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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.
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jdobbs
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5. February 2005 @ 05:15 |
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@Fullasoul
Please post your REBUILDER.INI file.
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Fullasoul
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5. February 2005 @ 05:34 |
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[Audio]
Selected=10110
[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=0
ReduceOpt=1
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
Skin=Windows Standard
CCE=1
[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB\ReJig\ReJig.exe
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
ProCoder=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB\EclPro\EclPro.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll
Working=D:\dvdrb
Output=D:\dvdrb
CCENew=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctsp.exe
Source=C:\JAMI_NTSC_USA\VIDEO_TS\
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=9
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HKT3020
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5. February 2005 @ 05:40 |
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Whoa! Those are way too many passes, should you get it to work you don't want it to end up taking 8-9 hours. Fullasoul, if you want PM me...I think I have a solution. ;-)
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Fullasoul
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5. February 2005 @ 05:45 |
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well...the passes are obviously not to do with the problem....I work with video for a living, and whether you choose to believe it or not, I can see a clear difference between 3-pass and 9-pass....more so on material that's not yet been compressed, but still even on already-compressed material (which is what we're dealing with here)....
Fullasoul
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jdobbs
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5. February 2005 @ 06:02 |
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Try setting ReduceOpt=0 and see what impact that has.
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Fullasoul
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5. February 2005 @ 06:24 |
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@jdobbs
just finished Phase I....same type of results with the setting changed to 0:
High/Low/Average: 1,174/863/622
Fullasoul
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jdobbs
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5. February 2005 @ 06:28 |
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Okay now post the [Status] section of the REBUILDER.INF file.
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Fullasoul
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5. February 2005 @ 07:04 |
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[Status]
mode=1
Original_Size=3712942
Excluded_Audio_Sub_Size=69158
VTS_02_SIZE=1477694
VTS_03_SIZE=184221
VTS_04_SIZE=150479
Progress=1
CCEType=1
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brobear
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5. February 2005 @ 15:48 |
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Fullasoul
That is one messed up and overdone configuration settings file. You can save your current configuration settings as a backup just in case. Copy the one I supply here into your configuration settings file to replace the one there. You said you had a trial of 2.70 SP. If so your setup didn't reflect it properly. I put in the paths you supplied. If you set your paths correctly, then this configuration should work. This will record a movie with only the English soundtrack and titles. Try it with these basic settings before trying to tweak the setup.
(Edited to read for SP Retail) This is for CCE SP. Recheck to make sure your Paths are correct. Do not enter the additional paths you currently have besides the ones I listed. If any additional paths are in the setup, delete them for now.
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctsp.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll
Source=C:\JAMI_NTSC_USA\VIDEO_TS\
Working=D:\dvdrb
Output=D:\dvdrb
[Options]
LoadPlugin=1
BackColor=14737632
RemoveDTS=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
CCE=1
OneClick=1
Skin=Simple Blue
Completed=1
Mode=1
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=3
OPV=0
[Audio]
Selected=11
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64026402
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5. February 2005 @ 16:30 |
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Fullasoul
It seems like you want to run before you walk.
If you stay basic on the setup the missing piece should be apparent. But it if your running low on patience then just use the installer. Then you can learn the as you go when making changes.
Donald
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64026402
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5. February 2005 @ 16:35 |
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I still think you should reinstall AVIsynth and DGdecode and verify the paths actually lead to the right place. It has to be close and simple at this point.
Donald
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Fullasoul
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5. February 2005 @ 18:04 |
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Funny how my config file has managed to be "messed up" and "overdone" when all I did was follow the guides, lol. In any case, I DO appreciate the ongoing assistance from you guys :)
BTW bear, I never said I had a trial of CCE SP...I have a full (paid) version...so how will that change the setup file you pasted here for me?
Fullasoul
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jdobbs
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5. February 2005 @ 18:33 |
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Set:
CCE=1
I'd also recommend you set:
Quality_prec=16
It is set on a virtual scale of 1-64 rather than 1-100 so it matches any version of CCE. It is converted between scales.
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AfterDawn Addict
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5. February 2005 @ 20:24 |
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Fullasoul
Things do get frustrating when they don't work but if these people can't help you, then you can't be helped. When I first got started using RB/CCE (versions 40 somthing I think) I used the guide for my setup and it worked like a charm. Now times moved on and after about 140 movies or more and I've yet to have a single problem.
It gets difficult sometimes to isolate a problem when it could be a software conflict/operating system problem, a setup problem, a hardware problem, and yes even a few bugs in RB. You just need to be patient and rational.
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Fullasoul
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6. February 2005 @ 05:30 |
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:(
Well i tried it with the setup file brobear posted for me....same results. I then tried it with the 2 changes jdobbs recommended....same thing. No matter what I do, the end result of the "prepare" phase is to tell me that it's preparing a 900mb-ish finished DVD with bitrates averaging between 700-800 :(
I'm NOT prepared to reinstall Avisynth as it is one of the cores of my work here, and for the amount of work I spent getting that setup exactly the way I needed it for work, there is clearly nothing "corrupt" about it. What programs are actually used during the "Prepare" process? Could it be the decoder dll I'm using?
I'm gonna go try point to a different decoder dll and see what that does....trying REALLY hard to not give up on this thing a second time....
Fullasoul
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Fullasoul
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6. February 2005 @ 06:50 |
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oh well...that didn't work either :(
Fullasoul
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64026402
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6. February 2005 @ 06:51 |
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You don't have to have a defective AVIsynth to have a problem with the setup.
Since you have modified the install process and do not wish to start from scratch and do not wish to use the installer it would be difficult for me to find an alternative way to fix you setup.
From scratch it is a few minutes to setup manually or with the installer. It will work if you don't change the install routine.
This would of course include removing AVIsynth and reinstalling with no changes or modifications for personal preferences.
Donald
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64026402
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6. February 2005 @ 07:09 |
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"BTW bear, I never said I had a trial of CCE SP...I have a full (paid) version..."
The path to CCESP in your post was to a trial version.
"CCENew=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctsp.exe"
Donald
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ozzy666
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6. February 2005 @ 07:14 |
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Hi all,
Since my orignal problem of the error 3# etc, which i finaly got around, I came up with the small dvd rebuild size problem. I haVe been reading the posters here and on other sites before I troubled anyone with my problem, and to ensure I had tried everything i could to solve it myselfe.
So fare, as suggested to others with the same problem, I have clean installed from scratch with my original setup of
CCE 2.69 Basic Retail,
AviSynth 2.5.5
DVD REBUILD V70
DGDecode.dll
Same result, I Changed the ini file with no change in the file size, it seemed to be ignored, with same result, I changed CCE to 2.50, and tried v2.7trial, 2.90sp trial, changed back to MPEG2Dec3dg.dll, just in case, and all combonations of the above.
So after trying everything that had been suggested with settings I decided to get the latest installer do it for me. V72b
I stayed with 2.50 as that was the only one I didnt get the error 3# from and installed from the insaller. Same result!
I deinstalled everything again, and tried the installer with 2.9 basic retail. Same result. The largest file I can get is 3.5gig, with only one sound track. This is my only problem, Which programe controlls the file size, changing it in rebuilder.ini does not increase the file size.
Tks
Ozzy
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Fullasoul
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6. February 2005 @ 07:17 |
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ahh THAT's why he said that....I have a paid 2.67 and a trial 2.7....tried it with both and I get the same results, regardless of the setting in the setup file.
I'm a bit confused at you telling me I've "altered" the install process. I've installed this thing both ways..first by using the guide, and then by using the Rockas installer. Results are the same each time...
Fullasoul
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jdobbs
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6. February 2005 @ 08:07 |
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You wouldn't by chance have any extraneous files in the source directory would you (other than just the DVD files)? DVD-RB looks at the total size of the source directory to see how much "unchanged" material it has to copy. But when it doesn't check to see what kind of files they are. Do a directory of the source and see how big it is. Make sure there aren't any left over files from a previous encode.
Just a possibility.
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Fullasoul
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6. February 2005 @ 08:33 |
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@jdobbs
nope...nothing extra in the source directory...
I'd really like to know which of these programs (CCE, Avisynth, etc) are even USED during this "Prepare" process. The LAST thing I wanna do is tinker with my Avisynth install, but it would be worth it for me to try and create a secondary Avisynth install somewhere if there's a chance that would make a difference....
Not looking good here...
Fullasoul
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Fullasoul
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6. February 2005 @ 08:44 |
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just noticed one other "oddity"...in case it's worth anything...
Looking at the output to the status box at the end of each of these "Prepare" phases...indeed the high/low/average bitrates always come up around what I've said already...yet a few lines prior to that is a line that says "Reduction Level For DVD-5", and in all cases, that shows 22.3%. Keeping in mind that my source is a little over 7gb, that actually sounds CORRECT. The percentage would certainly be MUCH higher if, whatever is reporting that data, believed that it needed to take that 7gb down to 810KB, which is what winds up being reported a few lines later...
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 22.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 622Kbs
- Space for Video : 810,020KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 1,174/863/622 Kbs
Dunno....just thought that might possibly help pinpoint where the problem is...
Fullasoul
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jdobbs
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6. February 2005 @ 09:01 |
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Okay, looking back at your posts... here's the problem:
The original disc is 7,604,105,216 bytes long.
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If you add up the total of the three VTSs to be encoded and the audio that is being excluded you come up with 3,711,782,912 bytes.
Which means there are 3,892,322,304 bytes unaccounted for -- that's why you are getting the low bitrate. DVD-RB believes there is a huge amount of data that can't be reencoded.
Is this a multiangled movie? If so, it probably is angled throughout -- but that would lead me to believe that it would only happen in this instance, while you are giving the impression it happens all the time.
Have you actually tried more than this disc?
Does this disc have multiple LPCM audio tracks?
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Fullasoul
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6. February 2005 @ 10:43 |
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@jdobbs
man, you are GOOD! I didn't even notice that it kept coming up with exactly HALF the original size in it's summation of the source. Indeed this IS a multiangle source (I haven't even watched it yet, so I honestly wasn't aware of that beforehand).
And yes, this is the only DVD I've been trying this out with for the last 2 days. As mentioned, I DID try using DVDRB when it first came out several months ago, and at that time, I had size-related issues as well which caused me to give up until just the other day. If not for the past experience (which was probably caused by a whole different issue that I never thoroughly troubleshot), I probably would have thought to try some different discs today/yesterday.
I'm working with another disc now....a TV-show DVD actually. They pack these suckers, so I figure this would give me a good idea of the worst-case scenario in terms of the quality (due to the amount of needed reduction). Phase I just finished, and my HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE reads: 3,907/100/2,184.
For a DVD packed up this much, that looks right to me...and the status bar has already made it clear that it's looking to give me nearly 4gb of video this time, not 900KB. It appears this mystery has been solved :)
Thank you very much for your help guys...especially you jdobbs. I will come back shortly to (hopefully) report a completed success!
Fullasoul
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