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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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3. September 2008 @ 21:32 |
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looks stable to me...lol
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3. September 2008 @ 21:50 |
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Morty... ;)
RedRob.... that's looks as good as anything you've posted in months. :) Glad you didn't have any issues with finding drivers and such. ;) NOW if you do have some issues... a fresh install of Vista might do you some good. heheheehe. :P
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3. September 2008 @ 21:54 |
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Mort81,
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why did you say this
I said it because it's more a thing with the PSU combined with an active bios which was how it was explained to me. Even with the main switched off, there is still some juice going to the motherboard, and not just to the power switch on the computer. It all depends on the design and quality of the PSU! The same thing happens with certain types of crashes. You go into and endless cycle of re-boots, and the first thing you think of is you've blown up something on the MB! Turn the main switch off and wait a while and then turn the computer back on and it does the same thing over and over. Unplug the power cord from the PSU for a few minutes and when you turn it on it will turn on, off and then on again and boot right up! I've also seen a lock-up so bad, where even turning off the mains will not turn the computer off! It's almost like a relay or something is locked closed! I never had that with any of the junk PSUs I used to use! LOL!!
I figure that whatever the reason, it's worked for me, and it sure can't hurt! My assumption is that the PSU constantly monitors certain things in the computer, even when shut down, even though the PSU is turned off. I know that I have been advised by both Asus and GigaByte to unplug the PSU when you remove the battery. I've just done it that way ever since without any problems or issues when I re-boot!
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oh and no offense but lets leave the P5N-E out of the discussion. that mobo was a lemon from the get-go in every respect.
It was only mentioned because this is the first time I ever ran across that kind of problem, and only with the second MB! The third one worked fine, as I stated! :)
Best Regards,
Russ
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3. September 2008 @ 23:38 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
please let them have a nice board and good bios, and im choosing them for my X58, of course it has to OC the nutts, as thats always my priority :D
that board gonna have healthy price tag on it...ic it's tagged Rev 0.1..i guess that's how they gonna start out at..
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4. September 2008 @ 00:08 |
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bigwill,
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that board gonna have healthy price tag on it...ic it's tagged Rev 0.1..i guess that's how they gonna start out at..
I'll bet around $200! It will more than likely be Rev. 1.0. I think all of their motherboards are that way. It looks like the water block is all copper. That's a sticker on the top. I also think that the water block will be mandatory for any decent X58 MB because I'll bet that the Core i7 will be just like the higher Kentsfields as water cooling is mandatory with them. I wonder how Intel will determine that for a warranty problem. The way they've gotten lately, they will probably ask for a copy of the receipt for your water cooling set up or a copy of the invoice. The QX6850 is as high as they presently go with air cooling! I had to supply a copy invoice when I replaced the D-940. The hardest thing was when they asked for the tiny numbers on the CPU board, just outside the heat spreader. It took a 7 power OptiVisor and a magnifying glass to even see them. It took the collective efforts of 4 people to figure out the numbers. A microscope would be the best bet, and I am serious! The only thing I ever saw with that small a print was a pin with "The Lord's Prayer" on the head of it! LOL!! Intel is not quite as friendly as they used to be when they were fighting for customers! Surprise, surprise! ROFLMSOAO!!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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4. September 2008 @ 01:32 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
The only thing I ever saw with that small a print was a pin with "The Lord's Prayer" on the head of it! LOL!! Intel is not quite as friendly as they used to be when they were fighting for customers! Surprise, surprise! ROFLMSOAO!!
Best Regards,
Russ
is this what you mean??
I just wanna see your reaction..lol
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4. September 2008 @ 03:09 |
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bigwill68,
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is this what you mean??
Yup, and they are even tinier on the D-940 and written in a yellow gold sort of color on a green background! Hard as hell to see!
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I just wanna see your reaction..lol
You would have been better off wondering what my reaction was when I was trying to read the damn thing! LOL!! The guy from Intel was no help either! 10 years ago I could have read it from across the room. I had extraordinary eyesight, well into my mid to late 50s. I've only worn glasses for about 6-7 years! When I was low on money I would go into a bar, order a beer and strike up a conversation about good eyesight. I would bet that I could read a Reader's Digest the length of the bar. Never lost! LOL!! One guy accused me of memorizing the RD! I had him take out his driver's license and I read that! $50 please! ROFLMAO!!
Happy Computering,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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4. September 2008 @ 06:51 |
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What's with the crystals?
I think we're all hoping the fudzilla article is wrong. Time will tell, I suspect. What the article says though, renders i7 almost useless for overclocking though, so to come across a watercooled chipset heatsink? That has Overclock written all over it... :P
There is definitely power going to a motherboard when a PC is switched off but the PSU left on. Turn that switch off at the back though and it cuts all power to the PSU, at the A.C. side, so the board can't see anything.
I have no issue reading the tiny writing at the bottom of my E4300 (since it's out on the desk presently) from about 9 inches distance, but further away and it gets a bit tricky...
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4. September 2008 @ 07:11 |
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sammorris,
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There is definitely power going to a motherboard when a PC is switched off but the PSU left on. Turn that switch off at the back though and it cuts all power to the PSU, at the A.C. side, so the board can't see anything.
I don't know what to tell you Sam! Both Asus and GigaByte told me that there was something about the bios being monitored unless the plug was pulled with some PSUs. I have no idea, but if there is no voltage with just the mains switched off, then why would I have the repeated on/off/on/off continuously after a crash? Why also was I unable to shut it down with the mains when it froze up real bad? I tried the reset switch, holding the power button in and turning off the mains on the psu, and the picture remained on the screen until I pulled the plug!! I turned the PSU off with the mains switch and went grocery shopping, and when I came back 45 minutes later, I turned the PSU back on and when I booted it up the power just kept turning on and off every few seconds. I had this happen to me several times while overclocking. Once I turned off the mains and pulled the plug from the PSU, 5 minutes later it would on/off/on and boot right up!
Respectfully,
Russ
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4. September 2008 @ 07:15 |
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Turning the PSU switch off at the back and the picture stayed on the screen? I'm baffled...
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4. September 2008 @ 07:38 |
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sammorris,
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Turning the PSU switch off at the back and the picture stayed on the screen? I'm baffled...
If you remember, I have seen that once before, only there was sparks and flame coming out of the PSU! I had to pull the power cord before I could pull the burning drapes down and throw them in the shower. I remember being amused at the time seeing the screen on and smoke and sparks and flames coming out of the back of the tower! When I saw the drapes go up, I was no longer amused! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
P.S. Check your e-mail
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4. September 2008 @ 07:39 |
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Yeah, but not quite the same thing eh! :P
Seen the email, will watch in a bit, I'm actually in the middle of a supreme commander game at the moment... haha
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4. September 2008 @ 09:39 |
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ok fellas im moven over to the OC thread with this stuff here.seeing im more into the OC part now instead of building.. until i get me a E0 stepping E8400 or E8600...lol
pics of my new bios
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/83263/4248740
oh yea i got my speakers yesterday. just put them together.. man these things are loud!!!!!!!!!!. very nice for $39... well at least i think so. i gotta get thevolume adjusted from when it starts up. sounds like it is turned all the way up.
KID ROCK sounds good on these speakers...lmao
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4. September 2008 @ 15:20 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Mort81,
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why did you say this
I said it because it's more a thing with the PSU combined with an active bios which was how it was explained to me. Even with the main switched off, there is still some juice going to the motherboard, and not just to the power switch on the computer. It all depends on the design and quality of the PSU! The same thing happens with certain types of crashes. You go into and endless cycle of re-boots, and the first thing you think of is you've blown up something on the MB! Turn the main switch off and wait a while and then turn the computer back on and it does the same thing over and over. Unplug the power cord from the PSU for a few minutes and when you turn it on it will turn on, off and then on again and boot right up! I've also seen a lock-up so bad, where even turning off the mains will not turn the computer off! It's almost like a relay or something is locked closed! I never had that with any of the junk PSUs I used to use! LOL!!
Russ,
I wasn't specifically talking about removing the power cord from the PSU when you clear the cmos. I was refering to you clearing the cmos in general when you flash the bios. you should not have to clear the cmos when you flash the bios.
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4. September 2008 @ 17:08 |
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Mort81,
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I wasn't specifically talking about removing the power cord from the PSU when you clear the cmos. I was refering to you clearing the cmos in general when you flash the bios. you should not have to clear the cmos when you flash the bios.
I just do it because every MB manufacturer I've dealt with in the last year or so recommends it. Asus, Biostar, Dell, Gigabyte, Foxconn and a few other as well. There must be some reason they all tell you to do it that way! I'm going to do some research and report back on it!
EDIT: This is from Abit's forum. Scroll down to "after the flash procedure". They advocate clearing the bios after flashing, and even tell you to put the cmos jumper to 'clear cmos!
http://forum.uabit.com/showthread.php?t=133291
Happy Computering,
Russ
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4. September 2008 @ 18:31 |
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Russ,
that was from clear back in 2003. I have never cleared the cmos after a bios flash. never had the need to or even thought about doing it. I can't remember ever reading anywhere in any of my mobo manuals in regards to flashing the bios, where it says to clear the cmos after a bios flash. I've never done it but hey to each their own. there is usually more than one correct way of doing something although sometimes one method requires some unneeded or unnecessary effort.
call me lazy, but I'm not going to start clearing the cmos now after many successful flashes without any problems. I haven't had the need to clear cmos after a bios flash yet and not about to change my ways now. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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4. September 2008 @ 18:35 |
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4. September 2008 @ 18:36 |
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Mort81,
Different strokes for different folks. If you never have a problem then all is good! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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4. September 2008 @ 18:37 |
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you guys make me giggle. ;)
You both know that you can do it either way and trying to convince one or the other to do their way is fruitless. lol.
I've flashed the BIOS a few times... not nearly what you gentlemen have but I've done it both ways with success. ;) So just do it your way and enjoy it. :P
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4. September 2008 @ 18:39 |
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greensman,
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you guys make me giggle. ;)
Oh, so GM stands for Giggle Man! ROFLMSOAO!!
Russ
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4. September 2008 @ 18:50 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
ok building time again...lol
was looking through newegg.mostly cases... what did i see. a new coolermaster case. 932RC which is a supped up RC690. but it is nice. i really like it. plus it comes stock with a red front fan...lol
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
i also seen this one over at microcenter. its nice also. allong the same lines as teh RC590/690 case.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...1133058
NOT to get lost in the BIOS wars.... lol. :P
I like that case just needs some GREEN fans to make it RIGHT!!!! :D It has some nice features and the possible cable management is MUCH better than the regular 690 offers. :) OH and it has 6 (yep six) bays for ODD's!!!! *smiles from ear to ear* :D
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4. September 2008 @ 19:02 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
I like that case just needs some GREEN fans to make it RIGHT!!!! :D It has some nice features and the possible cable management is MUCH better than the regular 690 offers. :) OH and it has 6 (yep six) bays for ODD's!!!! *smiles from ear to ear* :D
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i knew you would point out the 6 drive bays..lol so did I....and it does look to have some good grazing land in there to hide stuff...lol
id say at the top where they have the space for the water coolant. you could do alot with it if not useing water... might have to auction of my 690 and step up to a 932.....
what is it? allways gotta have the next new toy..lmao
BIOS war???? hell ive fought my war with the bios... now i just gotta understand what i can do in it...lmao... guess its not as good to have the only one of a product when it comes to help...
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4. September 2008 @ 19:21 |
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cincyrob,
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what is it? allways gotta have the next new toy..lmao
Yeah well, My new toy resides in my computer and has about 2500 pipeless pipes! LOL!! Eventually it will have about 8000! LOL!!
Russ
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4. September 2008 @ 19:30 |
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You can stick nine optical drives in an Antec 900, if you don't want any hard disks! lmao
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4. September 2008 @ 19:33 |
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Ouch, i've only got 6 HDD's in mine with 3 opticals.
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