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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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Any Flaming Results in a Temp Ban or Worse. Your Choice!!!
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1. September 2008 @ 02:18 |
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LOCOENG & spamual,
I'm going to take this one person at a time, starting with spamual as his post is the easiest to address.
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all i hear is oldies and their hate of change, yammering on about vista.
First thing I resent in your post, is being referred to as an oldie! It's not that I'm not old, but if you look at my original post there is not one thing in it referring to young people, so you are taking exception to something that isn't even in the post, so you are assuming something that doesn't exist! It's not that I resent change, as I am a very progressive person. What I do resent is change for changes sake, just to make some Mega-Billion Corporation even richer. I resent M$ attempts at dictating how and what I can do with a computer I paid for!
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i wonder how much you lot hated xp when you were using 98, but you moved over didnt you?
I didn't hate XP at all, other than the lack of any real DOS support, which rendered most of the games "I like to play" useless, and rendered almost all the software I had obsolete, and denied me the right to use what I want to use and like. I have bought and paid for, Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 2000 and finally XP! The only Windows I never bought was ME, and that was because it wasn't any good! It had horrible issues with compatibility, even within the OS itself!
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without the OS forceing more resources to be used, normal people wont be getting better computers to use them, it advances technology.
Young people today have to have "Flash"! It's not how good something is, it's how cool something is and how good they look using it! Let's face it, we live in a Bling-Bling world today. Things don't have to be superior, they just have to look good! If "normal people" were getting something better, I wouldn't argue, but the fact remains that there is very little that Vista does better than XP. Every comparison review between Vista and XP (so called "Shoot Outs") has been won "handily" by XP. To me Vista is nothing but "Smoke and Mirrors"! The analogy here, is that it looks good, therefore it must be better!
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people only turn down vista to XP becuase they also fear change, its huiman nature. most people without using vista hate it, so switch over. they just hear the hype. or they buy a computer for £200 which could never handle vista at all, and then complain about it.
I'm 64 years old and I've never been afraid of change in my life! I was working with Microprocessors before you were born, and long before there ever was a PC! I never feared the switch from tubes to Transistors and then to integrated circuits, I embraced it! I realized at a very early age, that all these changes were the future, and were the forerunner of all the modern electronics we have today! Your mention of cheap computers that could never handle Vista at all, makes me laugh. I had a computer here a few monts ago, a HP Vista machine, that came with 128MB of RAM! It even bragged about it on the label on the front of the machine, claiming that it runs your programs faster because of it! Never mind that 128MB is far below the minimum required for Vista! HP still sells them!
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im sick and tired of you lot and your vista hating, you grown ups, please grow up.
No! You grow up! Show some respect for age, knowledge and wisdom that comes from having been around this long, and having an open mind and always, the desire to learn!
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a 1 up to the young'uns who decide to embrase newer OS's and hardware, so the technology can move on.
You "young'uns" don't seem to understand that it isn't you that get to do the deciding, It's a room full of fat rich old board members that make those decisions. Technology has moved on, the problem is M$ wants to dictate the terms of what can be done with it, and how!
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and russ i have heard alot about this sectret court case against MS abotu vista, that your a part of, wonder if that wil ever be true ¬_¬
No! You really haven't. First off, it's not secret and I never implied that it was! This case's information has been sealed by the Courts at the request of Micro$oft, almost since the investigation started and all the dirt under the carpeting started showing itself. So all you really know is just rumor and speculation! There is no real information available at this time to the public or the news media! only rumor, and speculation!
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its true what they say, you cannot teach an old dog new tricks, and thankyou loco for finalyl with me being the only ones (inc boozer a little) who back up vista.
That's a BS statement, and you know it! It was written in a different era entirely, and is a term that has been bandied about every time someone has had the guts to stand up to change for changes sake, rather than true progress!
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Same can be said for those who bash it.
I don't think that I bash it. My feelings about Vista's shortcomings are based on the facts and my experience with it in the field. That I dislike it is a given. It's still a fact that XP-Professional is the better OS!
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They are also trying to run programs written for XP, not a new OS.
Not true at all! Even programs written expressly for Vista have problems! Backward compatibility should not even be an issue! It has no affect on the present. It's nothing more than a lame attempt to increase Micro$ofts software partners sales (and earnings), at highly inflated prices! You are forced to buy in because the software manufacturers simply stop supporting otherwise good programs so they will no longer work! That's what happened with Sandra 2005. One day it worked fine and the next day it didn't work at all! Same computer, same software! Scisoft just added a little thing into your software that was keyed to the date that popped up a message telling you that SciSoft no longer supported the software. I didn't change a single thing in my computer, SciSoft did!
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It tells me that they believe all the rhetoric they read and are afraid to change or even give Vista a chance.
Not as long as they refuse to allow you the freedom of choice! There's a huge difference between being allowed to do something vs being dictated to! In M$ eyes, there is no choice, and I resent that!
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What do you expect, if you upgrade you upgrade....or would you prefer to beat around the bush and only halfway upgrade?
If you could kindly explain to me what difference the printer makes, I will be happy to listen! I have an old Brother HL-1240, that works perfectly fine. There's nothing wrong with it and it serves my needs well. When I plugged it's usb cable into the Dell E1505 laptop, I got an error message telling me it couldn't find the hardware ID, it waited a few minutes, and when I didn't remove the offending hardware, it blue screened and shut the computer down because it could "potentially damage my computer"! What they are not saying is that Brother is not willing to pony up the fee to M$ for Vista certification for such an old printer! Even though printers are cheap, why should I be forced to give up a perfectly good printer just to soothe Bill Gates ego and his desire to dictate the hardware "allowed" to be used with "His" OS?
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Everyone who wants more for less should use Linux and try getting all their stuff working with that OS.
You are entirely missing the point! That would be a choice on my part to choose Linux. Micro$oft is trying their utmost to deny you any choice at all. It's do it "My Way" or not at all! It amounts to nothing more than blackmail!
I agree with you that Dell, HP/Compaq, eMachines and others contribute to all the Bloatware. I'm not denying that for a minute. There's no reason that the hardware should ever not be compatible with XP. There's nothing changed in the printer port, usb ports, serial ports. They have always been backward compatible. You can run older usb 1.0 devices on usb 2.0 ports. M$ doesn't give a rats behind about that. All they care about is being paid for the privilege of allowing hardware to be Vista compatible! The ports haven't changed at all, you just have to pay for the privilege to use them! It's a toll booth in the middle of what was once a free road! A loophole so to speak!
I take no exception to your post. I was concise and to the point. There's no fanboyism on my part. I've simply stated the problems as I see them. I'm not making this up as I go along. If people don't stand up for what is right, then we allow someone else to dictate the terms of what we are and are not allowed to do with our own property.
It takes 60 years to live 60 years. There are no shortcuts. You Live, hopefully learn and then die! What you do with what you learn before you die is the most important thing, otherwise life would be nothing more than total futility! These people at M$ are not benevolent people at all. They are rich greedy capitalists that bend or break the laws to their liking, counting on their wealth and connections to keep them out of trouble. They got away with it for so long that they thought they were invincible. They have since discovered that once crap starts rolling downhill, it's difficult to stop. Things are going to change, and there's nothing M$ can do about it. M$ started it and the people are going to finish it, and unless well over 100,000 people all die within a very short period of time, M$ has already lost!
Best Regards,
Russ
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1. September 2008 @ 04:03 |
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theonejrs: WOW ! Never seen such a POLITICALLY Correct Document like that hear B4. All is so true, but being 62 myself. I have learned that you have to live a life time to understand terminology that affects us today. This is probably the GREEDIEST of eras I think that I have lived in. I remember when butter was very expensive at $0.20 a # so U bought white margrine with a dye ball to colour it, Gas was barely affordable at $0.14 a gallon. etc,etc,etc
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1. September 2008 @ 05:56 |
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Mort81,
Sorry for the late reply as I missed your post.
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BTW! I had my first good look at the much "aclaimed" Rampage Formula bios today. Beautiful $200+ motherboard that comes with a 99 cent manual! 170 pages and when you get to the overclocking part there's next to nothing other than the CPU multiplier, fsb and memory settings. They don't give even a small hint as to what to do with anything else.
Here's a helpful hint Asus, drop the stupid lights and gizmos and print a decent freekin manual. This MB deserves far better than the piece of garbage manual you supply with it!
I'm sorry Morty, but I don't see where I dissed the MB. I did say somewhere that I feel that the bios is is severe overkill, which for 90% of the people would be correct! I praised the MB, but panned the useless manual! That's all! It lacks substance in the areas that needs a little more than a casual overview!
You were not the person who had argued that the sound was superior. I reported that I could find no measurable difference between it and the HD on my MB!
The NB problem is well documented all over the net. The fact that the optional fan is useless with all but a "Flower" type cooler to me means Asus is giving a strong hint that you should switch to water cooling. There were a number of complaints of NB temps in the very high 50s. I have no way of knowing what the problem is or what kind of cooling these people have. As you well know all of that varies from case to case and depends on so many other factors! All I can say is that it is a concern to many people! My Doctor friend's NB runs in the mid to high 40s. He has removed the cooler and re-installed it with MX-2, because he was seeing temps in the low 50s. He also said that the cooler is not the easiest thing to remove! LOL!!
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At 3.6GHz though, it's a fabulous computer!
Respectfully,
Russ
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1. September 2008 @ 06:20 |
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When XP came out - 'not compatible with all my old games, what the hell is this?' - within a month or two I realised I didn't actually play any of those games any more so it wasn't an issue. I wanted XP before even the 2002 version came out, but it was delayed two years as I didn't get a decent PC until then, and didn't want XP on an old P3 450.
Originally posted by spamual:
without the OS forceing more resources to be used, normal people wont be getting better computers to use them, it advances technology.
This line sums up exactly what is wrong with software in the modern generation - computers are getting faster, no need to write efficient code, look at all the resources we have to waste! if you think this is a good thing, I never want to hear you moan about a game that doesn't run maxed out on your PC again.
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people only turn down vista to XP becuase they also fear change, its huiman nature.
No, they fear problems, and problems is what they get with Vista. I for one like the majority of what Vista offers, I had no fear of it at all. Sure, I disliked the file browser, but I'll probably warm to that in time. However, since the OS is completely unusable due for me due to the file system incompatibility, even if I did want to use Vista, I can't, I am genuinely unable to.
For the majority of people, I don't really see what there is to hate so much about Vista. - sure, it uses an astronomical amount of RAM, but people who have new PCs and game typically get 4GB of RAM these days, which is ample. People who don't will probably be after 2GB - as long as you don't want to install a large program or open several browser windows, you can keep under the 2GB line. It's the incompatibilities that cause the problems. Most of them, as I've already stated, are down to the manufacturers not providing adequate drivers/support, Creative being one of the main offenders here. However, some of them are within the OS itself, and come Service Pack 1 them not being fixed is pretty dire. If you don't experience any of these, then I can see why you would accept Vista, especially if you have a powerful PC. If you do though, it can change your experience with Vista for life.
rick5446: I feel your pain, but since there doesn't appear to be a fix for all this, I think we're stuck with it.
ChrisC586: For a cheaper, decent PSU, I recommend the 380W Antec EarthWatts, it's cheap, quiet and reliable.
Greensman: I do indeed.... :P - by all means try Vista, but for the love of god, get a new, clean HDD to install it on and make sure you don't need to access anything from any drive that's even seen XP.
Theone: Wow, a post as long as mine... :P
Windows Me, ugh, what an OS. I 'upgraded' from 98SE to Me once, and then upgraded back within a month!
With regard to having to 'grow up' I'd probably take offense at that statement as well. People who slag off vista because they've never tried it and have only heard the scare-stories should certainly get a slap, but on the same side people who happen not to have had problems with Vista (and I'm sure it does happen, I don't believe for a minute that that's impossible) should wake up and realise that for a substantial proportion of users, Vista has big issues. Just because you haven't has problems doesn't mean problems don't exist...
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1. September 2008 @ 06:42 |
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Thanks Sam I also believe you posted a link about psu's about whats inside of them. Thats what I've been searching for. To whomever my last word on Vista, I find it very arrogant on M$ part that it wouldn't use M$ own wireless keyboard less than 6 months old at the time and as stated games and other hardware at the time, oh yeah even the HP 2610 printer bought at the time, no at the time a no brainer to stick with XP. This old Btard is not against change but the long awaited arrival of longhorn- Vista was a joke along with ME.I'm waiting for 7 but I won't rush in again like Vista.I also thought when I bought the XP64 all the bugs would be out of that.I agree change is sometimes better but not in this case.
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1. September 2008 @ 06:55 |
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sammorris,
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Theone: Wow, a post as long as mine... :P
Windows Me, ugh, what an OS. I 'upgraded' from 98SE to Me once, and then upgraded back within a month!
I was going for a page all to myself! LOL!!
I think my post answered any criticism directed my way! The comment about old people being resistant to change goes all the way back to the early 1900s, and had much more to do with Automobiles and motorized Farm equipment than anything. Same thing about the Old Dog, new tricks crap! Anybody can learn if they have the desire to! The big problem with a lot of the younger generation is that they are basically lazy! I'm not talking about anyone here, except maybe boozer, but he was the one who said he was lazy, not me! LOL!! You can't get kids to pick up a book and read these days. The 13 year old next door hates to read, and that's sad. I have a College Degree, and I can tell you right now I learned more from reading Periodicals in Doctor's offices over the years, than I ever learned in school. I used to read everything I could get my hands on. I had a routine where as I went from office to office to do my work, I would continue with the same magazine, in the next office I went to! I just finished "The Romanov Prophecy" by Steve Berry, and it's a really great book. I have sat and read the complete "Harry Potter and the ***" series from book 1 through 7 in 3 days. She is an amazing writer.
The kid next door wants to be a "Professional Skateboarder"! I told him flat out that he was nowhere good enough, and his prospects for getting a whole lot better are slim to none! I'm better than he is at 64 and I haven't even been on a skateboard in over 15 years! LOL!! Just think, these kids are going to run things one of these days! Thank God I'm close to my wings!
Russ
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1. September 2008 @ 07:20 |
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Anybody that thinks Senior [old] people are resistant to change needs to come to work with me one day and see a 86 year old woman learning to surf the web when her whole life was stuck at home raising the kids tending family and garden and talking about the thrill ride of racing the horse and buggys.Theses are the sort of people I need the cheaper PSU's for that have worked hard all their life with little left after drug food and heat costs.To them dial up is slicker than snot on a glass door knob!
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1. September 2008 @ 07:24 |
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While I'd perhaps agree with the 'old dog new tricks' argument to a certain extent, it comes down to willpower, anyone has the ability to learn something new, but whether or not they choose to do so is another matter. In your case, I could hardly think of a more ill-fitting adage. It's been pretty obvious over the years you're not afraid of doing things and expanding your knowledge.
Chris:
I don't remember posting a link about the insides of PSUs, can you clarify it a bit?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005
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1. September 2008 @ 07:31 |
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I believe it was a link to why you shouldn't buy cheap PSU's showing one go up in smoke and the page had links off of it about the different manufacturers of PSU's if I remember right , of course I could have caught the disease of a senior moment and dreamed it up!
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I don't know where common sense comes from. But I have noticed over the last 4 Generations I've Observed. It is some how decreasing in each new generation, its lacking in every sense of the word, and in all areas. Now I don't mean everybody, just a larger portion of the majority. Without it you will never be able to understand change or even how to cope with it, or even understand the simplest of things. Common sense tells U 1+1=2, I realize U have to learn it first. But this day and age Learning is a handicap for most. I see it all the time with the teenagers who stop by to use my Computer. The answer most of the time will be staring them right in the face, and yet its easier for them to holler at me & ask how to or try and get me to do it for them. They lack the capability to absorb what they are showed or even taught. Now to me this is common sense. Learning and absorbing
Now Common Sense tells me we have been way of topic hear for the last few pages. How bout we get back to the TASK at hand. BUILDING and Bragging on Computers. O yes problem solving TOO
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1. September 2008 @ 09:08 |
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This bragging enough for ya? :)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9857/...2oc18547rd7.jpg
I might see if I can get it to run at an even higher, somewhat less stable CPU speed and turn down the mipmap quality, just to go for broke on the score. It won't be realistic, but I'm curious to see how high I can get it...
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1. September 2008 @ 09:26 |
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Question: When applying the Arctic Silver, is it better to spread it out on the CPU, or I've seen some diagrams on the Quads that show a couple of lines and let it spread itself
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1. September 2008 @ 09:35 |
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A single line across the CPU, let the heat do the rest.
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1. September 2008 @ 09:53 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
Question: When applying the Arctic Silver, is it better to spread it out on the CPU, or I've seen some diagrams on the Quads that show a couple of lines and let it spread itself
seeing that i have done this about 7 times in the last couple weeks. Ive done each way, and as long as it spreads correctly once you give the HSF a little twist. i haven't seen any difference in temps with either technique.the last time i just did it, i spread a little drop around with a credit card. looks real pretty and smooth.
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1. September 2008 @ 10:09 |
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This latter method is what I used when applying Thermalright's basic silicone paste to my Q6600, since it's completely different stuff to Arctic Silver I thought I'd do it the old-fashioned way.
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1. September 2008 @ 10:14 |
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sammorris,
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This bragging enough for ya? :)
Well lets see.... Hmm, that's 4.6 times faster than mine! ROFLMSOAO!!
Great Score BTW!
Congrats,
Russ
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1. September 2008 @ 10:46 |
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Hehe, thank you... :)
Sadly with the ususl caveats of Crossfire-supported, and even ATI-supported games, the real world performance difference can be a lot higher, or a lot lower than that.
Max out HL2:Episode Two and I'm looking at 90fps. Use the same settings on Flatout:Ultimate Carnage and I get 30fps... :S
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1. September 2008 @ 10:49 |
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Arctic Silver is it OK, or is their something better. When I get my old board back from ASUS, I'll be putting another Comp together. I'm doing away with my old E-Machine cabinet tired of this small unit,and going with a Roswell Conqueror Max Tower..Don't know if I like the design or not. HDD Tray slides in & out from the front. Look to have plenty of room & storage though. Its damn sure the heaviest cabinet I've got
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Arctic Silver is one of the best, but people seem to be having good results with Arctic Cooling MX-2 and OCZ Freeze of late, so any of these three should be a good bet. Thermalright's ChillFactor also seems to do quite well, but I'd probably recommend the other 3 above it until I can find some definite results.
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1. September 2008 @ 11:43 |
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i really cannot be bothered to counter act russ's statement. he has one mind and will stick to it, and when someone as influential as him has his big say on AD not even the mods cant stop all the people reading from being influenced by him.
russ you really do have to be right in everyargument dont you.... :(
oh well you win, im too "lazy" to bother with you, and to tired from fasting to type LOL.
i think imma take a little break from AD to cool my self down, see you lot in about a month
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1. September 2008 @ 11:48 |
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We all get the hump when we haven't eaten. I'm willing to bet you're back before then.
Russ has the right to voice an opinion as much as anyone else - so what if he uses more words? Given the rather unfair post you made about him being old, if anything he has more right than you do. I try not be as utterly anti-Vista as he is, but the point we're trying to make is that 'Vista works fine for everyone' is completely indefensible. It doesn't work for me, it clearly hasn't worked for Russ on numerous occasions and that's that. If we were to buy a physical product that didn't work and we were unhappy about that fact, would you still call us mad just because it worked for you?
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1. September 2008 @ 12:14 |
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but the point we're trying to make is that 'Vista works fine for everyone' is completely indefensible.
I didn't see that as the point trying to be put forth....it was more like Vista sux0rs, worst OS since ME, show me a hole and I'll chuck it in. I made my point and so has everyone else. It's ultimately the choice of the person installing the OS whether or not to use Vista or XP or Linux or Tiger etc. We can only pass on our feelings and personal experiences. The only reason I felt compelled to even post was because I feel like the ones talking the loudest really have never tried it and will never give it a chance. This isn't a new argument and will probably never end...you'll see more when MS releases 7 and the next OS after that and the next after that. You can't make everyone happy, but only try to improve on what you already have.
Cheers m8s!
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I for one have tried vista and don't like it. that's all I will say on that matter.
now how bout some benchy's where it really matters. I don't game so 3D Mark benchy's don't mean that much to me. I'll run 3D Mark 06 after bit anyway and post the results later. here's my sandra benchy's
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/Mor...sat356ghz-1.jpg
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. September 2008 @ 12:49
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