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ddlooping
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24. July 2004 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So if I understand correctly, you want a "menus+movie+extras" backup, while removing the multi-angle feature.
Or is it a "menus+movie" backup?




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24. July 2004 @ 09:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, for my 14 YO, he wants everything on the disc. In this case he will have to do without the special effects angles in the movie ... which are scenes that show things from different camera perspectives.


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Sophocles...the files are now in RB-CCE, but I'm wondering if what I did was all there was to it. It seems all too simple right now.

I'm curious, have you done any RMP tasks yet that require you to write or modify commmands/instructions yet?


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24. July 2004 @ 09:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the clarification, Doc409. :)

If I can make a suggestion, maybe you guys should start a new thread about the subject.

I don't see any point in keeping this one alive when we've been off-topic for so long.
A new thread would also be easier to find for others interested in the removal of multi-angles features.




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ddlooping

Just what brobear said. we use a tool called DVDremake to strip away multi angles so that the file can then be fed through DVD-RB. DVD-RB is a great application but it doesn't have support for multi angles/interleaves.

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ddlooping...
Since you pointed it out, it does seem off topic. There are several threads going right now that all have a central theme regarding transcoders, and being somewhat senile in my old age, it was easy to get them all mixed together.
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Edit. I also understand how the topic of this thread is of particular importance to you. The title of the thread pretty much defined what subset in the universe would be responding ... and that would be those with experience with several different transcoders. And, I think this group is fairly limited right now.

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I tried for a while to keep the thread on topic but the thread has a life of its own. I even asked a moderator to cancel it, which he did for about a day and then he restored it. There is a thread that is dedicated to DVDremake/DVD-RB/CCE but has sort of become an extension of this one. When Vurbal completes his guide then we will probably start a new thread. Hopefully we won't muddy the waters in it so that it can serve as a guide to new users.

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Thanks for the replies, guys. ;)




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Hey dd ... back on topic.

With regard to posting/getting you the Ben Hur clips, I have decided to try the WinDVD 6 trial. I have a lot going this weekend, so it may be Monday before I can get it all figured out.
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I also tested the three new compression settings (on LOTR-ROTK / a ratio of about 62% if I remember correctly), but found them all to be noticeably inferior to DVD2One own Variable setting.
Any theory as to why this could be?


The Ben Hur (c.1959) backup was 4.36 GB compared to the 12.4 original. As to any theories about any settings, I don't know enough yet to give an informed opinion. The one thing about older movies, though, is that they have an inherent "grainy" appearance from the get-go. I'm thinking that some engines deal with this differently than others. (COPYDVD2 was horrible). Also, smaller artifacts may be more difficult to spot, especially in action scenes.

I suspect that artifacts will begin to show at some level of magnification. I didn't see them on my 17 inch monitor at 1724 X 768, or on a regular TV set. I believe the real achievement, though, was shown in the 10 minute chariot race where everything was moving. As an example, the camera truck, which was pacing with the chariots, showed the horses galloping left to right, while at the same time the background was moving right to left. There were times when nothing on the screen was stationary ... and there wasn't any freezing or macroblocking. Given my own experience with transcoders, I consider this to be an achievement.

I am now curious as to how DVD2One 1.5 will handle a newer movie. As time permits, I'll try one. The hopper is a little full right now.


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24. July 2004 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the feedback, Doc 409. :)






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24. July 2004 @ 13:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The title says Transcoding tools. That doesn't limit the discussion to transcoders. Editing tools as they apply to transcoding are part of tools, as well as decrypters and burners. As long as the discussion follows these lines, they may go off on a tangent, but they are not off subject.

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Good point. ;)




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brobear

A very solid point, and one that perhaps I've forgotten over the near 2 months its been running. I see you're in the lurking phase again. Just sort of popping in and out.

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double "d"

Since you already have CCE it wouldn't be much of stretch for you to join us, someone with your insight and experience have a lot to offer. And DVD-RB is free.

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brobear, since soph seems to be experimenting with sigs, I thought I would leave this one as that's where I'll be for the next 2 days. Hopefully a couple of 24"-30" rainbows will be photographed.(i catch and release)



hey doc, how ya like IV's windvd 6? pretty nifty for test comparisons using the frame capture and 30 sec clip feature. Not to mention the magnification feature. Made to order for beta testing.


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I could go for a little freswater fly fishing myself but it's not much use in Florida. What do you mean I've been experiementing with my sig?

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Actually one of the things i have wanted to try is saltwater flyfishing, you live in a good area for that on the Gulf side where the water is calmer and more shallow.

You know what I mean about the sigs

lol


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I been trying to convine my wife that we need a boat in order to increase or rec time but she's not buying. Perhaps if I jsut stopped buying software. Hmm!

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Man, if you quit buying software you could afford a Boston Whaler! lol


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Probably.
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You know Soph, id bet a buck that alien was you.

I decided to go with the flo', although I prefer her sister!!




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brian

I knew you would eventually get a sig, although I'm little disappointed that you rejected my kangaroo.

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24. July 2004 @ 14:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alas poor skippy, we knew him well.





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24. July 2004 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
guys, this is getting ridiculous!










it is almost football fall tho....
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Not to spoil the fun, but I thought that I would pop back in here ... and report that all went well with stripping the angles with DareDevil ... then making it through RB-CCE without the #0003 ... and then doing an end burn. Thanks folks, for seeing me through this rite of passage.

I'm now on the hunt for new prey.


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