 @ 12:31 |
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BigCharb,
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I'm selling it to my bro for 900 dollars!
God, I'd hate to see what you would charge for it if he wasn't your Bro! LMAO
Happy Computering,
theone
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BigCharb
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2. November 2006 @ 16:08 |
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SUP, yeah...my bro wants my comp so badly that he offered to buy it for 900, so i said yeah. i personally was going to pass it on for free but he made an offer that i couldn't refuse. pluse the comp hes using now is my old overclocked Pentium 2, so to him my comp is a SUPER COMPUTER,lol. l8er
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Corsair Dualchannel 6400-DDR2 XMS
Intel Core2Duo E6600 O'ed 3.8
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ATI X800XL Oc'ed 450/580
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2. November 2006 @ 22:31 |
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Cool, what's next then?
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crowy
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2. November 2006 @ 23:22 |
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sam,
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Cool, what's next then?
What's next,is BigCharb will become a very successful car salesman and go on to make millions!!!!!!
The weather here is picture perfect.At 5pm,(20 mins ago) it was 26.6 degrees celsius the humidity is @ 28% and the wind speed is 5-8 knots.
Going out the back to cook a barbie soon,so will throw on an extra few snaggers and some extra marinated beef for anyone that wants to come on over.Tonight is going to be a good night!!!!
Sorry for the off topic BS... but I'm in a good mood as per the gifs!!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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