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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.
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siber
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11. July 2004 @ 18:34 |
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You haven't forgotten S-Y-K-E-S, have you? No, obviously, I am looking forward to reading more of these constructive exchanges between you guys. I am also looking forward to trying out this vaunted new program update by Dr. Shrink...
I happen to learn a lot, just lurking... After having to leave my 'puter for a couple of days - I'm still commuting between my old home in NC and my new one in SC - it was just quite an experience to read all the posts of the weekend bunched together... Actually, I'm not finished reading all of them.
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11. July 2004 @ 18:42 |
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No problem bigo, I think that you're justifiably miffed, you were condescended too by someone who dosen't really know who you are. Some things said were mean and unfair. But there's also a quality to ddloopings thinking. When he's busy focusing on what he's doing and not what we were or are doing, his thoughts are organized. He's very task oriented. How many of us met in a conflict only to become friends? ddlooping, be nice and hang with us.:)
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11. July 2004 @ 18:52 |
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WOW!!! Interesting read :) It's great you all can work things out.
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ddlooping is no "S-Y-K-E-S
Sophocles,
I think that's one of the nicest compliments one can give :-)
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11. July 2004 @ 19:05 |
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flip- only because those same five letters could be the biggest insult ever flung.
BTW, watched theatrical version, nicer ending, not necessarily better.
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11. July 2004 @ 19:32 |
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Flip and bigo, you're both right! In a kind of opposite and completely different way. (now look who's not making sense?}
ddlooping is new here and he assumed too much authority when he first joined us but he's also the kind of fresh blood that AD needs. We weren't plugged into the beta testing of DVD Shrink but he was, and he's plugged into to all the news about it, and so will we be if we include him in our little experiment.
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11. July 2004 @ 19:51 |
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The bear lurketh back. Lurketh...could that be a word? Sounded good anyway.
I'm about to shake the apple cart here and get everybody after a new bear rug. DVDCopy2 can be a poor choice for video recording. Don't everyone rush me at once and I'll explain.
Recording a lot of recent acquisitions, I had excellent success with DVDCopy2. With LOTR, ROTK I couldn't ask for better results and it was a hands down winner over the other programs I tested; Recode2, DVDShrink, and DVD2One, and DVDXCopy.
However, I have found that for older movies Copy2 is a poor choice. The fact that Copy2 enhances the cinematography is its downfall. Not only does it enhance a good quality movie, it enhances the faults inherent in older movies. The older movies have poorer digital quality and in some cases are no more than digitized copies of the original film. It is those poorer quality images that get enhanced and end up looking worse.
Legend of the Lost (Sophia Loren and John Wayne) is a case study. With Copy2 faults were enhanced and the movie didn't look good at all. Looked like pumping and film flaws enhanced. With Recode2, the flaws were much less evident and the picture was actually a pleasure to watch. So in this case the so called lesser quality Recode2 and Shrink turn out to be a better choice. Didn't keep XCopy in the mix so can't judge it on this film. Though it has done good with other older movies.
Through experience with various software programs, one starts to learn their weaknesses and strengths. It comes back to something I said before. Proper use of a program for the job it does best. Sort of an apples and oranges situation when you use Copy2 for an old movie as opposed to a new high quality disc.
Now that its explained, I don't think anyone can get too hot. The results I state are easily verifiable by anyone who wishes to make a similar comparison.
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11. July 2004 @ 20:54 |
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brobear, you just wanted to see sophia's ta-ta's better. don't blame ya there.
Sophocles, I never not wanted dd here, he IS a member, so he's been around a while. No doubt he knows his sheeat.
DDlooping, just thought of something in Pinnacle's IC8. Some are having problems with it's finished size being too small, I believe you mentioned this.
You can correct this by: just before your last step to analyze, burn, etc. grab the slider on compression, move it til your line turns red, then back off a couple of points. This will give you a larger file on your disc and still not exceed the 4.37 limit.
You can also change compression individually, but I seem to remember you want movie only so that would be irrelevant to you.
See ya!
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11. July 2004 @ 21:43 |
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I'm a CCE addict I do it all the slow way but my wife wants me to make her a backups every now (she has her own DVD budget) and then so I use DVDcopy2. Quick and painless and almost always satisfies. You know that software they sell here on AD, Movie Collector? Bought it. Now ask me if I need it?
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11. July 2004 @ 21:47 |
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Oh hell, what does it do?
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brobear
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11. July 2004 @ 21:55 |
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I was talking about a movie here, and accidentally made a mistake. But Sophia was a great actress.
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brobear
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11. July 2004 @ 22:03 |
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and I made a post in error here.
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11. July 2004 @ 22:08 |
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My first serious romance looked just like her, I was 18.(sigh) BTW, she dumped me after 2 years, took a long time to get over that one!(sigh) Still have a pic of her, my wife hates it.(sigh)Wonder what she's doin' now?
I have bought VHS of old movies cos they're not on DVD, and converted them to DVD. The quality actually seemed better but still, a lot worse than what we're use to. So I know all about that path. Been there done that, as they say. Still, it's nice to be able to have it on DVD, when it's not offered anywhere.
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brobear
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11. July 2004 @ 22:11 |
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I don't think I'll go there bigO, I'll tell that story over a good mug at the tavern.
There's a beer in my tear...
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11. July 2004 @ 22:15 |
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Make it a Jack Daniels whiskey sour, and you're on. The cats/vols game perhaps?
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brobear
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11. July 2004 @ 22:17 |
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Good choice, do they make an orange and blue cap. Get set an root for both sides.
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11. July 2004 @ 22:19 |
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UUgghhh! That's those damn gators' colors, just bring 2 caps.
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brobear
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11. July 2004 @ 22:22 |
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I thought they were green and yellow. I'll just root for the home team.
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12. July 2004 @ 03:16 |
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Sophocles,
I have been using Movietrack to keep track of my movies. I also have the Movie Collector demo for research. Movietrack is fast and free but Collector is a better program.
Do you like Movie Collector?
Donald
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ddlooping
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12. July 2004 @ 05:16 |
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ddlooping, you're not gonna tell me DVDCopy 2 sucks, are ya?
Maybe you missed the post where I mentionned the transcoders I tried.
- DVDCopy2: I must admit I only tried it once.
Its output was mediocre on the DVD I tested it with.
It might be better with others though, but I'd rather trust v3.1.7 as its quality is much more predictable (when good or bad).
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Yeah, let's include it, only I gotta feeling that someone else needs to send in the sample. heh heh heh
heh heh heh indeed. ;)
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On 2nd thought forget it, when you got guys over there saying shrink outshines CCE, well, you see what I mean?
My guess is you're refering to some DVD Shrink users who think DVD Shrink v3.1.7 gives equal or more satisfying results at low levels of compression (<20% or thereabout)than CCE.
If that's the case, you can include me in that small group.
As I previously said, I use DVD2DVD-R/CCE for backups requiring 20-25% compression or more (depending on the original DVD).
It was in the same post you might have missed.
That's when I cursed at Pinnacle for a short while, and decided to stick to DVD2DVD-R for backups requiring more than 20-25% compression.
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12. July 2004 @ 09:57 |
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Since this seems to becoming a quotefest, here goes:
"My guess is you're refering to some DVD Shrink users who think DVD Shrink v3.1.7 gives equal or more satisfying results at low levels of compression (<20% or thereabout)than CCE.
If that's the case, you can include me in that small group.
Well, that is NOT the case. Absolutely nothing was said about LOW levels of compression, but even if I conceded that point (which I don't) the "more satisfying" still doesn't hold water, unless by more satifying you mean less time to do the project, then I will agree. As far as quality CCE does a better job, period. The results may be minimal at low compression, on that I agree also. I too, only use it for longer movies, only because of time constraints. But, that wasn't what was said and no way, no how, is any app "better", at low or high levels of compression when it comes to pic quality.
You yourself admit to using CCE in conjunction with dvd2dvdr, I use DVD2DVD-R/CCE for backups requiring 20-25% compression or more (depending on the original DVD).so you must agree somewhat.
I like menus and some extras so I use Rebuilder/CCE, thus the reason I don't use dvd2dvdr. I have used the program, and it's results were excellent, unfortunately it was movie only.
Either way you're still using CCE. So defend your fellow D.V. members if you must, but......
BTW, have a nice day ;)
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ddlooping
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12. July 2004 @ 09:59 |
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Ok, I give up. ;)
P.S: thanks, have a nice day too. :)
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ddlooping
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12. July 2004 @ 10:17 |
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12. July 2004 @ 10:25 |
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Does that mean I can update my old version or is it an upgrade?
do we have time to redo all tests? lol
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ddlooping
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12. July 2004 @ 10:27 |
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I don't know, bigorange.
I've just downloaded the trial version and giving the new compression options a twirl. ;)
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ddlooping
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12. July 2004 @ 10:31 |
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