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Scan10
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13. July 2008 @ 20:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe previous posters mention that the drive should be a 5400 RPM unit - that the 7200's may draw too much current and cause power supply problems.
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doughnut7
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15. July 2008 @ 01:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thought I'd add my experience in case anyone is keeping score.

Some time ago I had the classic symptoms of the C1270/C1271 problem (I don't remember, but I think that's the "Please wait.." problem; whatever it was, I remember thinking at the time "That's it exactly!"; even the periodic dimming of the display). That was maybe 6-9 months ago. I followed the excellent instructions provided here by yankee10 and others around p. 64 and the unit has been fine ever since.

Well, until last week. The unit was completely dead - the front panel wouldn't even light up, and there was just a slight, periodic flash on the TV screen. And the Olympics are just a couple of weeks away!

I came back here and found gymmy's post on p. 72, opened the unit up again and, sure enough, now caps C1260 and C1261 were blown. My contribution to this august body is that cap C1413 (6.3V 1500 uF) was also blown - no questioning it. I don't know whether C1413 was a factor or if it was only C1260/1 that did me in, but the E85 is back up and running again after replacing all 3.

At this point, I suppose I should just replace every electrolytic on the entire power supply board, but my soldering is dicey enough that I'd be tempting fate.

Thanks to all... It's now no longer a matter of money but the fact that you can't get anything like this unit any more.
rosey8810
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6. August 2008 @ 15:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Everyone:

I've been reading through most of the 2007-08 thread entries, interesting stuff. I am a newbie to this thread with a 4+ y-o machine. It's been solid and steady for me until oddities have hit in the last 6-9 months.

Here's a list of current issues

1) First to go was the ability to burn straight from HDD to DVD on some content. After a firmware upgrade (burned onto the CD and installed) and frequent resets, it seemed to do the trick.

2) Next was the ability to finalize any DVD-R. I can still record straight to DVD-R and play content (burned or bought), but finalizing is now out.

The latest in the last month are HDD issues.

3) When recording content, at the end of recording, it would stop, go into self check, come back up and say there was an error. Originally the show would appear and be watchable, but now it doesn't even show anymore. This is a continual loop now. (I have been recording to DVD and watching on the unit the last few weeks, works fine, but not a great solution.)

4) Next was the inability to delete content from the HDD. It would go into self check, say there's an error, start it over and it acts like nothing happened.

5) Now it says I need to format the hard drive. I attempt to do so and it gives me an error, and to try again, and it goes tries again, goes into self check mode comes back up and says there was an error -- and the viscious circle continues.

Which has taken me to here.

Any ideas guys? I have never had a U99 issue, but am at a loss for a solution at this point.

Thanks!
Rosey
vulcanusa
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6. August 2008 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rosey,

There is a heck of a lot of great info on this thread prior to 2007. Like this for instance:

* To initialize ALL parameters to factory defaults:
With the unit OFF, press "Skip Rev" ( |<< ) and "Time Slip"
and "Open/Close" for 5 seconds.

Those instructions are referring to the buttons on the unit itself, NOT THE REMOTE CONTROL. I would disconnect the antenna from the RF input of your unit before you perform the factory reset. This way, you know that the unit won't receive any TV Guide data until you're ready for it to do so. I'm presuming here you actually have the unit hooked up to an RF source from an over-the-air antenna or a cable box.

Power on the unit. If it gets to the initial configuration screen, enter the configuration stuff like you did before, but keep the antenna input disconnected.

It's possible the unit will permit you to reformat the hard drive at this point. If you have no highly desirable "must see" programs recorded, perhaps that is a good idea in your case. Give it a try. If it works, then you're probably on the right track. If it doesn't work, try the reset again. However, power off the unit using the power button on the unit itself. Press and hold it for at least 10 seconds. Unplug the unit for at least 30 seconds. If you still can't reformat the drive, then you probably have a hardware problem.

A lot of problems apparently begin when a provider changes the way they broadcast the electronic TV guide. To most who have posted on this thread, the TV Guide feature is indispensable. They choose to live with the uncertainty the TV guide downloads (Ads & Program listings) will screw up their machine at some point. That's their choice, of course, for the convenience of a TV Guide that might make their life easier for a year or more before they are plunged once again into TV Guide hell. I always have the TV Guide download disabled and it eliminates one heck of a lot of potential problems. That's what I recommend until you observe your problems have ceased following the reset/reformat - that is - presuming you don't have a hardware issue. If you choose to disable the TV Guide download, after formatting, see page 43 of the manual. If you don't have the manual:

Press Setup button on the remote;
Press up or down arrow to select Channel on the left menu;
Press >;
Select up or down arrow to select Auto Channel Setting on the right menu;
Press Enter;
Press < or > to select Yes;
Press Enter;

Before you press Enter again, reconnect the antenna input.

Press Enter;

The channels are scanned and then you may perform an auto clock setting.

At this point the TV Guide download is disabled. You may then set up timer programs manually by using the remote's Prog/Check button. If the unit is ever returned back to factory defaults, you'll have to run through the procedure again to disable the TV Guide download.
cal401
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6. August 2008 @ 18:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Rosey,

The first thing to try is the power off and un-plug for 30 seconds that vulcan described. You need to do that from time to time and it may get you back in business without having to reformat.

Cal

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vulcanusa
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6. August 2008 @ 19:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rosey,

I just want to be sure you understand to perform the "return to factory defaults", you must simultaneously press and hold all the buttons on the unit I indicated for 5 seconds. Not one button at a time.

* To initialize ALL parameters to factory defaults:
With the unit OFF, simultaneously press and hold these buttons on the unit for 5 seconds:

"Skip Rev" ( |<< ),
"Time Slip",
"Open/Close"
rosey8810
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7. August 2008 @ 09:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cal and Vulcan,

Thanks so much for the info! I have pulled the plug on the thing overnight before and plugged in and powered it up the next day in hopes of it righting itself. It used to work but then these issues just started getting worse.

I have never tried restoring factory defaults in that manner. I will definitely try that when I get home tonight and see how that goes and will let you guys know.

If that works, I can live without the guide, though it is pretty helpful. Basically, I am just looking for a way to extend the life of this thing for a couple more years.
pulltech1
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7. August 2008 @ 18:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My E85 seems to have bitten the dust. I went to Sam's last weekend and bought the Philips equivalent for $260 or so. It has the HDD and a DVD RW but no TV Guide. I wonder if anyone wants this old machine with new caps. I wonder if I replaced the HDD with a similar 120 GB if that would help. At this point I think its a lost cause.

Bud
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7. August 2008 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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My E85 seems to have bitten the dust. I went to Sam's last weekend and bought the Philips equivalent
let us know how you like the philips machine (with a new thread) - does it have built-in digital channels?
Kassel
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8. August 2008 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would be int'd in that disabled e85, unless someone else particularly needs it now. My machine still works. I would miss the tv guide since I use it for all recording. I'm curious about whether the phillips comes with free TIVO, it sounds to me like there is no onboard TIVO type system?

I am in CA. KingKassel@aol.com

kingkassel@aol.com
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8. August 2008 @ 12:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I started looking at "Replay TV" units. Does anyone have any experience with them?

Suburban Maryland - 20723
DMR-E500HS (mfg 8/2004)
Comcast Digital
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8. August 2008 @ 12:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also, TVGOS support says that TVG/Crystal is working on a solution for the digital conversion, but no details yet.

Suburban Maryland - 20723
DMR-E500HS (mfg 8/2004)
Comcast Digital
rosey8810
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8. August 2008 @ 21:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Vulcan, Cal and all,

Ok, first off, thanks again to everyone for their input, really appreciate the help.

I did a full reset of the unit as you guys mentioned. It defintiely started the process. The first thing it did though is this text came up when booting up:

"TEST *L1"

It sat there until I held the power button to turn the machine off and then it started back up on its own. It then did the usual as if it came from the package, I did all the settings, then attempted to reformat the HDD again.

About 1/2-way through, it stopped, went into Self Check mode, started back up again and told me there was an error. Back to square one.

As you guys mentioned, I am guessing it is probably a hardware issue, right? If so, where do I possibly go from here?

I can still record from cable to DVD-R or DVD+-R but would rather find a way to get the HDD going again if possible.

Thanks again, have a good weekend all.

-Rosey
dcathome
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9. August 2008 @ 19:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just a thanks to the forum!
My E85 (20040324) would not turn on but I could get to the TV Guide. It would cycle through please wait and disk error. I tried all of the resets and ended up with "TEST *L1". I removed the hardrive and there were two 16v 680's and one 10v 680 leaking on top. I went to our local radio store and purchased 4 35v,680uf capacitors and replaced all 4. It took all of 10 minutes to replace them and another 10 minutes to power up the unit. It still showed "TEST *L1" so I turned it of and back on and it came up to the setup screen. After entering my zip I was back and all of my recordings were still there.
Thanks to all that posted!
Kassel
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10. August 2008 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dcat, nice to hear another success story from this site. You must be very happy. I know I was when my dead one came back to life! K

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Kassel
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10. August 2008 @ 19:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was wondering whether Rosey has tried to unplug and replug the hard drive yet to the main board? Also whether Rosey has tried to hijack the power supply from some other computer even for a minute or two, just to see if the HDD will come back to life when it gets its lifeblood from the powersupply of a next door computer. I think it made a big difference for my machine. I only needed to let it run off the computer once for a minute or two, and then when I reconnected it to its own original power supply, it seemed to take a hint to get off it's butt and get to work.

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11. August 2008 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Vulcanusa,

Thanks for the procedure to disable the TV Guide downloading. My set is connected to the Time Warner DVR by the S-Video cables and therefore needs to be configured to use the L3 connection, NOT the coax cable. The only way I have found to tell the unit to record through the S-Video cablels is by the TV Guide setup. When I disable the TV Guide, it will not view the channels through the S-Video. Any solution for this or am I doing something wrong? I'd like to use the TV Guide feature, but it died over a year ago.
Jim In ohio
rosey8810
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11. August 2008 @ 10:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Kassel, thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try. At this point I have nothing to lose.
pulltech1
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11. August 2008 @ 10:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:

let us know how you like the philips machine (with a new thread) - does it have built-in digital channels?
Actually this is my second Philips machine with similar pn. It has digital SD tuner so HD programs are stored as 720 x 480 and use same space as SD. The editing software isn't as good as the Panny and it doesn't feature fit-to-disc dubbing, and no DVD-RAM support (a biggy), but it is available and new, and the price is decent.
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11. August 2008 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jhaninger,

I don't have a cable box. However, I don't understand why disabling the TV Guide feature affects what input you record from when setting the programming timer manually. If you use L3 from your cable box, I presume you followed the directions on page 11 of the manual when configuring the unit. You tell the unit you have a cable box connected and then it permits you to specify what channel the cable box transmits on (e.g. Ch2, Ch3, Ch4, or L3). Note you can tell the unit to receive from the cable box using L3. I would have thought that all manual timer recordings would apply to L3 at that point and that the IR blaster would be used to change the cable box channel appropriately for timer triggered program recording. But if not, perhaps you can simply set the Input Select (e.g. using the remote) to L3.

Someone with a cable box might have more insight.

I'm also not certain what you mean by the TV Guide feature having died - unless you mean your service provider is blocking it or the channel on which it was being broadcast changed and you are no longer set up correctly to receive it. There is much information on the thread concerning fine tuning your set up for TV Guide download.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. August 2008 @ 16:53

Kassel
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11. August 2008 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jhan ... if you want to bring the tv guide back to life, maybe you should change the zip code to a neighboring town with similar channel lineups. I had to do that for about six months, apparently because the tv guide download to my zip code was not functioning correctly.

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scustalow
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12. August 2008 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have had the E85H for several years..I like the tv guide function..Here lately I had to unpug it and lost the tv guide listing..I have tried several zip codes local..and all I get is the station icons on the left..and no listings..my unit isnt conected to a cable box..the cable is coming straight into the E85H..is there a chance I need a cable converter box now to receive the listings..?
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12. August 2008 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by scustalow:
I have had the E85H for several years..I like the tv guide function..Here lately I had to unpug it and lost the tv guide listing..I have tried several zip codes local..and all I get is the station icons on the left..and no listings..my unit isnt conected to a cable box..the cable is coming straight into the E85H..is there a chance I need a cable converter box now to receive the listings..?
I don't think you need the converter box, in fact that would probably NOT help.

Read through the TVGO posts on pages 58 to 60. Try the power down and unplug for 30 seconds proc originated by VideoBob (make sure you read and follow the instructions). Go to the 753159852 screens and look for the host channel and next download time. The machine may need to be off of 24 hours in a row to find the new host channel.

Cal

Cal 8571x
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14. August 2008 @ 14:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by vulcanusa:
jhaninger,

If you use L3 from your cable box, I presume you followed the directions on page 11 of the manual when configuring the unit. You tell the unit you have a cable box connected and then it permits you to specify what channel the cable box transmits on (e.g. Ch2, Ch3, Ch4, or L3).
I may be missing something, but there are no directions on page 11 other than directions to set up the the channel by means of the TV Guide setup. If you bypass the TV Guide setup, the Channel Blaster also does not work to change channels. Nothing in the Setup Menu allows you to select input channel.

Anyone else know how to select the input channel after bypassing the TV Guide setup?
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vulcanusa
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14. August 2008 @ 16:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jhaninger,

I'm sorry. Yes, the procedure I cited is in the section titled: "Setting Up The TV Guide On Screen System". You must perform that procedure even if you then proceed to disable the "download" of the electronic TV Guide by performing an Auto Channel Scan.

Are you saying you perform the instructions on page 11 of the manual and select L3 as your input, then you disable the TV Guide "download" by performing a manual Auto Channel Scan through the SetUp menu, and then when you manually enter a timer program, the DVR won't drive the IR blaster and won't use the input (i.e. L3) you selected when you followed the instructions on page 11 of the manual?

If so, I'm surprised the designers tied the ability to select other than an antenna input and use of the IR blaster to DOWNLOADING the electronic TV Guide. There is no reason I can think of why downloading the TV Guide should be related to the ability of a manual timer program to trigger the use of the IR blaster and then automatically switch to the input you selected in the procedure on page 11.

Please note this statement on page 10 of the instruction manual:

"Even if you do not want to use the TV Guide On Screen
system, complete the setup. You cannot use timer
recording unless the setup is completed."

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. August 2008 @ 16:21

 
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