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Transformers 2 - Revenge Of The Fallen
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akalurimd
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24. October 2009 @ 11:13 |
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DVD Fab directions for Transformers 2 is probably the easiest, thanks paschal93
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H.P.I
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24. October 2009 @ 11:50 |
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ONE thing i notice in regards to the " Thransformers 2" disk is that the data side does not physically look like the normal disk. In that it looks more swirly (if there is such a word).
That "difference in face" may be the real reason that nothing i have ysed thus far works.
The only other time i have seen a dvd face look like that was on the
"Terminator - Sarah Jessica Parker Chronicals Season 1 disk 1". Only the #1 disk has a data face that almost looks like oil on water. As to why disk 1 and not the other 2 disks is ?.
Several comments have been made as to several people doing it one way and someone else another and it does seem that far too much effort is wasted in brow beating each other about how they did it. Man it really doesnt make any difference as to how someone did it as long as they got a good copy made. Plus not everyone has a dozen diff programs to use so one uses what one has and hopes for the best and if what he has doesnt do the job then he comes to places like this to ask about "How do I do this"
Its like taking a trip. If one starts out in Jacksonville Florida and goes to Dallas Via Chicago what diff does it make... If he had a good trip and maybe learned something along the way just as long as he arrived at his destination...
For myself.... I have always known that there is more than one way to skin a cat but these Forums really reinforce that belief.
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24. October 2009 @ 12:52 |
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Originally posted by H.P.I: ONE thing i notice in regards to the " Thransformers 2" disk is that the data side does not physically look like the normal disk. In that it looks more swirly (if there is such a word).
That "difference in face" may be the real reason that nothing i have ysed thus far works.
The only other time i have seen a dvd face look like that was on the
"Terminator - Sarah Jessica Parker Chronicals Season 1 disk 1". Only the #1 disk has a data face that almost looks like oil on water. As to why disk 1 and not the other 2 disks is ?.
Several comments have been made as to several people doing it one way and someone else another and it does seem that far too much effort is wasted in brow beating each other about how they did it. Man it really doesnt make any difference as to how someone did it as long as they got a good copy made. Plus not everyone has a dozen diff programs to use so one uses what one has and hopes for the best and if what he has doesnt do the job then he comes to places like this to ask about "How do I do this"
Its like taking a trip. If one starts out in Jacksonville Florida and goes to Dallas Via Chicago what diff does it make... If he had a good trip and maybe learned something along the way just as long as he arrived at his destination...
For myself.... I have always known that there is more than one way to skin a cat but these Forums really reinforce that belief.
I have seen all sorts of imperfections on discs. Including the type you speak of. Never had a problem backing them up. In fact, I've had DVD-R's that look similar but burned OK. Wouldn't trust them for Data archival, but for home movies no problem. For my important backups I use my lite-on drives. They show to be the best reader/rippers i've ever had. iHAP/iHAS drives not being quite as good, but reasonable. In fact one of the lite-on drives has seen some pretty ugly looking discs. Its only encountered a couple out of several hundred that it couldnt read. Long live Lite-on LOL! It will be my first BD ROM/player...
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question!
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mcmenace
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24. October 2009 @ 16:07 |
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Originally posted by ferguj1: Originally posted by mcmenace: Originally posted by mcmenacec: YW
Just trying to help.
No different than any other back-up with fox/sheep combo.
Ah, you misunderstand my sarcasm.
Really?? How so?
By not paying any attention to it?
People like yourself come and go. Your mouth eventually gets you into trouble, seen it happen over and over. You seem to be a candidate.
Quote: You've got two options here:
1. Rip it to your HDD. Right click the fox head icon on your tray and select the option to rip to HDD.
2. Run CloneDVD or Dvd Shrink with anyDVD running in the background. Dvd Shrink is going to work best in re-author mode using title set 47.
Now that you managed to put the files on the HDD, what next??
OH run clonedvd. Need to do that in the first place and be done with it.
Did you tell him about the line at bottom of page 2?? With this movie you can't just go next, next go (which you didnt even mention) as it takes more time for bar to go to 100% on page 2 probably due to extra protection. Almost caught me.
Could be the whole problem right there. Go too fast, all data not read by sheep.
If you took the time to read my post instead of conjuring up your witty sarcasm comments, you would immediately see I said NOT to rip ANYTHING to HDD.
Why would anybody that has the fox/sheep combo want to rip anything anywhere anyway?? They go through that movie just like any other one. I told him how to get it backed up to blank DVD, not park it on the hard drive. You also forgot? to tell him what to do with all those GB's ripped to and sitting there.
If the poor guy can't get it with anydvd/clonedvd2 he sure as heck isnt going to get it with dvdshrink. Other issues obviously at play.
mcm
You are going to tell someone with well over 2500 posts of helping people, that they come and go? If anyone's mouth is overloading their ass, it would be you. This is a forum for helping others, which implies that YOUR attitude is best left at the door. So if you are here to help that is great and I am sure all will appreciate what you can offer, but if you only here to try and put down others methods and recommendations (of which have been tested and proven time and time again) perhaps you should find something else to pass your time.
What are you talking about? What attitude?? I offered my help here, in detail, apparently you didnt bother taking the time to read the thread. Somebody decided to throw sacasm at me, which I ignored until he had to throw out a dig. I knew transformers would be a problem so I stopped by to help, as I have been doing for years. Number of posts does not equal level of knowledge or anything else.
You had better take a look at who put down who first. C'mon I came here, gave a detailed sure-fire back-up method and got attacked once sarcastically, now with outright rudeness. 7thsinger gave an intelligent response to my response, which I respect him for.
Only problem with his solution is if the guy cant do a direct backup, why send him into the unknown?? By having him rip movies to hdd and not at very least telling him to delete them after or, even telling him how to do the backup Rip it to hdd run clonedvd or shrink is not explaining much to a guy that can't do a fox/sheep straight backup and is a sure fire way to have a full hdd and wonder what happened. I explained what to do in detail, again, apparently you didnt bother reading it.
What business is our difference of opinion to you anyway?? We are quite capable of settling our disagreements as adults, as we have already demonstrated. No need to jump in using foul language and pounding your chest, trying to make something out of nothing.
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david45
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24. October 2009 @ 22:27 |
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try using dvd43 and click1 copy software and the latest dvd43 version i made a perfect copy good luck
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24. October 2009 @ 22:40 |
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Originally posted by david45: try using dvd43 and click1 copy software and the latest dvd43 version i made a perfect copy good luck
^^^^^^^^^^ this software would be the last/worst choice someone could make to backup this movie! lol
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ccimage
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25. October 2009 @ 02:39 |
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Newest guy here.
AnyDVD works (21 day trial)
Then Shrink. It will just give you #47 (only option)
Then Img Burn.
Full movie no problems.
If it doesn't work it is your PC.
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ccimage
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25. October 2009 @ 02:55 |
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Originally posted by ccimage: Newest guy here.
AnyDVD works (21 day trial)
buThen Shrink. It will just give you #47 (only option)
Then Img Burn.
Full movie no problems.
If it doesn't work it is your PC.
Burn the planet. But I am a total DVDFab fan!!!! Fentago we need you!!
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tahoe1931
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25. October 2009 @ 10:18 |
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Nothing worked for me, I tried them all, I finally did it the hard way using SPAM, played Trans 2rotf on a dvd player and copyied on hard drive and let SPAM do the rest, burned on a dvd +dl verbatum disk. It took about 7 hours.
Thought you people might enjoy my porky pie of a story.
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HARRENT
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25. October 2009 @ 10:26 |
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if you look back a ways you will see that I had ALL sorts of trouble trying anything (have AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 and using pretty new Quad core machine)--my friend suggested trying my HP dv6000 (3 yrs old Core2 Quad) which had, of course, a different burner in it---it worked just fine doing it the normal way w/o doing any "ripping to HDD"/or any other "extra steps" ?????I call them "digital mysteries"
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Level15
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25. October 2009 @ 19:08 |
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Hey Guys, having a small problem. followed the directions on the most popular way to back up Transformer.
2. Boot dvdfab and goto settings and then pathplayer and disable it.
3. put disk in and select main movie.
4. when all the movies pop up select title 47
5. you might get errors but just hit ignore all and keep ignoring them.
6. hit the next button when it pops up (might take bit)
7. it should eventually start ripping
When I try to burn movie using Nero, file to large and tried to use shrink but movie wont show up. I can see the movie on HDD and can play it from there. Cant seem to get it over to Disc. I cant use anydvd, trial expired. What program can I use thats free.
Thanks Guys.
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rapwaton2
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25. October 2009 @ 20:48 |
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Transformers 2 ROTF - I've tried a number of the ideas here with what software I use and I think I have it. I used Ripit4me, Imgburn, older DVDfab's like Express, 3, v5.0.3.2 and others but no luck.
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DVDfab v6.1.2.0 with pathplayer OFF then choose Customize and go to Chapter 47 and proceed to rip. IGNORE ALL ERRORS
DO NOT USE VOBlanker after it's complete because it will give you problems with VOB's 2-14 since they copy fine and VOB 1 is the problem with sound!!!
DVDfab Customize grabs all the VOB_0 files for chapters 2-14 that contain all the sound files in VOB_8_1.
Once DVDfab rips the DVD go to DVD Shrink and put it back to a new DVD.
I noticed when I put the DVD in my PC ram.cfm" class="forum_link" target="_blank">DVD-RAM there were issues, but that could have been due to the Pathplayer, but I also have a DVD-ROM/cd-rw and it sees everything. Luckily, I just got a new DVD player that reads DVD-RW so I don't waste DVD's when testing problem movies like Transformers 2.
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greayagh
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26. October 2009 @ 00:32 |
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Originally posted by ccimage: Newest guy here.
AnyDVD works (21 day trial)
Then Shrink. It will just give you #47 (only option)
Then Img Burn.
Full movie no problems.
If it doesn't work it is your PC.
That's right after you open clone dvd 2 and select the folder that you previously ripped to your HD with anydvd it shows that only title 47 has the big data and then the other small ones are the menus, the rest it shows empty, man anydvd is awesome, I am a dvdfab guy but I have both software just in case, so I strongly recommend you guys to have both.
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mcmenace
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26. October 2009 @ 02:19 |
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Originally posted by HARRENT: if you look back a ways you will see that I had ALL sorts of trouble trying anything (have AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 and using pretty new Quad core machine)--my friend suggested trying my HP dv6000 (3 yrs old Core2 Quad) which had, of course, a different burner in it---it worked just fine doing it the normal way w/o doing any "ripping to HDD"/or any other "extra steps" ?????I call them "digital mysteries"
I have AMD Phenom 2 quad based home-made PC. Fox/Sheep backed Xformers up like any other movie. Fox removes protection Sheep basically along for the ride. HOWEVER, as I mentioned previously backing up most movies with that winning combo is simplicity personified. But in this case it could possibly be the cause of problems, on the second screen there is a bar on the bottom. Normally you just select the movie and / or menu on first screen, then click next, next go wirhout giving it a second thought. Here you have to keep an eye on the 2nd screen bar and wait until it goes to 100% before going on to the next screen because all the protection schemes slows it down. Since it's typically choose on first screen then click next, next, go, if you hit first next before it has time to read 100% of the original, you aren't likely to get a good back-up as you possibly clicked next before all info was read. It usually goes so fast, you don't even think about it, however, in a case like this, I watched it go real sloooow and almost clicked next before it was @100%. That small overlook will prevent a copy, as all info not read. Have no idea what type, if any, error message will show, but thats just a case of common sense, and very easy to overlook. I'm guilty of that. Screen 1 select, then next, next and go, without a second thought or even looking at the bar because it goes so fast. Again, in this case or others similar down the road, keep an eye on the bar on screen 2 and give it time to reach 100% before moving on to next screen. No reason other than an overlook such as that fox/sheep won't give you a quality back-up, first time, no coasters, no muss, no fuss.
I hope this helped, or at least got you thinking little overlooks like that are enough to prevent a back-up.
BTW, It just occured to me you said you used a different burner and got it normally. Perhaps the burner in your new machine is having problems, might want to swap them out and see if that was the problem or "digital mystey" In YEARS of backing up movies, ripping anything to HDD has NEVER been a benefit. The only way it could is if you indeed had a bad burner, and would read data from HDD but not Burner. If thats the case, get a new burner, don't waste time ripping to HDD and possibly forgetting to delete them etc. If anydvd.latest, clonedvd2.latest wont back-up Xformers or ANY other movie,there are other issues at play.
Best of Luck.
mcm
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26. October 2009 @ 07:56 |
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Originally posted by Grampaw: Thanks for explaining which Titleset I'm looking for using DVDFab. The Standard DVD only has the movie so you're not missing anything with no menu. I'll give the recommended DVDFab method a try tonight when I get home from work.
I was playing around using RipIt4Me/Imgburn last night, which does rip/burn the main movie with no problem, but all the scenes are out of order (probably wrong titleset). I might look closer at that approach tonight to see if I can snag the correct titleset - I love playing with problem DVDs!
Usually I just come to this forum, and 99% of the time there are enough clues to figure out how to do a backup using some combination of readily available tools.
I find something new:
Just forget RipIt4me all togethet. Run Transformers 2 using DVD Decrypter "Only".....It will rip it and burn it.
Open DVD Decrypter and click on "Mode" and tick "IFO I" this will start it "as a Ripper". Ignore all Read Errors and right after....it will rip the whole Movie in about 15 Minutes and when is done......you can select your Audio and Subpicture you like before you burn it. using "Stream Processing".
After that will ask you for the Blank Disk (A Dobble Layer is a better choose) to burn -8,229MB.
1 Program....1 Shot!!!
Good Luck !!!
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26. October 2009 @ 08:20 |
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Originally posted by HARRENT: if you look back a ways you will see that I had ALL sorts of trouble trying anything (have AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 and using pretty new Quad core machine)--my friend suggested trying my HP dv6000 (3 yrs old Core2 Quad) which had, of course, a different burner in it---it worked just fine doing it the normal way w/o doing any "ripping to HDD"/or any other "extra steps" ?????I call them "digital mysteries"
Hope I am right:
"Digital Mysteries" are blame on part to the diff Optical Drivers on the diff PC's we use, since they are finicky.....That's why "We The People" have diff problems on diff ways.
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26. October 2009 @ 08:46 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss: Originally posted by HARRENT: if you look back a ways you will see that I had ALL sorts of trouble trying anything (have AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 and using pretty new Quad core machine)--my friend suggested trying my HP dv6000 (3 yrs old Core2 Quad) which had, of course, a different burner in it---it worked just fine doing it the normal way w/o doing any "ripping to HDD"/or any other "extra steps" ?????I call them "digital mysteries"
Hope I am right:
"Digital Mysteries" are blame on part to the diff Optical Drivers on the diff PC's we use, since they are finicky.....That's why "We The People" have diff problems on diff ways.
I mean: "Optical Drives"
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HARRENT
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26. October 2009 @ 10:02 |
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hey thanks---this is the only time it happened and then did "The Proposal" with no problem at all so we'll have to see about it. ONLY other time that Slysoft support actually TOLD me to rip to HDD was when trying to make copies of dvd's I had burned from my Series 2 Humax (the greatest) TiVo's with their integrated dvd burners. For some reason (probably in accordance with some agreement at that time) these dvd's would not copy but the ripping etc worked just fine. Thanks again ---
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26. October 2009 @ 10:56 |
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Originally posted by HARRENT: hey thanks---this is the only time it happened and then did "The Proposal" with no problem at all so we'll have to see about it. ONLY other time that Slysoft support actually TOLD me to rip to HDD was when trying to make copies of dvd's I had burned from my Series 2 Humax (the greatest) TiVo's with their integrated dvd burners. For some reason (probably in accordance with some agreement at that time) these dvd's would not copy but the ripping etc worked just fine. Thanks again ---
YW n GL !
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areamike
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26. October 2009 @ 11:06 |
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UPDATE to my success.
I was able to rip the entire movie and menus with latest AnyDVD to my HD. I then used DVD FAB to write the files to a Dual Layer disc and it burned PREFECTLY.
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26. October 2009 @ 18:56 |
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26. October 2009 @ 20:38 |
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Originally posted by z28guy: Everytime I opened Transformers 2 with DVD Decrypter it showed the same files 11 times.
It show the same files 11 times, 'cos they are 11 "Title Angles" in the Movie that have the correct configuration as the Original Movie.
Title Angles #'s are: 4,9,17,23,34,42,50,57,64,72 n 83 and DVD Decrypter is picking and taking diff and the right chapters "ONLY" from all of them !!!
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peterk727
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27. October 2009 @ 10:13 |
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I got it to work. Check the region on your DVD. If it is set to none, it confuses AnyDVD. Set it to your region, in the US its Region 1. You set this inside properties for the DVD itself. Once you do this, AnyDVD will read the Transformers DVD and remove all the protection. SIMPLE!! And it works. Why a Region of NONE confuses AnyDVD with this new DVD I do not know. But this is the easiest workaround. Besides AnyDVD will remove the region code on any other DVDs, so setting the region as it should be is a non-issue.
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27. October 2009 @ 12:31 |
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Dvd Fab has now been updated to handle new protection found in transformers 2 version 6.1.2.5...
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