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Originally posted by FredBun:
Originally posted by sytyguy:
Originally posted by FredBun:
I don't care if it's a bunch of 2 terabytes drives as many movies as I collect your gonna run out of space quick, and paying for hardrives is a lot more expensive than buying disc's.
Not necessarily true. Newegg and Tigerdirect both have 2TB HDD's for $79. I have 313 DVD and Blu-ray movies on one 2TB drive, and still have 85GB free. Do the math HDD's are cheaper than DVD discs, unless one gets a HUGE discount.
LOL, nice try syt but I'm way past that, I already have almost 7000 movies on disc's so you do the math on cost, I would need to build another room or garage to hold hardrives with that many movies.
How many of these are high definition?

Standard definition movies are usually ripped to 1CD or 2CD size, so 700MB or 1400MB apiece, depending on duration and source quality. In this format, one 4TB hard disk can hold 2500-5500 movies, so for a 7000 movie collection you'd need three of them in worst case.

HD movies, depending on whether 720p or 1080p, and again, source quality and duration, vary from 4GB to about 18GB. The average, assuming you go for 1080p where viable, is perhaps 9-10GB per movie. 7000 files in this format would be an impressive 70TB. This seems like an astronomical amount, and it wouldn't be cheap, but as it stands, my file server case with its current disk controller would fit 80TB if I maxed it out with 4TB drives, and it's actually smaller than the HAF932 my gaming PC sits in next to it. The case & disk controller together are worth about $1000, and 4TB disks are about $180 each, so all in you'd need about $5000 to build a system like that from scratch. Still, this assumes all 7000 of your HD movies are in high definition, and even then, it still fits in a single box no larger than most PCs.



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Mr. Movies_That isn't actually true as just the other day I didn't have my computer linked to the internet and Anydvd wasn't able to rip my movie sating it couldn't rip the disc until I connected to the internet and all was fine then.

OK, Steve I really can't argue much when it comes to computers with you because your knowledge on PC's is way over mine, here is what I just did, I disconnected my Ethernet cable so now do not have any Internet access, I went over and got one of my store bought DVD movies, started the process with clone and anydvd to make a copy, all went thru with no problem, I made a tempo copy on a DVD_RW just to see how things worked, all went well, and of course to get updates you do need to be on the Internet, I use to make copies when I was in England using my nieces laptop using clone and anydvd and she had no Internet, so now were do we go from here lol.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Originally posted by FredBun:
Originally posted by sytyguy:
Originally posted by FredBun:
I don't care if it's a bunch of 2 terabytes drives as many movies as I collect your gonna run out of space quick, and paying for hardrives is a lot more expensive than buying disc's.
Not necessarily true. Newegg and Tigerdirect both have 2TB HDD's for $79. I have 313 DVD and Blu-ray movies on one 2TB drive, and still have 85GB free. Do the math HDD's are cheaper than DVD discs, unless one gets a HUGE discount.
LOL, nice try syt but I'm way past that, I already have almost 7000 movies on disc's so you do the math on cost, I would need to build another room or garage to hold hardrives with that many movies.
How many of these are high definition?

Standard definition movies are usually ripped to 1CD or 2CD size, so 700MB or 1400MB apiece, depending on duration and source quality. In this format, one 4TB hard disk can hold 2500-5500 movies, so for a 7000 movie collection you'd need three of them in worst case.

HD movies, depending on whether 720p or 1080p, and again, source quality and duration, vary from 4GB to about 18GB. The average, assuming you go for 1080p where viable, is perhaps 9-10GB per movie. 7000 files in this format would be an impressive 70TB. This seems like an astronomical amount, and it wouldn't be cheap, but as it stands, my file server case with its current disk controller would fit 80TB if I maxed it out with 4TB drives, and it's actually smaller than the HAF932 my gaming PC sits in next to it. The case & disk controller together are worth about $1000, and 4TB disks are about $180 each, so all in you'd need about $5000 to build a system like that from scratch. Still, this assumes all 7000 of your HD movies are in high definition, and even then, it still fits in a single box no larger than most PCs.
I will not argue that point because you are right with your figures, first I know nothing about things like servers, now on average my movies are around 4gigs some times more and not often less than, I will not even attempt to copy a movie less than 3, most of the time when I buy my disc's when I search hard enough are on average 20 bucks for a 100 DVD+R's, verbs or ty's even though lately getting them at that price had become much harder, now even if I start paying 30 bucks for a 100 that's still a lot cheaper than what you are saying, I would love to go the route you are talking about, that would save me tons of time, but you need to remember this, and I mentioned this before during these discussions about disc's and hardrives, my kids, friends or neighbors just come on up to my collection and grab a movie, they watch it in the convenience of their room or home and bring it back when done, now on your system you can't do that unless my kids neighbors or friends stay with me in my whatever room to watch it thru hardrives or servers, now I don't want them up my behind bothering me watching a movie so to speak lol, but for the way you do things mostly on your own or maybe occasionally have a friend watching with you that's great, I don't just collect these movies for myself, I do it much more for my family and or friends, when they come back and with a big smile they say Fred or Dad that was a great movie thank you, that's what make it's all worth it for me.

Now when Syt told me about this WD Live thing that really sounds interesting to me, all that said most of you have done away with disc's, in the past I always disagreed, I will probably still keep using disc's but I think it's time for me to get on with the future and start doing what you guys do, as soon as I find out more about docking stations, movies on sticks WD Live etc. I will have to do something because I know in the future the disc situation just might disappear, at 65 I am not worrying about to far into the future but there is big talk already everywhere I read that disc's are becoming a thing of the past and soon.
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Server this may be by role, but in practice literally all it is, is a standard Windows 8 PC running inside a case that, while 4U-compliant in shape, takes normal ATX parts. The CPU, motherboard etc. inside it came from my old gaming PC once upon a time, it's a Q9550 and X48-DS4 running in there with a standard HD4830 graphics card.

I haven't used Windows Server as when this system was first configured it used to also be used periodically as a workstation, for things Windows Server doesn't support as well.

I take the point about having a DVD to throw in whatever device each person has to hand in their room, for me, the only place this content really gets watched is in my bedroom on my PC monitor. Back when this server was sitting in a student house it was shared across the network, and all people had to do to get access was go to \\servername\sharename in windows to access the files, which they can of course mount as a drive if they wish, e.g. X:
This is actually how I access the content myself since I no longer connect my monitor directly to the server.

I have nonetheless been looking at getting an external playback device for the TV downstairs in the living room so my parents can watch content that I've collected - it's just a question of how I get the data down there on an 'on-demand' basis. In practice this may well mean trunking a cable to the staircase unless the wireless signal down there is very good. Then of course there's the hurdle of the TV being quite old, so it only has VGA, no HDMI.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Server this may be by role, but in practice literally all it is, is a standard Windows 8 PC running inside a case that, while 4U-compliant in shape, takes normal ATX parts. The CPU, motherboard etc. inside it came from my old gaming PC once upon a time, it's a Q9550 and X48-DS4 running in there with a standard HD4830 graphics card.

I haven't used Windows Server as when this system was first configured it used to also be used periodically as a workstation, for things Windows Server doesn't support as well.

I take the point about having a DVD to throw in whatever device each person has to hand in their room, for me, the only place this content really gets watched is in my bedroom on my PC monitor. Back when this server was sitting in a student house it was shared across the network, and all people had to do to get access was go to \\servername\sharename in windows to access the files, which they can of course mount as a drive if they wish, e.g. X:
This is actually how I access the content myself since I no longer connect my monitor directly to the server.

I have nonetheless been looking at getting an external playback device for the TV downstairs in the living room so my parents can watch content that I've collected - it's just a question of how I get the data down there on an 'on-demand' basis. In practice this may well mean trunking a cable to the staircase unless the wireless signal down there is very good. Then of course there's the hurdle of the TV being quite old, so it only has VGA, no HDMI.

I understand, now mostly what you just wrote I pretty much follow the basics, now if I wanted to get into the way you do these things that would be way over my head, and if I sent this post you just wrote to my friends or neighbors they would call me and say what the hell is this guy talking about lol, I slowly pick up these kinds of things threw reading, trial and error and mostly listening to you guys, I'll never understand most of what you people here know but that does not bother me anymore, I have picked up more from people like my friend Russ and you people here than I ever would have dreamed of, I'm not fully satisfied yet I still have plenty to learned but mostly I am very satisfied. Amongst you guys I'm still a dummy, in my neighborhood they think I'm a PC King LOL.
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Steve, you probably were ripping a movie, that wasn't in your current Anydvd local database(very new movie, very new protection). No software is intelligent enough, to adapt on the fly, without internet :p



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Steve, you probably were ripping a movie, that wasn't in your current Anydvd local database(very new movie, very new protection). No software is intelligent enough, to adapt on the fly, without internet :p
Kev is right, anydvd updates almost come daily because of new crap that gets thrown at us all the time so of course you do need the internet other than cinavia of course, so far even the techs at slysoft can't defeat and they are known as the best.
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Mr. Movies_That isn't actually true as just the other day I didn't have my computer linked to the internet and Anydvd wasn't able to rip my movie sating it couldn't rip the disc until I connected to the internet and all was fine then.

OK, Steve I really can't argue much when it comes to computers with you because your knowledge on PC's is way over mine, here is what I just did, I disconnected my Ethernet cable so now do not have any Internet access, I went over and got one of my store bought DVD movies, started the process with clone and anydvd to make a copy, all went thru with no problem, I made a tempo copy on a DVD_RW just to see how things worked, all went well, and of course to get updates you do need to be on the Internet, I use to make copies when I was in England using my nieces laptop using clone and anydvd and she had no Internet, so now were do we go from here lol.
That would be true but if it's a newer movie Anydvd may come up with a disc read error. I don't get this with everything but have seen it more often on new releases. I do have the auto update off so it isn't that but most likely it's a new encryption or some kind of structural difference that Anydvd hasn't addressed. I do have a corrupted driver on my main machine which can cause problems with just about anything I do as I get a BSOD from time-to-time but that wasn't it since I tried it on my lappy and had the same issue. I haven't dug into the real problem since I'm getting ready to go to Fort Myers, I just barely got my Brackets done for the NCAA64, I mean 68, Men's Basketball Tournament, I'm rebuilding my OS on my lappy for Florida and my mom's PC, I'm buying parts and building golf clubs for friends up here and for Florida friends before I leave on the 8th, and I'd like to finish a $1,200.00 set of tower speakers plus one of my family room windows that I'm totally rebuilding. Not that I'm busy though.... LOL

Yes Kev is right and that is exactly what I encountered. Kevin is very good with backing up movies and is a always great help with problems...

As too Sam's CD1/CD2 argument I would say no DVD movies are not going to be 700MB's or even 800MB's as they will be around 4.3GB's each for single DVD movies.

Hopefully I won't get slaughtered by too many upsets in my brackets as Dayton & Harvard has already cost me some.

It's great having you join the thread more Fred hope all is well for you and your family and always best wishes of course!!
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I came to this site as an arrogant, clueless, slobbering idiot. If I can be taught to think about things a little bit, maybe others can learn a few things as well. Don't feel like being less experienced or knowledgeable invalidates you from the conversation :P
So what has changed? LOL Just kidding as you are an extreme asset here!
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Update on the new Monitor guys the Asus IPS 27"PB278Q is great still playing with the color adjustment but the res/color/detail is just amazing , I'm glad i spend the extra dollars and got the 2560 x 1440 resolution, it just didn't make sense to go with a 1920x1080 27" after having a 24" 1920x1200 but all is good and having a 27" screen is great, thanks for all the advice, sig updated




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ASUS monitors are great and going with higher res you can't beat it, smart move...
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I am tempted but damn they are still pretty expensive and I'd REALLY want to have a second video card.

Also, my ASUS monitor performs excellently for what it is. One of the newer generation TN panels that actually doesn't suck. More than adequate for my purposes. Nothing compared to the IPS panel in my 2407 but also paid less than a third the price.



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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by FredBun:
Mr. Movies_That isn't actually true as just the other day I didn't have my computer linked to the internet and Anydvd wasn't able to rip my movie sating it couldn't rip the disc until I connected to the internet and all was fine then.

OK, Steve I really can't argue much when it comes to computers with you because your knowledge on PC's is way over mine, here is what I just did, I disconnected my Ethernet cable so now do not have any Internet access, I went over and got one of my store bought DVD movies, started the process with clone and anydvd to make a copy, all went thru with no problem, I made a tempo copy on a DVD_RW just to see how things worked, all went well, and of course to get updates you do need to be on the Internet, I use to make copies when I was in England using my nieces laptop using clone and anydvd and she had no Internet, so now were do we go from here lol.
That would be true but if it's a newer movie Anydvd may come up with a disc read error. I don't get this with everything but have seen it more often on new releases. I do have the auto update off so it isn't that but most likely it's a new encryption or some kind of structural difference that Anydvd hasn't addressed. I do have a corrupted driver on my main machine which can cause problems with just about anything I do as I get a BSOD from time-to-time but that wasn't it since I tried it on my lappy and had the same issue. I haven't dug into the real problem since I'm getting ready to go to Fort Myers, I just barely got my Brackets done for the NCAA64, I mean 68, Men's Basketball Tournament, I'm rebuilding my OS on my lappy for Florida and my mom's PC, I'm buying parts and building golf clubs for friends up here and for Florida friends before I leave on the 8th, and I'd like to finish a $1,200.00 set of tower speakers plus one of my family room windows that I'm totally rebuilding. Not that I'm busy though.... LOL

Yes Kev is right and that is exactly what I encountered. Kevin is very good with backing up movies and is a always great help with problems...

As too Sam's CD1/CD2 argument I would say no DVD movies are not going to be 700MB's or even 800MB's as they will be around 4.3GB's each for single DVD movies.

Hopefully I won't get slaughtered by too many upsets in my brackets as Dayton & Harvard has already cost me some.

It's great having you join the thread more Fred hope all is well for you and your family and always best wishes of course!!
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Damn Steve no one can say your sitting around on your arse as they would say in the U.K. LOL, good for you in keeping yourself that busy, wish I could do the same but my bones are wearing down but I still keep pushing best I can, and Steve I'm always here, I read what you guys have to say every time a new post gets written, I never say much what in the hell am I gonna teach you guys lol, nothing I can think of besides asking for advise once in a while, and yes we are all well, the Misses and I of course are getting older and the kids are still a pain in the a#s but still love them.
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
Update on the new Monitor guys the Asus IPS 27"PB278Q is great still playing with the color adjustment but the res/color/detail is just amazing , I'm glad i spend the extra dollars and got the 2560 x 1440 resolution, it just didn't make sense to go with a 1920x1080 27" after having a 24" 1920x1200 but all is good and having a 27" screen is great, thanks for all the advice, sig updated

A friend of mine at his computer shop near me has one, it took him a little time to get the adjustments right but after he did this monitor is awesome, wish it was not so pricey. Good luck with it.
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
As too Sam's CD1/CD2 argument I would say no DVD movies are not going to be 700MB's or even 800MB's as they will be around 4.3GB's each for single DVD movies.

This only applies to encoded DVDs done the same way as HD video - converted into usually DivX, XviD or similar format, and dropping the resolution accordingly. If you're doing it properly and keeping the full resolution you'd need 1.2-2GB or so, but still no need to keep it at the whole 4+GB size, other than to preserve the extras without having to go through the effort of encoding them.



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I wouldn't compress any movie more then it already is unless I absolutely had too, especially DVD's. So the no need argument doesn't work for me as I want the best output possible, and yes I can see the difference. I'm a high fidelity person all the way and overly compressing music or video doesn't meet my standards, in fact when I want to enjoy music you won't see me playing MP3 music as it can sound horrible on my system.
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Would have to agree with Movies there. Highest fidelity possible when possible. The differences between a proper DVD and a rip, even a good rip, are pretty immediate. Blu Ray I have yet to see a rip that approaches the original copy in quality. Maybe a few very good rips, but nothing compared to playing the actual media in my PS3.

Music on the other hand is a bit easier to do. I have tons and tons of lossless music. Mostly in FLAC or APE format. As long as it's above ~1000kbps there not much difference to a physical CD from the store. 64k and 128k MP3s are dire though and I try to avoid them, though sometimes it's unavoidable for some material that simply isn't available in a better bitrate. Also have some 192 which is a little better but still very lossy. 320kbps is the lowest I would listen to in an ideal world. The lowest my lossless music goes is about 750kbps for some albums. Not ideal, but still high enough bitrate for me.

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I wouldn't compress any movie more then it already is unless I absolutely had too, especially DVD's. So the no need argument doesn't work for me as I want the best output possible, and yes I can see the difference. I'm a high fidelity person all the way and overly compressing music or video doesn't meet my standards, in fact when I want to enjoy music you won't see me playing MP3 music as it can sound horrible on my system.
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Which I use, however if BD50's were cheaper I most certainly would not be using Rebuilder often.

I can notice more difference in my music if it is compressed in any manner more so then with movies however I am impressed with WMA Pro CBR 440kbit/s as it seems to be the best way to compress music right now. It doesn't sound as good as a CD/DVD-M but it is pretty close. I don't see the point in FLAC unless you want to compress a whole CD into one file otherwise it just isn't compatible enough for my needs and is no better then high quality MP3's which is more common, WMA beats both of them. I like Lossless but it truly isn't what they call it and Pro is better.

If you guys want probably the best mobile music player out there check out Neutron Music Player as it is a 64bit profession player and nearly meets the quality of my professional gear at home. It is definitively super high-end!!! I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 and totally love it, I don't think it would work on that s2 you have Jeff. LOL :D
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I can notice more difference in my music if it is compressed in any manner more so then with movies however I am impressed with WMA Pro CBR 440kbit/s as it seems to be the best way to compress music right now. It doesn't sound as good as a CD/DVD-M but it is pretty close. I don't see the point in FLAC unless you want to compress a whole CD into one file otherwise it just isn't compatible enough for my needs and is no better then high quality MP3's which is more common, WMA beats both of them. I like Lossless but it truly isn't what they call it and Pro is better.

I have yet to find an ideal or space efficient solution so am always open to new ideas :) I will admit I have "alternatively obtained" music so I am limited to what's available sometimes. A lot of the good 1000+kbps FLAC could stand to lose some weight if the quality could be retained.

A good chunk of my collection is lossless 1400kbps rips though so I have a good base to work from.

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If you guys want probably the best mobile music player out there check out Neutron Music Player as it is a 64bit profession player and nearly meets the quality of my professional gear at home. It is definitively super high-end!!! I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 and totally love it, I don't think it would work on that s2 you have Jeff. LOL :D

Installs and runs just fine on my S2. It does have really nice audio quality and good features. Thanks for the reference! Currently comparing to Winamp mobile, which is also quite good and well-featured.

Samsung overbuild their phones compared to the competition in my experience. It took the iPhone forever to catch up to the original Galaxy S. I believe the iPhone 4S finally surpassed the Galaxy S1 in power and features. The S2 is roughly double the speed. 1GHz single core vs 1.2GHz dual care, 512MB RAM vs 1GB RAM. Same graphics chip, but almost twice the clock plus better sharing with the main RAM. Have used an S1 and they are decent but can be laggy at times. My theory is that they just don't have enough RAM. At absolute idle my S2 uses about 300MB of its 1GB of RAM. The S1 is using roughly the same amount out of 512MB. Perfectly smooth for basic apps and the browser, but gets laggy if you do so much as enable a live wallpaper with graphical effects. Not ideal, but the S1 can be made to do some amazing things with its resources.

Apple had a crap system where the next generation was always absolutely superior and rendered the previous hardware useless. Samsung have grouped their upgrades closer together, so their older hardware seems to last much longer as far as app compatibility goes. I can run most things any S4 can. The only limit is true hardware features and certain games that need more horsepower. The S2 was blessed with great features, so it has fairly up-to-date capabilities. Also consider my 800 x 480 screen allows me some breathing room in games and apps, as it doesn't render the 720p of the S3 or the 1080p of the S4. In my personal experience the difference in sharpness from the S2 to the S3 is quite pleasant, but the difference between the S3 and S4 is much harder to tell, and more of a bonus than a major upgrade.

I wouldn't mind a fully featured S3 or an S4 like my current female interest uses, but the S2 was the sweet spot of the series, and has enough hardware capability to punch well above its weight. A 1GHz+ dual core and 1GB of RAM in a mobile device such as this is plenty.

I know you're just poking fun, but these tiny computers fascinate the crap out of me. Especially the Galaxy S2, S4, iPhone 4S and 5S are the pinnacle of their kind. I am very impressed by what these handheld devices are capable of. IMO Android allows for much more than iOS does, even given the much stronger Apple app market. That doesn't stop the iPhones from having impressive hardware specs though.



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Jeff, Lossless is real good for compressed music and you can save space with 440Pro by using VBR if that is your need, CBR creates a larger file size since it is holding the space used at the same level always as I'm sure you know. I don't have tons of space either but I'm for high fidelity, grew up that way, so best quality possible is the way to go for me. In fact like you I have some compressed music from others that I can't even listen to when I'm seriously trying to enjoy the music, not using it for background fill. I do buy discs still and back them up which takes space but I do have a place were I can store that kind of stuff and it is dark and cool, perfect for storage like this. I also use backup HDD's to store on in disc's image & compressed modes, plus 2.5 in. HDD's to travel with and play off of. This way I cover most issues and should be safe unless I have a fire since I don't have a copy at a remote location.

I thought you may like Neutron, glad to hear that....

I was pulling your leg on the S2 as i know and agree with you that an S2 is basically as good as an S4, Samsung is the way to go over the popular iPhone.

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Well, thought I'd treat myself to a new keyboard to celebrate my birthday. The Saitek Eclipse needs to be retired to backup duty soon. Simply getting beat up. Finally found something reasonably priced that I liked. Logitech G105. Nice looks, good build quality, nice key feel, really bright LED backlighting. One problem. It doesn't work. Certain keys type strings of random gobbledygook or extra letters. Tried on several different PCs. A little research shows this to be a hardware failure in the keyboard itself...

Closer inspection shows the package was previously opened, which indicates it was probably returned with that issue, then placed back on the shelf. Really should have grabbed the one behind it.

I wanted to have something nice. Eff me, right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126327

Is really a nice and solidly built product. Back to the store tomorrow for an exchange. Really like the keyboard, but wish it worked. Soured an otherwise happy buy. It's the first keyboard since my long dead Eclipse II that's really caught my eye.

My $35 Saitek Eclipse has lasted for 5+ years relatively issue-free. I would hope this $50 keyboard would last at least as long. Have had excellent luck with other Logitech peripherals. Particularly their mice. On my second MX518 and still going strong. Mouse feet worn right off, paint and rubber grip material worn off in spots, but still functions perfectly. Just keep it clean. Super comfortable mouse. I couldn't imagine using a non Logitech mouse anymore, and I've used plenty of Razer and Steelseries mice. The Microsoft/Razer Habu was a close comparison. Excellent tactile feedback when clicking and wonderful ergonomics for my large hands. Poor build quality though. Broken click switch after about 4 or 5 months. I will admit that I'm not particularly easy on my peripherals. They are tools to me.



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If they are tools you should take even better care of them truly. I won't buy Logitech keyboards myself they have not performed well for me and caused weird problems due to compatibility issues with other devices.
 
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