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arossetti
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9. May 2006 @ 14:58 |
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The I/O Magic I got this week from Staples is indeed a 1670.
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10. May 2006 @ 23:18 |
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very good results with new BCHC firmware on the Benq 1650 (yes, i admit the jitter and PIE is a bit high, but the playback was FLAWLESS when i watched in on my plasma~ :) )
just wanted to keep this thread my buddy catfreak started alive and kickin' :)
my settings are the same as before, burned @8x (max) WOPC enabled, Overspeed off, Solidburn ON, on my favorite 8x DVD+R Taiyo Yuden YUDEN000T02~ :) booktyped naturally~
as i mentioned before, i have confidence in this new firmware, DESPITE all the issues and negative responses people have been having using it~ :P ON MY SYSTEM, BCHC is just as good as BCFC i was using before and i think it will remain consistent FOR ME~ after the first few 95/97 scores, CONSISTENT 99 quality scores for me last dozen burns or so...
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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11. May 2006 @ 10:43 |
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Here's a scan of the very first burn with my new 1655. I'm not up to speed on the significance of the different numbers. I'm guessing that PI errors are a fact of life, PI Failures aren't good but aren't the end of the world and that PO Failures are a very bad thing. Is this correct?
Burn speed was 8X.
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11. May 2006 @ 10:45 |
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11. May 2006 @ 10:46 |
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Thank you sir. I managed to miss the link to cdfreaks the first time I looked at it :P
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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11. May 2006 @ 12:20 |
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That looks pretty darn good neph. I avg about 95-97 on my ty-g02/Yuden000-T02 and MCC-004.
You try the lightscribing yet?
HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!! This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. May 2006 @ 12:21
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11. May 2006 @ 12:33 |
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Thanks, I thought the scan looked pretty decent compared to many others. I'm messing with the LightScribe label maker right now. I bought a ten pack of LS CD's to fart around with and get the hang of making the labels :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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11. May 2006 @ 14:10 |
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It's a nice option,but getting 100 Ty-G02 shiny inkjet printables-They blow my lightscribe covers away.
My dad's HP640c seems to have a better picture quality than my HP640c.I'm very disappointed with mine.Too many crc errors,very low compatability,and even coastered out a couple Maxell-002-00 full hub printables.I don't do any more backups on that drive,strictly benq burning only.
HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!!
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11. May 2006 @ 15:01 |
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For DVDs I'm sticking to my TY's and black sharpie although I can see getting more LS CD's for the compiliations I burn to carry in my truck. I just made a test label and it looks great. Now I can have a listing of all the songs and artists on the disc that fits and is actually readable :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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11. May 2006 @ 20:30 |
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@neph
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For DVDs I'm sticking to my TY's and black sharpie
even to this day, i STILL adhere to your statement down to the T :)
where is that truckload of TYs i was promised last year? j/k~ :P (btw, sold my NSX awhile back AND sold my Mercedes too) LOL
sorry to be slightly off topic, i'll get back to burning some more TYs and getting my 99 scores consistently, btw, your scan on your first burn Neph is very good, your PI Errors are MUCH lower than mine, it's the PI Failures i tend to worry about on my scans, that's just me~ :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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paiger651
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13. May 2006 @ 18:48 |
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Another 8X burn with 1640.
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14. May 2006 @ 00:38 |
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I haven't seen any Dual Layer scans. Here's my first using Verbatim +2.4x/burned at that 2.4x using Dvd decrypter's Mode ISO read and IMGBurn for the burning. Nothing spectacular compared to single layer scans:
HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!!
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14. May 2006 @ 00:43 |
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DL is still a relatively immature technology so I imagine a scan like that isn't too out of sorts.
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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14. May 2006 @ 08:43 |
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I just got rid of Nero6.0.0.21b off my backup Athlon 3000+ pc and replaced it with OEM Nero6.6.0.14. I have full use of the Nero speed test's disc quality scan with this version.
Here's a scan of +16x MCC-004 verbatim,burned at 12x on my original Benq-1620 which was bought under the brand name of I/O Magic-but not a rebadge:
This drive has burned over 3500+ backups-not too shabby.And just like my Benq 1640, The 12x burning produces a heck of a lot less errors than 4x burning using MCC-004 media. Those MCC-004 love to be burned fast!
HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!!
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zebadee
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14. May 2006 @ 10:53 |
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Hi,
Just throwing in this scan, Taiyo Yuden TYG02 8x. Burnt @16x using CloneDVD2. SB/WOPC/OS all enabled. 3rd burn so SB still learning & maybe better results still to come.
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zebadee
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15. May 2006 @ 14:54 |
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Hi,
1650, this time. MCC 004 @16x using CloneDVD2 SB/OS/WOPC all enabled.Time taken 6.21.
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15. May 2006 @ 17:27 |
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What am I doing wrong? I have tried firmwares BCFC and BCHC and I can't get MCC04s to burn past 4X on my 1650. I can get Yuden000 T02 to burn at any speed up to 16X. I've tried Nero, CloneDVD, Imageburn and still no joy on the MCC04 past 4x. I've tried 2 different Verbatim spindles of disks bought at different times, different places.
I'm using QSuite 2.1 and I have tried all the different setting including the one Zebedee used in tread above that he burned at 16X.
I'm ready to pull my hair out...
Any suggestions...
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paiger651
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15. May 2006 @ 19:02 |
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Zebadee that is a great looking scan burned at 16X.Looks better than mine at 8X.
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zebadee
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15. May 2006 @ 20:23 |
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Hi,
@LABOY.
Sometimes for some unknown reason SB appears to be either sleeping or overtly fierce. Sometimes flash hasn't taken properly, maybe some background pc activity was/is going on at same time. You could try flashing in safe mode. Flash back to the earliest f/w available, then reflash to desired f/w. Do this in safe mode (not essential, but maybe worthwhile if experiencing problems).
Not recommending this, but I've have in the past when not having the results I expected, crossflashed (in the case of 1650/1655 to Philips 1660/1668)then back again. This can have the effect of 'waking up' the drive. (Remember this will void warranty).
@paiger651.
I don't know if you've tried higher speeds, but I've found it to be better to write @ 12x or @ 16x with 16x media. Particularly with some of the latest drives with the latest f/w. With my BenQ 1650/1655s this is especially true. Remember that SB takes a while to really show the best.(2 to 5 discs is typical, 10 or more to have truly settled down). Also as drives age they seem to 'bed in'. A bit like running in a car. It could be my drives get more use use, so this happens earlier.
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16. May 2006 @ 02:56 |
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@Zebadee
thanks for your quick reply. Since I posted my thread above, I switched from QSuite 2.1 to 2.0 (just trying all options)and still no luck with my MCC04s. I will try your suggestion of loading in safe mode. BTW Qscan will only rate these disks as safe up to 8x even though they will burn only to 4x.
I am beginning to believe I have 2 bad spindles of Verbatims howbeit one is a 100 disk spindle and the other a 50. I've experienced 3-4 write errors (burn failures)about 97% in the burn. I'll keep trying cause too many disks to throw away, since the 4x burns do turn up a minimum of 95% on quality scans.
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zebadee
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16. May 2006 @ 08:48 |
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Hi,
LABOY, there has been a lot of poor quality with MCC 004 lately. Hence my trying TY. The sources available to me mean that TY is virtually double the cost of MCC 03RG20/MCC 004.
For you, remember that QScan is trying to assess discs ability without the use of SB & WOPC. In your case with SB & OS enabled I'd still be looking for writing to be achieved @ 12x at least.
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16. May 2006 @ 13:02 |
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I'm still only getting a 92 to 95% using the BCHC firmware on the P16's. They play great, but will they last. I will not be purchasing the OD 16x media again. Much better luck and burns with the Ritek R-03 in OD 8x.
I have about 96 MCC-04's on hand that I will use after the P16's are gone. About 20 to go.
After they are gone, I'm gonna be a TY man!
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zebadee
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16. May 2006 @ 13:45 |
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Hi,
@9mmrugger1.
When using CD/DVDSpeeds' disc quality anything over 90% is very good & over 95% excellent. As to life span before unplayable. PIE is usually a good indicator. The higher the PIE the more likely that this disc will have a shortened life. Of course different dyes are affected differently. With important backups it may be worthwhile doing more than one. Use different media too. Scan on a regular basis. This should enable you to see any signs of ageing & the ability to replace before its too late.
Don't forget that storage has a part to play in this as well.
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16. May 2006 @ 16:40 |
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@zebadee
I tried your suggestion about flashing in safe mode, but it still didn't resolve my slow burns for MCCO4s. Many of my burns are failing with "write error" "bad or faulty media" warnings. I guess Solid Burn and WOPC recognize the faulty media and slow the burn speed down.
It irks me that I have 2 spindles (150 disks)of Verbatim Advanced AZO disks bad or faulty. Unfortunately I don't have the receipts for them or I would take them back. I think I will think twice before I buy anymore Verbatim. I'll stick with TY if I can find them.
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FartDude
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17. May 2006 @ 22:33 |
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heh, i think i should have gotten a benq a long time ago lol.
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