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22. February 2010 @ 16:36 |
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Omega: 1600 isn't slow :P
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22. February 2010 @ 16:39 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: 1600 isn't slow :P
NO! It's extremely obnoxious. Obnoxiously fast!
If I replace its fan, can I expect as good or better results? 1600 is reasonable, ONLY if its under heavy load LOL! But its not. It simply seems to only have 2 speeds. Slow(200Rpms), and Stupid fast (1600-1750).
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22. February 2010 @ 16:41 |
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The fan controller's operation will not change based on a new fan being installed. If the fan goes straight to full speed as soon as you load the CPU, the CPU temperature is too high, and you should either down the voltages, or if you want lower noise, use a quieter fan (which you're doing) and/or use a manual fan controller that's not so strict.
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22. February 2010 @ 16:48 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: 1600 isn't slow :P
NO! It's extremely obnoxious. Obnoxiously fast!
If I replace its fan, can I expect as good or better results? 1600 is reasonable, ONLY if its under heavy load LOL! But its not. It simply seems to only have 2 speeds. Slow(200Rpms), and Stupid fast (1600-1750).
Oman7,
I'll make you a deal. Buy the Scythe, and if it doesn't do the job I will buy it from you, full price. I was just going to order one to replace the rear fan and move the Silverstone to the lower front, but I'll wait to see how yours works first. I have a second 4 pin header on the MB that runs PWM, so it should work even better than the Silverstone with these low temps I have now. It's sure nice to have a quiet computer again! LOL!!
Russ
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6. March 2010 @ 07:42 |
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I've been in the process of learning what all the adjustments in the bios have to do with overclocking. One of the most interesting things I've learned is about the CPU NorthBridge VID voltage. It controls the communication between the NB and the CPU. The NB voltage only controls communication between the motherboard and the Northbridge. If you raise the NB voltage without raising the NB frequency, all you are doing is creating more heat, and nothing else. Here's my current settings for my Athlon IIx4 630 Quad.
The CPU host clock Control is set to manual.
The CPU host Frequency is set to 250x14 for 3.5GHz.
The CPU Voltage is set to 1.424v (Max).
The CPU NB Frequency is using the 9x multiplier for 2250MHz.
I've raised the NB Voltage to 1.200v.
I've also set the Southbridge Voltage to 1.300v
The HT Link Frequency multiplier is set to 9x for 2250MHz.
I've set the HT Link Width manually to 16 Bit.
And the CPU NB VID voltage is set to 1.350v.
The CPU NB VID is the key to getting things stable, and allowing the NB to run stable at 2250MHz, which speeds up the Data flow between the NB and the CPU. It was creating a bottleneck between the faster CPU and the much slower NB (1500MHz slower), and generating CPU errors in the process. The end result seems to be slightly better benchmarks, and a nice fat memory bandwidth of 8000MB/s, and my lowest SuperPi 1M yet at 23.078 seconds. The main benefit is faster throughput for I/O and faster data speed, so internally, it runs noticeably faster! now if I could only get some decent information on the ACC, because AMD has been very closed-mouthed about how to use it, and there is much conflicting advice on the net about it's settings. I do know that when set right, you can up the NB and HT link frequencies as high as 2600MHz. I'm pretty sure that everyone "knows" that the NB frequency and the HT link should be set as close to 2000 as you can get, because that's what we've all been told! All I can say is that's just baloney. Before doing all this adjusting, you couldn't even get the computer to boot if you set the NB and HT link frequencies to 2250MHz on mine, and now it's running that speed, and so far is solid as a rock. The conservative view is 1.400v max, for the CPU NB VID Voltage. Mine seems to be running fine at 1.350v. No heat issues at all, and it's the best it's ever run. As I learn more, I'll post it here!
Stay Tuned,
Russ
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6. March 2010 @ 19:32 |
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Here's some benchmarks!
CPUZ
Memory Bandwidth
Processor Arithmetic
SuperPi 1M
Not at all bad for what it now a $100 CPU! As soon as I can sort a few things out, it should run even faster. I've got my Hyper Transports to 4500, and I'm shooting for 5000! This is my first overclock of a locked multiplier AMD CPU. I'm still learning! LOL!!
Stay Tuned,
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7. March 2010 @ 05:50 |
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Things just keep getting better and better. Here's a few changes for you. I fattened up the memory bandwidth right nice.
NB frequency and HT Link frequency set at 2500MHz which means the Hyper Transport speed is 5000MHz
New SuperPi now into the 22 second bracket
Things keep looking better and better! no real improvement in MIPS, but the speed things happen are unbelievable. It's just click-Bang and things open and close. I'm on the right track though
You paying attention Oman7? Class is now in session! ROFLMSOAO!!
Stay tuned,
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7. March 2010 @ 13:44 |
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Thanks for the Overclocking link Russ. Very informative :) I'm sure it'll come in handy, when I start playing again :D
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8. March 2010 @ 06:09 |
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8. March 2010 @ 06:14 |
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The 890GX is just another refresh really. Native S-ATA 3 support is good, but the integrated graphics are more powerful, yet still too weak to play any games, so they may as well have stuck with the old version.
The only thing the 890GX really adds of significance is upcoming 6-core CPU support. These will have to be competitively priced, however, since unlike with dual core vs quad core, inter-model performance can actually be sufficiently high to negate the extra number of cores.
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8. March 2010 @ 07:04 |
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Here's a hands-on review of the 890GX Gigabyte and Asus motherboards. The GigaByte board is $139.99, about $6 less than the Asus. Impressive for everything it has on board.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1236/1/
I would think that this would be a pretty good Media Center PC motherboard, although you can install a higher end video card or two. The SB850 southbridge provides SATA 6 Gb/s support, a definite boon for speedy transfer rates of about 500MB/s (I'm assuming SSD). That bandwidth is made possible by AMD's 2 GB/s Alink Express III interface, which alleviates performance bottlenecks between the northbridge and the southbridge. Sounds interesting, and it seems to perform well. Legit Reviews were able to overclock a Phenom IIx4 C3 stepping 965BE to 4.2GHz on it. For a $139.99 motherboard that does all the things this one does, it looks impressive!
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8. March 2010 @ 07:18 |
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8. March 2010 @ 07:18 |
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usb 3 and sata 6 for soo cheap russ!
superb board. loving these cheap amd board, deffinately pack a punch
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8. March 2010 @ 07:29 |
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I'm really liking this board
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8. March 2010 @ 07:30 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Quite a pricey board for a media center really. Very versatile, no doubt, but I imagine something like this would do the job perfectly well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...3128432
Sam,
You are probably right, it is a little high priced for that application. Sure looks like it would be a pretty good gamer though. A couple of fast SSDs, and a good video card or two, it ought to rock! No problems overclocking with the OBG turned off. When you turn it off, it's off! It's no longer part of the system! Looks like a 9 layer MB too!
Russ
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8. March 2010 @ 07:33 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
usb 3 and sata 6 for soo cheap russ!
superb board. loving these cheap amd board, deffinately pack a punch
Shaff,
I was impressed with the OC they did with the 965BE. The Bandwidth and data transfer rates are impressive!
Russ
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8. March 2010 @ 09:03 |
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Well, the bad news is I had to drop the NB and HT Link frequencies back to 2250MHz. I've been running everything I own and it finally crashed. It ran Orthos for over 8 hours with no problems. Oddly enough it crashed while installing Net Framework 3.5 to install Sandra 2009! LOL!! That's all right though. A 4500MHz Hyper Transport works just fine, and is still faster than 4000MHz. You win some and you lose some. I wasn't willing to up the CPU NB VID Voltage any farther than 1.375v, or the CPU past 1.424v and I didn't want to try and raise the NB voltage past 1.300v. The memory bandwidth is still over 8000MB/s so I'm happy! Heat us not an issue, but it might be if I raised the voltage.
Russ
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8. March 2010 @ 09:29 |
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It's funny you should say that, as the only thing that crashes on my overclock is Sandra, SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION I get as soon as I run a test. If it can play games for hours on end without incident I don't really care, and I haven't even touched any voltages yet.
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8. March 2010 @ 11:45 |
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Don't like those boards with only one PCI Express 2.0 x16
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8. March 2010 @ 11:46 |
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Why not? It's rare to require more than one...
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8. March 2010 @ 12:45 |
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Ahh, but the rare. I've run into it twice
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8. March 2010 @ 12:45 |
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Wow. Impressive! I almost wish I waited on the last Mobo purchase. Though I'm sure a bios upgrade will allow those six core Cpu's later. And if not, not a big deal. I can be happy for at least a year with my current build :)
They must have had that 4.2Ghz OC really cool to run at such a low voltage. But I don't know. I really haven't put much effort into Oc'ing my 965 c3 step. And now that my secondary is running, I'm seeing even more heat....
I can't win...
I really need a larger area for myself. THAT'S what I need to focus on. Good luck with that though eh. Finding another job is gonna be highly difficult. People are lucky to have one job right now. :(
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8. March 2010 @ 12:50 |
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Rick: I run into it a lot, but I'm not the average user. In an HTPC (the environment being mentioned), it's exceptionally rare, as you only really need 16x slots for RAID cards and graphics cards, the rest can go in 1x slots.
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8. March 2010 @ 15:22 |
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Rick,
Besides, you personally, would have no use for 2 16x PCI-E slots anyway. You're not a gamer. There's not that many motherboards with 2 16x slots. Usually there's 1 16x and 1 8x, or two where you can use either one at 16x. If you use two slots they both become 8x on some. Others have one full time 16x and 1 8x. It's a question of cost vs practicality. For your needs, with the 890GX motherboard, you wouldn't even need a video card! I mean, who wants to spend in excess of $200 for something they will never use or need? At $139.99, the 890GX GigaByte has all the important goodies most people would ever want or need. Sata 3 6GB, USB 3.0 and the ability to transfer data internally up to 500MB/s Bi-directionally. That bandwidth is made possible by AMD's 2 GB/s Alink Express III interface, which alleviates performance bottlenecks between the northbridge and the southbridge. The combined effective data transfer rate is 1000MB/s Only a very small percentage of people would ever need or want more, and I would question the need for anybody but a serious gamer like Sam and a few others here. I think Sam has 4 high end Video cards in his i5! All the vast majority of people would ever need, is 1 PCI-E x16 slot!
Best Regards,
Russ
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8. March 2010 @ 18:19 |
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Indeed and to be honest, the Quad crossfire setup doesn't really seem like it's being hampered that much by only 8+8 speed...
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