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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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4. August 2012 @ 14:42 |
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Originally posted by sytyguy:
Are you sure it isn't the CPU Cooler that's at fault? If you can get into the BIOS, see if it will give you a temperature reading for the CPU.
Figures! Whenever I look for a problem, it won't present itself. Now it acts rock solid! Now I'm looking quite sharply at the PSU. They can be quite inconsistent at times. Certainly the cheap ones(which it is).
I did one better. I ran Prime 95 for nearly 20 min. The CPU hovered around 42C, the northbridge even cooler(it has a tiny fan equipped). The voltage reading stayed between 11.8 and 11.9V during the testing. Using both everest, and a Voltage meter.
It's an Asus A8N-SLI. With a single core 3200 Athlon. It also has an Evga Geforce 7800. This build is quite outdated. XP, 1Gb Memory. The board supposedly supports dual cores. But I'll probably just sell it as is, at the upcoming yard sale. If I can get it to run solid for a few hours, I may just be comfortable selling it LOL!
Oddly, the hard drive was the highest temp! At one time, it read 54C! According to Smart, it seen even higher temps...
So with a replacement HDD, and PSU, it could be a decent computer for somebody.
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4. August 2012 @ 15:24 |
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Originally posted by Theebs:
so I was asked to post my questions on my build here.....Here it is.....
Hi, Guys its time for me to build a new computer and I just want to double check everything here as I always have before building.
I have an existing computer which I built in 08 that I am going to just take out the mobo, cpu, ram, gpu and main drive. Blu ray drive, 5 other hard drives for storage will stay the same.
So here is what I am thinking, let me know if this is overkill or if there is a better alternative. I am kind of confused as to where the state of graphics cards are and which ati card competes with the gtx 570.
here is what I do with the computer, general surfing, uploading pictures, photohoshop, mild gaming...son plays minecraft, and I record Football games and tv programs via a hauppauge tv tuner card using beyond tv and video redo to encode taking out the commercials. So the most stressfull thing I do with the computer is record and encode HD..I encode mpeg2 HD clips to H.264 files and am looking for something faster than my q9650 cpu currently.
so again, any advice is welcome. Am I overspending on the board and graphics card? is there a better cpu for me, an i7 ivy maybe? and if everything here is a good fit just to double check it will all jive nicely right? thanks in advance.
here is a youtube page of mine showing how I put up clips in h.264
http://www.youtube.com/user/Stadium229?feature=mhee
Windows 7 64bit
MOBO---Most confused here this time, cant determine what is overkill and what is not.
Asus Sabertooth z77 lga 1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821
http://www.frys.com/product/7028831?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
CPU
INTEl core I5 2500K Sandy bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
http://www.frys.com/product/6487382?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
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EVGA GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595
http://www.frys.com/product/6480902?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
RAM
Corsair Vengance 16GB 4x4 ddr3 pc3 12800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145347
http://www.frys.com/product/6718235?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
and Finally I am replacing my 6 year old happauge tv tuner with a new happauge tv tuner
Hauppauge wintv hvr 2250 dual tuner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...Tab=true&Page=3
http://www.frys.com/product/5910254?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
I would go with a GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H over the Asus sabertooth and a non-k edition if you do not plan to overclock. If you plan to overclock I would probably go with a GA-Z77X-UD5H instead (and a k-edition cpu of course). You may also want to consider getting an ivy bridge cpu instead of sandy bridge since the prices are still quite close.
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Theebs
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4. August 2012 @ 15:45 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by Theebs:
so I was asked to post my questions on my build here.....Here it is.....
Hi, Guys its time for me to build a new computer and I just want to double check everything here as I always have before building.
I have an existing computer which I built in 08 that I am going to just take out the mobo, cpu, ram, gpu and main drive. Blu ray drive, 5 other hard drives for storage will stay the same.
So here is what I am thinking, let me know if this is overkill or if there is a better alternative. I am kind of confused as to where the state of graphics cards are and which ati card competes with the gtx 570.
here is what I do with the computer, general surfing, uploading pictures, photohoshop, mild gaming...son plays minecraft, and I record Football games and tv programs via a hauppauge tv tuner card using beyond tv and video redo to encode taking out the commercials. So the most stressfull thing I do with the computer is record and encode HD..I encode mpeg2 HD clips to H.264 files and am looking for something faster than my q9650 cpu currently.
so again, any advice is welcome. Am I overspending on the board and graphics card? is there a better cpu for me, an i7 ivy maybe? and if everything here is a good fit just to double check it will all jive nicely right? thanks in advance.
here is a youtube page of mine showing how I put up clips in h.264
http://www.youtube.com/user/Stadium229?feature=mhee
Windows 7 64bit
MOBO---Most confused here this time, cant determine what is overkill and what is not.
Asus Sabertooth z77 lga 1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821
http://www.frys.com/product/7028831?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
CPU
INTEl core I5 2500K Sandy bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
http://www.frys.com/product/6487382?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
GPU
EVGA GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595
http://www.frys.com/product/6480902?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
RAM
Corsair Vengance 16GB 4x4 ddr3 pc3 12800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145347
http://www.frys.com/product/6718235?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
and Finally I am replacing my 6 year old happauge tv tuner with a new happauge tv tuner
Hauppauge wintv hvr 2250 dual tuner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...Tab=true&Page=3
http://www.frys.com/product/5910254?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
I would go with a GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H over the Asus sabertooth and a non-k edition if you do not plan to overclock. If you plan to overclock I would probably go with a GA-Z77X-UD5H instead (and a k-edition cpu of course). You may also want to consider getting an ivy bridge cpu instead of sandy bridge since the prices are still quite close.
thanks.
I was thinking an i7 ivy bridge might be a good fit. I am not going to overclock.
Memory still ok with that board? Is the gtx 570 overkill?
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Theebs
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4. August 2012 @ 16:25 |
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4. August 2012 @ 17:03 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well yeah it certainly wouldn't be a portable affair, but then my current server isn't exactly easy to lug around, it's just that it's small enough to carry.
It's going to be a long time before I have any need for something on quite this scale, but this is the sort of thing that really got me interested. I could find a use for a lot of this stuff I had the room for it, and could afford it :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL0xC7H7naY&feature=related
Nice server rack and laid out well. I also like that he has a terminal server too.
Sweet!
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4. August 2012 @ 17:25 |
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Financial situation has improved a bit as of today :)
assuming they still have any, will likely order one of these next week:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V4QIB4iBd8
In time, I will accompany it with a proper HBA that has 8087 sockets on it to save using a mess of reverse breakout cables. Depending how well the stock fans work I can see them being changed for quieter versions.
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4. August 2012 @ 20:22 |
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4. August 2012 @ 20:24 |
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Ha! Wish I could oblige. I haven't been working the second job for weeks. And I'm only getting a small paycheck next week :( SHould be picking up soon though.
I don't think I'll ever have the need for server equipment :p
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4. August 2012 @ 20:37 |
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With that case you could use a normal ATX MB and PSU to setup a media center system with tons of space or just a heavy duty gaming machine for that matter. You're unlimited pretty much on what you can do with it and it's cheap.
I would love to have this as a server, it would be perfect for my house.
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Red_Maw
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4. August 2012 @ 21:20 |
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Originally posted by Theebs:
Howbout this setup
Gigabyte GA Z77x -ud5h
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128545
Intel i5 3750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
or would an i 7 be better?
along with the corsair vengance 16 gb ram and gtx 570 gpu....Still confused on what is overkill and what is not on the gpu.
The main difference between an i7 and i5 is the HyperThreading on the i7s which gives them 4 more threads than the i5s. Based on the activities you mentioned in your first post, the main performance difference you will notice between an i5 and i7 would be in encoding times depending on if and how well your encoder is able to take advantage of the extra threads. I don't do any encoding so I can't give you any idea as to how much faster it will be, if at all.
The corsair ram should be fine, and there really isn't an "overkill" point with single gpu cards as long as you plan use it to play non-trivial games. I think a GTX 570 should be able to handle most current/new games at high graphics settings, however you can always check some benchmarks and pick one in the performance range you are looking for.
edit: fixed gpu performance estimate
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4. August 2012 @ 21:22 |
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My GTX 570 plays games quite respectively :p But I don't have any cutting edge games :( Just the ones I like :p
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5. August 2012 @ 07:10 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
With that case you could use a normal ATX MB and PSU to setup a media center system with tons of space or just a heavy duty gaming machine for that matter. You're unlimited pretty much on what you can do with it and it's cheap.
I would love to have this as a server, it would be perfect for my house.
This I believe would be the rough US equivalent:
http://rackmountmart.stores.yahoo.net/newrm4030.html
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5. August 2012 @ 09:54 |
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The GTX570 is rather powerful and is capable of playing most new games at high or max settings at reasonable resolutions.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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5. August 2012 @ 10:42 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
With that case you could use a normal ATX MB and PSU to setup a media center system with tons of space or just a heavy duty gaming machine for that matter. You're unlimited pretty much on what you can do with it and it's cheap.
I would love to have this as a server, it would be perfect for my house.
This I believe would be the rough US equivalent:
http://rackmountmart.stores.yahoo.net/newrm4030.html
That is nice too but the X-Case has 120mm fans instead of 80mm and would be much quieter but the price is right and same layout otherwise.
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5. August 2012 @ 10:44 |
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Yeah, It's actually the same unit, manufactured by Norco. The version Xcase are selling is newer though as they did sell the 80mm blue version previously. I can't tell whether it's a newer version the US store doesn't have or one that they've modified themselves. Either way, the use of 120mm fans is welcome.
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5. August 2012 @ 17:42 |
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Ahhh all this is rather tempting. Am very interested in getting one of those multi-drive chassis but I currently only have 4 drives in my storage box and another 5 in various places.
Have often talked about a Raid 1 setup using WD 1TB Greens. Rather expensive proposition but the fact stands that I need more storage. At the very least I might be adding another WD Green 1TB to my array soon.
Already am at the point where digging out the old Thermaltake Armor and getting some drive bay adapters might actually be beneficial. If that old case has anything it's drive space, lol.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133154
It is truly a tank, but sadly not the most up to date case anymore. Think of it as an ancient HAF, lol. Sadly not very suited for Crossfire due to its layout, which is what led to my purchase of the HAF to begin with.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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5. August 2012 @ 17:54 |
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You have to be careful with using WD Greens with RAID controllers due to the head parking procedure occasionally creating false 'drive offline' positives. I've yet to see how the new Caviar Red drives fare in the same situation - they're designed for home NAS use but not enterprise servers. That could just be a MTBF/thermal/vibration resistance issue, or it could also be representative of the controller circuitry suitability with RAID cards. Since most home NAS units use basic RAID or JBOD you'd expect them to handle RAID, but to what extent?
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5. August 2012 @ 18:31 |
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Absolutely you would have to disable the energy saving feature of the Green drives or your RAID will/might corrupt.
Also with those 4U servers Sam linked to you could have one SAS array designated to a backup system and the other could be your operating storage which could start with a few drives and be expanded as you go.
There are tons of options with these 4U units, I'm seriously thinking about getting one.
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7. August 2012 @ 15:57 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Ahhh all this is rather tempting. Am very interested in getting one of those multi-drive chassis but I currently only have 4 drives in my storage box and another 5 in various places.
Have often talked about a Raid 1 setup using WD 1TB Greens. Rather expensive proposition but the fact stands that I need more storage. At the very least I might be adding another WD Green 1TB to my array soon.
If capacity is such a problem, then why not get 2TB drives? At least on Newegg, many 2TB drives are only somewhat more expensive than 1TB drives of the same (or at least a similar) line.
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7. August 2012 @ 15:58 |
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With current disk prices, 1TB drives are very much a false economy. $95 for 1TB and $120 for 2TB, the latter is a no-brainer. In the UK, as far as WD are concerned, 3TB drives are actually the cheapest per-GB at the moment.
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8. August 2012 @ 00:40 |
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interesting that the topic turns to storage. i have used 4x1TB in RAID5 for the last few years. i am thinking of upping disks to 2 or 3TB. last time i migrated to new disks, i had enough external storage to backup data, install the new disks and reload data onto new array. this time i dont have enough extra storage to offload data, and i'm not sure how to go about this migration. i'm a networking guy not a RAID guy so any ideas or links to information would be appreciated
TIA
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8. August 2012 @ 02:43 |
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This was the biggest problem I had, not using RAID made it a fair bit easier. There isn't really a short answer, a lot the people I know that have rebuilt into new arrays have borrowed free space in other people's larger arrays to swap the data around!
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8. August 2012 @ 07:43 |
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I'm pretty sure that's the answer...Now that i'm home from my day job (can you still call your primary source of income "day job" when you work the night shift?) i looked at my situation closer. with my external disks+ empty space on wifes machine, HTPC and an unused laptop, i should manage to offload everything.
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8. August 2012 @ 07:57 |
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I'm sort of split on getting 2TB drives ATM. Not that I can't use them, but I'm not sure how much I should be willing to spend at this point. Is very tempting though, and I wouldn't need to add storage so often. Not that I add storage very often right now, lol. I haven't looked at drive prices much since the flooding caused the artificial price jumps. Last time I bought drives the 1TB Greens were about $70 and my WD1001FALS was $80.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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8. August 2012 @ 08:01 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I'm sort of split on getting 2TB drives ATM. Not that I can't use them, but I'm not sure how much I should be willing to spend at this point. Is very tempting though, and I wouldn't need to add storage so often. Not that I add storage very often right now, lol. I haven't looked at drive prices much since the flooding caused the artificial price jumps. Last time I bought drives the 1TB Greens were about $70 and my WD1001FALS was $80.
Well, 2TB drives are only slightly more expensive than 1TB drives, so it's not like you're breaking the bank with them.
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