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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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11. August 2008 @ 09:25 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
well i guess i spoke to soon my memory is not running stable at 1066MHz, machine is rebooting.
back to the bios i go !
the memory is rated at 2.1v . so i don't want it any higher than 2.1v in hardware montior right?
I don't think there is anything wrong with your memory. you didn't have any problems until you tried to OC so that tells me you probably were trying to OC the memory too high (you forgot to back the memory down as you increased the FSB) or you need to raise the vcore a little more. BTW: that memory will run fine at 2.2v but like I told you in the pm, higher voltage = more heat so try to run them as low of voltage as possible
there is also a bug with 0403 bios (which you have) with loadline calibration enaqbled or on auto. I would disable LLC with 0403 bios.
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11. August 2008 @ 13:05 |
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does no one know that the 2.66 nehalem uses only dual channel DDR3?
atm, its only the extreme edition that does atm
just ordered geil black dragon 2x2GB 5-5-5-15 PC8500 for £75 and a gainward HD4850 for £105 with GRID for free.
should go nice with the new definitely VA DGM panel form OcUK, as for some reason, although ebuyer advertise a VA, they sell TNs, which are vastly crapper than VA, so for £35 more, i can gurranty VA. :)
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11. August 2008 @ 13:14 |
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11. August 2008 @ 14:41 |
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thanks guys i will try raising the CPU voltage also along with the DRAM voltage. and disabling the LLC.
and see if that works
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11. August 2008 @ 16:07 |
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Does anyone know if there is a significant performance drop from the Samsung Spinpoint 1T drive and the 750GB one? I was planning on buying buying several drives to store a lot of data, and I've heard that the 1T ones use only three platters and have very nice read/write speeds. They are expensive though, coming in at $170 each. Rather than go with two of those, I was windering if there is a performance decrease going to 2x 750 or 3x 750? By the way, striping them is not really an option I want to go with. It is too much of a bother and I don't like the fear factor of it.
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11. August 2008 @ 16:11 |
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Very wise.
I own a 750GB F1 and it is every bit as fast as benchmarks suggest the 1TB drive is, by the looks of it they perform the same.
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11. August 2008 @ 16:16 |
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Great, thanks for the fast reply. I'll see whether to go with 2x 750GB + some extra drive or 3x 750 GB.
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11. August 2008 @ 16:19 |
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Sounds like a plan. Just be advised Samsung drives do vibrate more than others, if you're going to put three of them together, I hope you have a well-built case, or it's going to get a bit noisy in there! :P
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11. August 2008 @ 16:48 |
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Re Skulltrail and dual graphics:
Originally posted by Zardon, from DriverHeaven:
Well im not under NDA with Skulltrail, but yes unfortunately I can confirm that SLI does not work with 280's. Which is a real shame as I have three sitting here at the minute (XFX XXX editions). It neither works in 2x or 3x with the Skulltrail motherboard (and I have access to beta drivers from Nvidia to support slix3 on skulltrail). I managed to get two of them booting but stability was incredibly low.
At least the 4870X2's work great.
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11. August 2008 @ 17:18 |
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cincyrob,
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your saying the AMD is faster than your E6750 running DVDRB/CCE?
it takes you longer than a hour with the C2D???? WOW, useing 3 passes(is what i have been oding here lately) it only takes me 62 mins.
I never said that!
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The AMD's are faster in certain internal functions. I/O stands for Input/Output! It does certain functions in less clock cycles. It was these very things, along with the On-Chip memory controller that made the AMD's faster before the C2D came along. They can't crunch numbers as fast as the C2D can, but it is quicker internally, doing certain things. An average DVDRB/CCE 2 pass is just under 45 minutes on my E6750, 58 minutes on the AMD! I've tried 3 pass, and I agree 100% with the Author JDobbs, in that the additional pass isn't worth the extra time needed! The effective FSB is 1800 to 2000MHz, depending on the CPU, which contributes greatly to the overall performance! Considering the difference in processor speed, it's a pretty remarkable machine to me!
sammorris,
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While I'd agree about AMDs not being bad CPUs, they're not faster than Core 2 Duos. I've owned a 4200+ (and at a time had it overclocked to be as fast as a 4600) and compared to that my overclocked E4300 is much faster at doing everything. Bone stock they were kind of equal, but running at 3.15Ghz, the Intel is the chip I'd much sooner have in all environments.
I never even implied that the AMD was faster (4800+ BTW), but I am saying that many internal functions are quicker because they take less clock cycles to execute on the AMD! Something Intel is refining to the max with the Corei7. I often use both computers, and the difference in overall speed is much less than the numbers would indicate, especially considering the more than 1.1GHz difference in processor speed. Both are reasonably modern technology, with the AMD being slightly newer at less than a year old. When I switch from one machine to the other, you're not sitting there grumbling about the speed like I did with the D-940. Considering the AMD runs at 2.4GHz and the C2D at 3.55GHz, and given the real world performance of the 4800+ is far better than the numbers would indicate, I'm glad I bought it!
Best Regards,
Russ
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11. August 2008 @ 17:39 |
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i went and reread that post russ...if ya just read it fast like i do at times. it seem'd as if you ment that it was faster than your E6750...yes it had me scratching my head big time..lol
thats why i asked that. cause i really wanted to know if i wasnt seeing things..lol
its getting rough around here with the lack of work/no OT. so some luxuraies might be going south for a while.internet/cable small stuff ect... so my posting might be limited for a while.. i have this here at work but damn near everything is blocked...
sorry to go off topic there fellas
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11. August 2008 @ 18:10 |
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cincyrob..Give up a meal a day, not the internet
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11. August 2008 @ 19:12 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
cincyrob..Give up a meal a day, not the internet
MY GOSH I'm glad I saw the cincyrob in front of that post. LOL. I would NOT give up one meal a day!!! NO WAY Mr.!!!! :P
I'm curious to see what AMD does next for the Nahelam... hmmmmmm.... They're stuff is gonna plummet just like the present LGA 775 socket from Intel. ;)
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11. August 2008 @ 19:18 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
cincyrob..Give up a meal a day, not the internet
lol honestly i only eat once a day. i work second shif and i eat about 7:00pm. i dont eat breakfast. period. and only once in a while i eat lunch..lol
but when i do eat look out...lol no comment GM
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11. August 2008 @ 19:21 |
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lol
You know it's better for you to eat three times a day. Even if you eat the exact same amount you do now, it's better to spread t across tree meals.
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11. August 2008 @ 19:22 |
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You're exactly right about the difference though Russ, and it looks like i7 is Intel taking a leaf out of AMD's book which is interesting, but either way, fact remains, the Intel on the broad side of things is the faster chip to own still.
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11. August 2008 @ 19:55 |
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cincyrob,
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but when i do eat look out...lol no comment GM
When I eat, I eat like a guy weighing 300 Lbs. I weigh 145! LOL!!
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I'm curious to see what AMD does next for the Nahelam... hmmmmmm.... They're stuff is gonna plummet just like the present LGA 775 socket from Intel. ;)
I don't think so, as the AMDs are what they are, inexpensive decent performers! I think Intel will wind up hurting themselves more, or risk surrendering the middle ground to AMD, given the present prices if they drop the lesser processors.
They will have to continue with the C2D qnd the Core2 Quads, or lose that market to AMD, unless they can sell enough Core i7s. The average non-enthusiast won't be buying them, but they'll go for something cheaper! It's a catch 22 as the additional cost of a new MB, memory and CPU cooler won't be worth it to them! Only a small segment of the end users out there are going to spend that much money! Given the plummeting economy, Intel may well have shot themselves in the foot! Again! LOL!! People will upgrade what they have first before springing for so many extra bucks! It's going to be a very good time for those that want to upgrade what they have! Whatever intel does, it's the enthusiast's like us, that will benefit the most! Even the server market is going to suffer!
I've said it before, how fast is fast? People won't give a rat's a$$ about how much faster the Core i7 is! All they'll look at is how much more it will cost! They'll be looking at replacing that crappy Celeron in their 775 MB with a C2D or Quad, which should be a very cheap upgrade!
Best Regards,
Russ
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11. August 2008 @ 20:18 |
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RedRob boozer is right. :P
Russ I may be a few months late in my statement. lol. They've already gone DOWN quite a bit. ;) I think this is the CPU that I was looking at about a year ago when I came across the Q6600 "deal" ;). IIRC it was something around $300 at the time. I think AMD stuff is good and I used them on my first 2 builds and therefore on a few "re-builds". lol. :P btw I did use AMD on my office build and could have gone any number of ways. It was cheap and a friend helped me as well. ;) btw that mobo way outshines the cpu, NO offense but I think you would like it too Russ!!! :)
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11. August 2008 @ 21:21 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
lol
You know it's better for you to eat three times a day. Even if you eat the exact same amount you do now, it's better to spread t across tree meals.
yea i know your right. and being border line diabetic, and been to a couple classes about diabetic's i know the proper routine..lol
no offence ment here.. but its allways a skiny dude telling the fat dudes how to eat...lol hell we know how to eat, how do ya think we got to be 300lbs?
sorry for the off topic.. its just funny thats all.. nothing bad ment by that boozer.. i know what ya mean.. ;)
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11. August 2008 @ 21:31 |
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lol Who says I am skinny? I was about 200 lbs when I was 15. I exercised, lifted weights, and ate healthier. I'm at 160 now!
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11. August 2008 @ 22:35 |
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Originally posted by RedRob:
no offence ment here.. but its allways a skiny dude telling the fat dudes how to eat...lol hell we know how to eat, how do ya think we got to be 300lbs?
I'm crying here!!! I can't stop laughing!!! heheehe. :P
boozer NO offense from either party. lol. I weigh over twice what you do and that seems skinny to me. lol. It's all relative on how you look at it. lol. A runway model would think you're FAT... hehehe... :P
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NOw what were we talking about?? :)
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11. August 2008 @ 22:38 |
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greensman,
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NOw what were we talking about?? :)
Nuts and bolts, Nut!
LOL!!
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11. August 2008 @ 22:48 |
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No I mean being 200 at 15 is kinda fat.
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11. August 2008 @ 23:37 |
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Man I'm installing Rainbow Six Vegas 2 right now and my PC is using 3.95 GB of RAM. I don't even know what the hell it's using it on. Looks like more of Vista's prefetching, but my PC running kinda slow right now.
NVM, it got much speedier after I stopped watching the Daily Show. I guess installing games really takes it out of a computer while watching Videos and browsing the Web?
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12. August 2008 @ 04:17 |
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thanks for the help Mort and Russ
I set the FSB Freq. at 425 which set the memory at a perfect 1066MHz DRAM running at 2.2v , vcore at 1.3v
and i seem to be stable at a OC of 3.4GHz temps are
CPU 35C
mobo 32C
this baby flys now!!!!
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