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Shy Channels on sat with dreambox 500s
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foresttod
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14. October 2009 @ 12:55 |
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hi mooley, does that mean if I point my sky dish ealsewhere it's pointless, and that sky and free is all my dish can pick up?
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foresttod
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14. October 2009 @ 12:58 |
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hi mooley
So my sky dish will only pick up sky and free, even if I point it somewhere ealse?
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14. October 2009 @ 13:37 |
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If your looking to pick up anything other than sky then in my opinion it's a 1m motorised dish and some type of patchable box.
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sitja
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14. October 2009 @ 13:44 |
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would a dreambox s do as a patchable box mooley?
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14. October 2009 @ 14:06 |
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Dreambox should be fine. There are some images out there I believe that clear some packages. I don't have experience with dreambox for satellite myself though. If your going to go down the motorised dish route though there are some much better boxes out there that clear a hell of a lot ;)
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sitja
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14. October 2009 @ 14:13 |
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like which ones very new to this info and stuff so exploring and trying to learn as much as possible. if i got 1m motorised dish is there any certain type of attributes or properties i have to consider or should they be capable of working together?
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14. October 2009 @ 14:19 |
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Originally posted by sitja:
like which ones very new to this info and stuff so exploring and trying to learn as much as possible. if i got 1m motorised dish is there any certain type of attributes or properties i have to consider or should they be capable of working together?
I don't really understand the question there, "attibutes or properties"??
Have a google for technomate or Protek/nanoxx 9600 ip.
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sitja
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14. October 2009 @ 14:22 |
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maybe wrong context... as in should they work together be compatible or do i need a certain dish, motor, lnb for that box.
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14. October 2009 @ 14:23 |
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Should be all compatible with each other as far as I'm aware.
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sitja
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14. October 2009 @ 14:29 |
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good to here, thanks for advice man.
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14. October 2009 @ 14:32 |
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No worries mate best of luck whatever choice you make!
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18. October 2009 @ 06:27 |
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Hey anyone in northside Dublin who could help with setting this up?
gotta keep on rollin :)
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18. October 2009 @ 06:51 |
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Sky Italia is down on cs, sky uk when the card change is finished will go the same guys.
never ever pay for cs, your dealing with criminals & the sc*m of the earth - remember that if you go that route.
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18. October 2009 @ 07:01 |
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Hey anyone in northside Dublin who could help with setting this up? few quid in it for your time..
thanks in advance!!
gotta keep on rollin :)
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bdale2
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18. October 2009 @ 07:08 |
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what do u need to know. what box do u have etc
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3r1c
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18. October 2009 @ 18:45 |
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Originally posted by mancred:
Sky Italia is down on cs, sky uk when the card change is finished will go the same guys.
never ever pay for cs, your dealing with criminals & the sc*m of the earth - remember that if you go that route.
Sky Italia is down due to an ECM.
They changed the packet sizes, made it break some CAM's.
It has nothing to do with new cards, and is already fixed on some boxes.
Its just a software change where they found something to disrupt the boxes programming, its fixable very easy once you see whats happening.
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printer43
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23. October 2009 @ 14:49 |
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Originally posted by ripblade:
Originally posted by mellio:
there is a site in ireland that is offering a full sat and reciver + install for 450 eur.
states that it receives hotbird astra1 and 2.
it mentions that there is no monthly fee again.
will this receive all sports,movies music and kids
channels from s*y.
what are the benefits of monthly fee card sharing v this option?
mellio can you PM me thesite please. thanks inadvance
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23. October 2009 @ 14:54 |
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Originally posted by 3r1c:
Originally posted by mancred:
Sky Italia is down on cs, sky uk when the card change is finished will go the same guys.
never ever pay for cs, your dealing with criminals & the sc*m of the earth - remember that if you go that route.
Sky Italia is down due to an ECM.
They changed the packet sizes, made it break some CAM's.
It has nothing to do with new cards, and is already fixed on some boxes.
Its just a software change where they found something to disrupt the boxes programming, its fixable very easy once you see whats happening.
Em... still not fixed though now is it??
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rooney123
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26. October 2009 @ 07:13 |
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Hi lads could anyone send some info on cardshare..Ii have dream 5000s and the rest thats needed so i am looking for some to share card with me im in Dublin..Thanks
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26. October 2009 @ 19:42 |
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Rooney123 I have a 500s and i am looking for someone to help setup, i'm on the southside dublin, if any body available, i could call to them, i have a pain in my prunes trying to setup. is a cline, a connection to eircom or what?
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26. October 2009 @ 20:04 |
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Originally posted by Hubabuba:
Rooney123 I have a 500s and i am looking for someone to help setup, i'm on the southside dublin, if any body available, i could call to them, i have a pain in my prunes trying to setup. is a cline, a connection to eircom or what?
A cline or C:line basicaly are your login details to a CS server,...they look something like this...
C: mycardsharingserver.com username password
it's quite a big learning curve & asking somebody to set you up is not going to help you in the long run when you need to improve & adjust your settings,..don't try to take short cuts,..if your going to get involved in it roll your sleeves up & start googleing,..afterdawn is not a forum where you'll find all the information you need.
start here.. credit to OP for the tut below
Q. What is cardsharing?
Hopefully this thread will help complete beginners to understand more.
Cardsharing, card shares, 'sharing' and 'CS' are commonly used to describe the method of using a smartcard (or cards) over a network. In practical terms an original legitimate subscription card could be used in a receiver; then another box that is in another room, or even a thousand miles away, could access the smartcard via 'local network' or 'internet' to clear channels that the subscription card allows.
So no sharing needs to be involved, its purely access to a remote card that isnt actually plugged into your own card slot, that we refer to with the phrase 'cardshare'.
This method has existed for many years and not new, even though the majority of people have not heard of it. Talk of 'sharing' is banned on many forums and a taboo subject due to its obvious possible illegal uses.
Cardshare or card-over-network is not illegal per se, but it is the use of the method that can be against Uk and international law and generally everyone in the Uk wants to ask "so how do i get free sky?" which is just direct illegal discussion that could lead to the closure of any Uk forum. Teaching someone directly how to 'steal' is also a prosecutable offence, so posts are often removed for safety of the helpful members too.
##Lets make this clear, cardsharing has nothing to do with Sky branded equipment whatsoever, but yes the method does work with Uk smartcards so we cannot condone anyone wishing to use cardshare information to commit crime##
Q. So what do I need?
Firstly you need equipment that is networkable, such as Dreambox and similar linux based satellite products. These receivers have ethernet connection in the same way as computers do, and have ability to use developed software to send and receive information.
Over the years of development many versions of software have evolved and names such as Newcs, Cccam, Mgcamd, Gbox, Newcamd and others have gained popularity due to their ability to network-share. Legal practical use has allowed the subject to expand and even top brand names like PACE, Amstrad, etc, now use the idea to develop new hardware for the future. Legal benefit to networking is you are able to pay for an encrypted package and then watch with a receiver of your choice in your own home and no longer need to keep taking the card in and out and forgetting where it is etc, or use a favourite machine that doesnt have a supported cam/cardslot. 'Grey area' use also includes using over the internet too, because if you PAY for subscription and then watch a channel in your holiday home whilst your card remains at home, how can you be committing a crime? Its not piracy or theft because you are legally paying for the privilege to watch.
Q. How does it work?
For receivers to communicate over a network they need to be configured. Firstly a box needs to know where the card will be located. This hardware holding the card is known as the 'server' or 'cardserver' or 'host' and relates to whatever equipment physically hosts the smartcard. Other receivers without the smartcard directly inserted are known as the 'clients'.
Standard computer based IP address format is used for real-world location, which acts like telephone numbers for internet connectivity in the same way our pc's work all over the world. So 1 box knows where another is by direct IP number etc.
Each of the software cams mentioned (Gbox, Cccam, Newcamd etc) use 'protocol' or language that is specific to that product. Some cams are able to 'talk' to others, but this can be limited so usually each receiver will keep the same software cam. However, this part is where different development has taken place to give wider suitability and capability.
Eg. As example we will use 'Newcs' as the card server on a machine we'll call 'North'. So a machine running this software hosts an original subscription card. Now Newcs 'talks' in newcamd protocol, meaning it can communicate with other receivers with software speaking the same digital language.
1 satellite receiver we'll call 'East' uses Mgcamd as its soft-cam. This receiver will be set as a 'client' and does not have a card.
Another satellite receiver we'll call 'South' uses Cccam as its soft-cam This receiver will also be configured as a client to 'North'.
A 4th receiver we'll call 'West' and this also uses Cccam and is configured as a client to 'North'.
>>So this example is nice and simple, all 4 satellite receivers would be able to view channels that the subscription card in receiver 'North' allows. Mgcamd and Cccam are both popular and both able to communicate with Newcs so all is well.
This is the point 'shares' can become more complex and the 'sharing' description more relevant. What happens if South has a different subscription card in its slot that would be good to allow the other receivers to access? Well this means that South will be a Server as well as a client. Using the same soft-cam makes things very easy, it is a simple process to add a line of numbers into West to make it a client, and add a line of numbers into South so that allows West the access. At this point in the example, the result would be that North and East only clear Card1 channels, but both South and West equipment clears Card1 channels and Card2 channels too.
There are options for North & East, its not as complicated as it seems, its just a process of configuring each receiver again and all being on a protocol that each box understands, but sometimes trying to imagine 50 or 100 receivers is a harder task. The point to make is that the method is the same and its not really relevant how complicated it can get, cardsharing is all about the possibilities.
Finally, modern cardsharing can be about paying for access to a share, or splitting costs of a subscription between friends etc. This is where the line is crossed and something legal becomes a criminal offence. Discussion of the technique on this forum allows us understanding and allows progress with multi-card & multi-client development but you will not find details of commercial servers here. If you want to break the law just to get free or cheap access to Uk Tv channels then you need your favorite search engine to help you. Additionally you should always be aware of scammers who abuse the private message function of forums to find new and gullible clients.
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27. October 2009 @ 04:30 |
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Thanks Lenny I understand it a bit better, but i have been reading all the treads and unless you know a bit about setting it up you can get lost, again many thanks.
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27. October 2009 @ 05:34 |
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Originally posted by Hubabuba:
Thanks Lenny I understand it a bit better, but i have been reading all the treads and unless you know a bit about setting it up you can get lost, again many thanks.
I can get lost can I ?,...very nice,.what part of my reply upset you,..the red text maybe ?.
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27. October 2009 @ 06:03 |
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lol @ lenny
re-read his post, he is not tellin ya to get get lost mate, he is just is just saying unless ya know a bit ya can get lost! lol
Great post Lenny as per usual. Now whether peeps actually read it is another matter!
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27. October 2009 @ 06:35 |
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Originally posted by MICKAH:
lol @ lenny
re-read his post, he is not tellin ya to get get lost mate, he is just is just saying unless ya know a bit ya can get lost! lol
Great post Lenny as per usual. Now whether peeps actually read it is another matter!
FFS ! your right MICKAH,..appoliges to Rooney123 also, but as you will know the dreambox/linux boxes are a bit more tricky to set up & there is realy no way one can impart all the knowledge required over a post by post thread, for someone with no prior knowledge there is a big learning curve involved regarding networking,ip address, C:lines, F:lines, images,bootloaders,ftp but once learned it will all become easy.
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