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mrk44,
I would be very careful what you plug that drive into, as you don't want to damage something permanently. It sounds an awful lot like your old "My Book" has reached the final chapter! Whatever it is, is putting a big enough drain on the voltage to cause the computer to crash, and that's not good!

I had a drive that would last all the way through an xP install, and then crash on the first real boot-up, every time. Like an idiot I grabbed it with my hand and got burned. That sucker must have been 160F or higher as I wound up with some nasty red marks on my hand for a few days! Segate has a nice 500GB one at Newegg for $102.99 with free shipping! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148240
Check it out. It has all three interfaces, usb, FireWire and E-Sata!

Best Regards,
Russ


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god help us all, gm.
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Sam, got my new headset today, thank you so much for your advice, the sound quality is absolutely brilliant, i am thrilled with it.

Well worth paying the extra money :)
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
mrk44,
I would be very careful what you plug that drive into, as you don't want to damage something permanently. It sounds an awful lot like your old "My Book" has reached the final chapter! Whatever it is, is putting a big enough drain on the voltage to cause the computer to crash, and that's not good!

I had a drive that would last all the way through an xP install, and then crash on the first real boot-up, every time. Like an idiot I grabbed it with my hand and got burned. That sucker must have been 160F or higher as I wound up with some nasty red marks on my hand for a few days! Segate has a nice 500GB one at Newegg for $102.99 with free shipping! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148240
Check it out. It has all three interfaces, usb, FireWire and E-Sata!

Best Regards,
Russ
I guess it's time to chuck the thing then. Had it for a good year...
Anyway, it was a backup drive to my regular external so I don't need a new one as I already have a 500GB Buffalo working nicely at the moment. Thanks for your help!

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mrk44,
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I guess it's time to chuck the thing then. Had it for a good year...
Anyway, it was a backup drive to my regular external so I don't need a new one as I already have a 500GB Buffalo working nicely at the moment. Thanks for your help!

You're most welcome! You might want to check on the warranty. They vary quite a bit between different manufacturers. The warranty period could be as little as 1 year, to up to 5 years.

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god help us all, gm.

GM is well beyound God's help! ROFL!! I suspect there's a "Lightning Bolt" in a closet up there with his name on it if God ever stops laughing! ROFLMAO!!

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Got my q6600 today.

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So...who wants to play TF2 with me?
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@Russ

i may step up to DDR3 by the end of the year..i've been looking around on newegg for some and looking at people's reviews...ic a few that don't make the 10666..ic see a few do corsair,g.skill,OcZ,..my mind is set on that OcZ Platinum at the moment..only if it's double side..but not sure about the volts..max you can take it??? what do you thing about it?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227244

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Gm: Congrats on addict status!
Evastar: You're welcome, I'm thrilled with my Sennheiser set too.
proxyRAX: sounds like a similar binning to mine, expect it to top out at about 3.3Ghz on a reasonable voltage, if you're OC'ing that is... :P
Rob: X-230, X-240, X-530, X-540, all good perfoming sets for the price. I'm a Z-series fan myself, they can really raise the roof, if you're allowed to do such things... :P



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I'm a Z-series fan myself, they can really raise the roof, if you're allowed to do such things... :P
OH im the King of my Castle(as long as the QUEEN isnt home) i can raise the roof when ever i want..lol

i looked at the X-540 model at microcenter today. they are nice very nice. but i dont need 5 speakers plus the sub...i think the X-240 will be perfect for me.
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5.1 is only really useful for movies, unless you have a big room and like it to be filled with music (which 5.1 is actually useful for I have to say)



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Gm: Congrats on addict status!
Evastar: You're welcome, I'm thrilled with my Sennheiser set too.
proxyRAX: sounds like a similar binning to mine, expect it to top out at about 3.3Ghz on a reasonable voltage, if you're OC'ing that is... :P
Rob: X-230, X-240, X-530, X-540, all good perfoming sets for the price. I'm a Z-series fan myself, they can really raise the roof, if you're allowed to do such things... :P
Thanks mate!! :)

RedRob just spend that BestBuy money and be done with it!! :)

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I've got the X-540 and it works wonderfully. The soud is really nice and can be really cranked up, and the volume dial on the remote is just such a pleasure to turn (seriously). The only con is that the remote is wired and may be hard to use due to the short cord and the speakers are all wired as well. For the price though, you can't find anything better.

So...who wants to play TF2 with me?
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i may step up to DDR3 by the end of the year..i've been looking around on newegg for some and looking at people's reviews...ic a few that don't make the 10666..ic see a few do corsair,g.skill,OcZ,..my mind is set on that OcZ Platinum at the moment..only if it's double side..but not sure about the volts..max you can take it??? what do you thing about it?

The problem trying to decide what to get is very limited by the history of all the really good DDR3 that's been coming to market. They just haven got enough out there to allow you much information. The memory I'm most impressed with is this GSkill. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231162
It's the only 1066 2x1GB that has timings of 6-6-6-15 at 1.65v. Everything else is 7-7-7-21 or 7-7-7-24. I also note that some manufacturers don't publish the voltage, not even on their websites. The lowest voltage wise, is the Mushkin at 1.5v, but again 7-7-7-21. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146737 Unless you absolutely have to have it now, I would wait till all this new memory shakes out a bit and gets a little history behind it.

I do know a couple of people who have the Corsair XMS DDR3. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145181
They both claim that it works very well.

The thing is, is that right now it's strictly a crap shoot. All you have to go by for the most part is the Manufacturers claims. I'm going to wait before I even consider building a DDR3 machine. I know none of this is the answer you are looking for but the current crop have been out, in some cases only a few weeks, so you have nothing tangible to go by!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Originally posted by greensman:
RedRob just spend that BestBuy money and be done with it!! :)

....gm
oh its spent. i will have them thursday...free shipping so why waste my gas driveing over there and getting them..lolyup im a cheap SOB...

and about this time tomorrow i will have swapped out the GA-EP35C-DS3R for the new GA-EP45-DS3R. hopefully it will have atleast a F7 bios if not a flash is in order.
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gm,

congrats on the addict status, ole buddy, ole pal.

rob,

if 2.1's is what you're after, you can't beat a set of klipsch promedia 2.1's. you can usually find a set of good used one's on ebay for around $80 - $90. http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/promedia-2-1.aspx

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Originally posted by Mort81:
gm,

congrats on the addict status, ole buddy, ole pal.

rob,

if 2.1's is what you're after, you can't beat a set of klipsch promedia 2.1's. you can usually find a set of good used one's on ebay for around $80 - $90. http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/promedia-2-1.aspx


ive looked at those also Mort. but i have the giftcards for best buy. and bestbuys price on the 2.1 you linked to is 150 buck.. i dont watch movieson my puter. mostly just some music now and then, and playing COD4 and what ever else i can stumble into..lol
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The thing is, is that right now it's strictly a crap shoot. All you have to go by for the most part is the Manufacturers claims. I'm going to wait before I even consider building a DDR3 machine. I know none of this is the answer you are looking for but the current crop have been out, in some cases only a few weeks, so you have nothing tangible to go by!
that's ok Russ i'm just wanna find some good ddr3 for later with good voltage handling that Oc's good..ic there's a speed diffrent between ddr3 1333 (PC3 10666)& DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) basically would'en that be the same as ddr2 1066 (8500) with the ddr3 533 a stick? i'm gonna keep my eye's on the prices..cause my Ga-p35c-Ds3r can handle Memory Standard DDR3 1333 up to 4 GB..

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basically would'en that be the same as ddr2 1066 (8500) with the ddr3 533 a stick? i'm gonna keep my eye's on the prices..cause my p35c can handle Memory Standard DDR3 1333 up to 4 GB..

LOL!! No! That would be nice maybe, but it's the same speed whether there's 1 stick or 4, it still 1066! Two 533s would only still run at 533! Also the DDR3 support is only for 800 and 1066 DDR3. The 1333 is only for DDR2!

I want to keep my eyes on that cas 6 GSkill and see how well it does. If it's good, then that's the best choice so far! A little time will tell! You should have a better idea by around the end of the year, as DDR3 sales aren't exactly through the roof yet. There is still more sales in DDR than there is in DDR3 About 12% for DDR3 and about 15% for DDR. DDR2 is way out in front with around 70% of the sales at the moment! DDR3 started climbing the charts in early May!
Source: http://www.canardplus.com/statscpuz-ram-en.html

Best Regards,
Russ

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The 1333 is only for DDR2!
you lose me there Russ..i thought 1333 was ddr3 only..

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you lose me there Russ..i thought 1333 was ddr3 only..
yeah he missed typed 1333MHz is DDR3




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ZoSoIV,
Sorry, I meant for Nehalem! Only DDR3800 and DDR31066!

Fudzilla has already mentioned the fact that for some reason you need to run memory CPU voltage synchronously which might be an overclocker's worst nightmare. At this current stage you cannot go over 1.65V and some memories such as DDR3 1600 or DDR3 2000 might need a bit more than that. With more than 1.65 you will kill any current Nehalem CPU.

I guess that's why so much of the DDR3 1066 memory is 1.5 to 1.65v!

Best Regards,
Russ


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right on Russ i haven't done the benchmarks yet with Sandra but i will soon and post or email to ya




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ok Russ that voltage is ok drr3800 & drr31066 but what about the ddr3 1333 PC3 10600 voltage..ic Super Talent has some at 1.8v reviews is'nt that good on that type brand all yea more volts more heat also..lol and would'en depend on the mb the OCZ Platinum 2GB ddr2 1066 is rated at 2.1V - 2.3V...


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ok Russ that voltage is ok drr3800 & drr31066 but what about the ddr3 1333 PC3 10600 voltage..ic Super Talent has some at 1.8v reviews is'nt that good on that type all yea more volts more heat also..lol

It may be fine for everything through X48, but you can't use it on i7 (Nehalem) Because the memory controller is on chip and can't handle more than 1.65v without damaging the CPU. That doesn't bode well for overclocking an i7!

For the high price of DDR3/1600 and DDR3/2000 it's going to be difficult, as unless the voltage is below 1.65v, it will blow the CPU! Maybe this is intel's way of saying we don't approve of overclocking! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

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