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30. March 2010 @ 04:30 |
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Well that's exactly the kind of discussion I joined this forum to have. I could give screw-all what the better product is. Computing is about the individual experience, not the the market price of a certain product or who has the best gear :)
My case in point: my actual experience with Intel has been nothing but bliss. I loved both of my Core 2 Duos and am currently quite happy with my OCd Q6600. I chose AMD due to my own foolish brand loyalty, because the 940 was really a side-grade for all intents and purposes. I just happen to like AMD in practical application better than Intel. There's way more room for tweaking and the OCing is more "satisfying" for me. But when I actually used an Intel chipset board after my 680i was such a disappointment, I found myself impressed with the stability and sheer number crunching that Intels can offer.
I've been accused of being an AMD fanboy... lol, okay, you just believe that ;P
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30. March 2010 @ 04:39 |
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I got no beefs with intel Quad core, although I bought mine a couple years back when AMD was having difficulties
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30. March 2010 @ 04:53 |
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Amd is the first to produce a TRUE quad core. Intel produced a quad that had 2 dual cores on one dye. Rather impressive if you ask me. Not really exploding here. Just illustrating a difference.
And now they're BOTH making 6 core/12 core processors :D Can't wait to play with those beasts!
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30. March 2010 @ 05:39 |
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I'm never too quick to get the newest tech. I'd rather wait until it becomes mainstream and I can make my purchase based on predictable results. Am I excited? Yes. Am I excited about the entire platform switch and large purchase needed? Not in the least. I'll be happy with this chip I think for a while.
When I see benefits that can be seen in my own situations, that's when I'll upgrade. As of currently I play pretty much everything maxed. And the stuff I don't play maxed has a video bottleneck, not CPU.
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30. March 2010 @ 12:11 |
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What's more interesting still than the fact that Intel's Quad was a 'copy paste' of their dual core, is that the Core 2 architecture was a regression to redeveloping the old Pentium 3 architecture, and not the flawed Netburst architecture of Pentium 4. This is why with outdated BIOSes, new Core 2 chips show up as Pentium 3s in Windows.
Jeff: I used to update when I felt it necessary, which used to mean I didn't upgrade that often. As I have been able to use more advanced stuff however, in particular the 2560x1600 resolution, I find myself upgrading very often to keep pace with the continuing climb of demand from PC games. The fact still stands though that my system's graphics cards and secondary hard disk are close to two years old.
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31. March 2010 @ 20:31 |
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hey Russ you realize Everest shows you every DLL file on your system as well, I for got to tell you that also along with the version
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31. March 2010 @ 20:48 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
hey Russ you realize Everest shows you every DLL file on your system as well, I for got to tell you that also along with the version
Hey Will,
yes I know that. It wouldn't let me delete them by Proxy, so I went to the folder in windows and it wouldn't let me delete them there either. I had to remove them with the Data Assassin in Malwarebytes. Can you say ZORCH! LOL!! There are very few files it can't remove, locked or unlocked!
Best Regards,
Russ
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1. April 2010 @ 08:43 |
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Can someone tell me what the difference is between the WD Black and the WD Blue
I'm in need of an IDE and the blue is the only one I can find
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1. April 2010 @ 08:45 |
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The Caviar Black is the highest performance version with extra cache and so on. The Blue is the standard drive, slightly slower. Since IDE slows drives down, you won't find the highest performance drive on it, thus you only get Blue IDEs, not Blacks too.
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1. April 2010 @ 15:59 |
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THANKS Sam
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1. April 2010 @ 21:02 |
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1. April 2010 @ 22:19 |
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shaffaaf : Why would U think IDE
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1. April 2010 @ 22:29 |
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2. April 2010 @ 11:35 |
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right as rain
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2. April 2010 @ 18:31 |
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Interestingly I am in need of an extra SATA drive ATM and only have a 160GB IDE laying around. Actually not bad though. Good enough for a lightweight HTPC.
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2. April 2010 @ 19:54 |
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Well Fellows .I maybe Goin to Water Cooling it seems to me these Amd 965BE C3 produce alot of Heat and it's hard to get a lower idle temp with the new Freezer 64 Pro, I just got from newegg it's not getting the job done as, I like it me and Omega have the same chip and he's having the same issue in hand. I've looked around and can't find anyone with lower idle temps, I'm running between 44c to 46c idle and 57c to 65c stressed and this joker is pumping out some heat, So if, I plan to keep this thing, I gotta cool it with some water if that don't work sell it board,cpu and memory,I did'nt think AMD was ment to run this high under idle temps,Intel runs way lower my Q9550 is at 3935ghz at it don't idle this high there a different for sure.
I think this has caught me eye to get and put in the 690 II case:)
http://www.tweaktown.com/pressrelease/14...oler/index.html
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2. April 2010 @ 20:37 |
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don't risk watercooling, just buy a proper heatsink like a TRUE or Tuniq.
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2. April 2010 @ 20:41 |
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My 940 runs 30-33 idle at 3.7 with 1.45v. Weren't latest stepping 965s were actually supposed to fix some heat issues? With a Tuniq and lapped btw.
Try a better cooler. The Freezer 64 Pro is a very good cooler but it's nowhere near the best cooling on air. Try a Tuniq Tower 120 or Thermalright Ultra 120. Both of those coolers demolish the Freezer 64 easily.
I've run the Tuniq 120 and the Freezer 64 in the same PC and the Tuniq was always much cooler. The Freezer may be fine for 95W chips, but 125W+ really should have a 120mm Tower Cooler to OC.
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2. April 2010 @ 20:45 |
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Agreed. 92mm coolers are fine for 95W chips, but 125W CPUs like Phenoms need proper tower coolers if you overclock them.
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2. April 2010 @ 20:55 |
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LOL speaking of wattage I just realized something funny. When I get the 5850s my main rig will use way less power XD
Gonna run Crossfire in both rings for a while but I think the 4870s are gonna be gone before too long. Two sets of high end cards Crossfired = lots of heat and power usage.
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2. April 2010 @ 21:04 |
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Not really, HD5850s don't use much less power than 4870s at load. You will, however, save an astronomical amount on idle power.
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2. April 2010 @ 21:05 |
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Exactly what I mean. My PC is idle much more often than it is gaming. Also because of the slightly lower load wattage and way lower idle wattage, I'm hoping the cards run cooler as well XD
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2. April 2010 @ 21:18 |
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You Guys if you did'nt realize, I have the Freezer 64 and the Artic Pro 7 Rev.2 tryed both matter a fact Russ Recommend the Freezer 64 pro and it isn't getting the Job Done so . I decided to buy a Corsair Hydro Series H50 instead later in the week No more Air Coolers for the Amd Rig by next friday and there issues with the 965be C3 chips that need to be addressed badly:(
This video for you Sam wait until the last of it.lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQxw9Sx1-Uk&feature=related
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2. April 2010 @ 21:53 |
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Indeed, but we said buy a tower cooler instead of watercooling, apart from being better value because it's also less risky :P
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2. April 2010 @ 23:45 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Agreed. 92mm coolers are fine for 95W chips, but 125W CPUs like Phenoms need proper tower coolers if you overclock them.
Sam,
I'm sorry, but I somewhat disagree, I ran a 130w D-940, 27% overclocked for a good while using a Freezer 7 Pro, and once I got the case airflow straightened out, heat was not an issue. If you remember I was idling in the high 20s, and seeing mid 50s under load with that computer. In fact someone at DVD hounds questioned my temps, and I ran a series of tests they asked for, and posted the results to prove them. In fact I ran the tests twice, back to back because I forgot to include one of the temperature programs they requested.
Orthos is the only thing that runs my current CPU over 50C, and even then just barely at 51C. The highest the temps get encoding with DVDRB/CCE is 44C, and it's got to be over 80F in here, for the temps to get that high. Typical is 41-43C. The Freezer 64 and Freezer 7 are capable of handling up to 160w, but are more dependent than a Tuniq 120 or TRUE, on efficient case airflow to run cool. I don't think I will have any problems cooling when I graduate to a 955BE, using the Freezer 64 Pro, as I know I've done a good job insuring that the heat removed from the CPU, makes it efficiently out of the case. Even if the Freezer 64 proves to be inadequate, I'll still need far less than a proper tower cooler to do the job.
Best Regards,
Russ
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